Re: xserver-xfree86 4.3.0-0ds4: System lockup on KDM logout
On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 23:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > For those out there using the PenguinPPC.org xfree86 binaries and a > Radeon VE, I have to wonder if anybody else is having problems with > system lockups when you log out of kdm. I haven't tried other display > managers to see if it effects them, but I don't see why it wouldn't. > > Anybody have any luck in fixing this? Yeah, Im seeing this too. Its a hardlock from what I can tell. I used to see this with 2.4.21-pre series kernels plus xfree86 4.2.* as well. But with 4.3 I see it with 2.4.19 as well. I also use the drm modules from the 4.3 package. Im cc-ing debian-x as people there might be able to better help. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: X leaking memory with tdfx driver (ds3v1)
On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 22:29, Daniel Stone wrote: > As for DRI, when you're using XFree86 4.3, you need either a 2.5.x > kernel, or to build the xlibmesa4-drm-src package. When I saw this thread I grabed the xlibmesa4-drm-src package and untared it and all, but I cant figure out for the life of me how to compile it and install it into my kernel. Ive read the readme in the source directory, and that is absolutely no help. Ive also gone to dri.sf.net and cant find any documentation on how to build this stuff outside the xfree86 source tree. Ive even tried copying it into the kernel source tree(because it builds alot faster than the xfree86 sources do) and the build fails(this is with 2.4.21-pre7). Any help on how to build these would be much appreciated. Thank you. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: XFree86 4.3 and radeon ve
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 06:43, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Actually, the snippet shows that he's using an up to date DRM. Is > xlibmesa4-dri installed? Yeah, that did it. I thought I had installed all the xlibmesa stuff, but I guess not. Thanks for the help. --
Re: XFree86 4.3 and radeon ve
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 06:43, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Actually, the snippet shows that he's using an up to date DRM. Is > xlibmesa4-dri installed? Yeah, that did it. I thought I had installed all the xlibmesa stuff, but I guess not. Thanks for the help. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 4.3 and radeon ve
I am using the ds XF86 4.3 debs and I am pretty happy with them. The ony grip I have is that I dont have any direct redering. glxinfo says direct rendering: No I have the dri section in my XF86Config-4 file correct and my logs say (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmGetBusid returned '' (II) RADEON(0): [drm] created "radeon" driver at busid "PCI:1:0:0" (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe2a98000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe2a98000 to 0x40012000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0xed00 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 11 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel agp heap manager, 5111808 Also any 3-D games are slow and take up all CPU power. I can only conclude that there is no hardware acceleration. I thought 4.3 was supposed to have better acceleration and everything. I would much apreciate any help in getting that acceleration. Thank you. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
XFree86 4.3 and radeon ve
I am using the ds XF86 4.3 debs and I am pretty happy with them. The ony grip I have is that I dont have any direct redering. glxinfo says direct rendering: No I have the dri section in my XF86Config-4 file correct and my logs say (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) drmGetBusid returned '' (II) RADEON(0): [drm] created "radeon" driver at busid "PCI:1:0:0" (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe2a98000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe2a98000 to 0x40012000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0xed00 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 11 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel agp heap manager, 5111808 Also any 3-D games are slow and take up all CPU power. I can only conclude that there is no hardware acceleration. I thought 4.3 was supposed to have better acceleration and everything. I would much apreciate any help in getting that acceleration. Thank you. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radeon xvideo bug
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 01:09, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > I've experienced the following problem since I first installed my Radeon > > VE card under XFree86 4.X. The bug affects the playback of any video > > using the xvideo extension. > > > > When I play any video using any video player (e.g. xine, mplayer or vlc) > > and try to minimize the application, a freeze frame of the video appears > > and blocks the part of the screen where the video was running. If the > > video is running full screen the entire screen is blocked by the frozen > > frame. This doesn't occur if I use another video output method, as > > when running "xine-V xshm movie.avi" or "mplayer -vo x11 movie.mpg". > > I can confirm this bug. > It happened here 2 months ago when I used a radeon card (now I don't). > Seems that ati driver couldn't clip xv X windows at all. Me too. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Radeon xvideo bug
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 01:09, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > I've experienced the following problem since I first installed my Radeon > > VE card under XFree86 4.X. The bug affects the playback of any video > > using the xvideo extension. > > > > When I play any video using any video player (e.g. xine, mplayer or vlc) > > and try to minimize the application, a freeze frame of the video appears > > and blocks the part of the screen where the video was running. If the > > video is running full screen the entire screen is blocked by the frozen > > frame. This doesn't occur if I use another video output method, as > > when running "xine-V xshm movie.avi" or "mplayer -vo x11 movie.mpg". > > I can confirm this bug. > It happened here 2 months ago when I used a radeon card (now I don't). > Seems that ati driver couldn't clip xv X windows at all. Me too. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer broken after upgrade - more informations
Try it without the framebuffer. If your using debconf go through and say no to Use FrameBuffer option. Other wise modify Option "UseFB" to "false" in the device section. Also what kernel are you using? and what modules are loaded? -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: gnome2 in debian unstable
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 18:19, Benjamin Hagemann wrote: > Hello List! > > I use debian unstable. Now my Gnome does not start. > I hope you can understand the probleme when you read my logs. Known problem. Downgrade bonobo-activation and gnome should return. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: XServer broken after upgrade - more informations
Try it without the framebuffer. If your using debconf go through and say no to Use FrameBuffer option. Other wise modify Option "UseFB" to "false" in the device section. Also what kernel are you using? and what modules are loaded? -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome2 in debian unstable
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 18:19, Benjamin Hagemann wrote: > Hello List! > > I use debian unstable. Now my Gnome does not start. > I hope you can understand the probleme when you read my logs. Known problem. Downgrade bonobo-activation and gnome should return. -- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-build and xfree86
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 12:37, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:22:13PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: > > You are correct, but apt-get build-dep doesn't know this. I have since > > been educated as to the source of this problem. It is in fact a bug in > > apt-get build-dep that doesn't handle OR's very well. Bugs 98640 > > 126938 131265 and 145997 are manifestations of this bug. Not even going > > in and satisfying the build-deps by hand lets apt-build build the > > package. Sorry for the static. > > Well, it didn't help that I wasn't depending on a real package to help > apt out. > > xfree86 4.2.1-4 will B-D on "kernel-headers-2.4.19-386 | > kernel-headers-2.4 | hurd | freebsd | netbsd | openbsd". This will of > course only help Linux/i386 people, but it's better than nothing. I don't think this will help the situation because I have a kernel-headers-* package already installed and it still bombs out on apt-get build-deps. And I see that it breaks auto-building on the sbuild, so I think you should probably leave it the way it was(IMHO). -Scott Henson
Re: apt-build and xfree86
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 12:37, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:22:13PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: > > You are correct, but apt-get build-dep doesn't know this. I have since > > been educated as to the source of this problem. It is in fact a bug in > > apt-get build-dep that doesn't handle OR's very well. Bugs 98640 > > 126938 131265 and 145997 are manifestations of this bug. Not even going > > in and satisfying the build-deps by hand lets apt-build build the > > package. Sorry for the static. > > Well, it didn't help that I wasn't depending on a real package to help > apt out. > > xfree86 4.2.1-4 will B-D on "kernel-headers-2.4.19-386 | > kernel-headers-2.4 | hurd | freebsd | netbsd | openbsd". This will of > course only help Linux/i386 people, but it's better than nothing. I don't think this will help the situation because I have a kernel-headers-* package already installed and it still bombs out on apt-get build-deps. And I see that it breaks auto-building on the sbuild, so I think you should probably leave it the way it was(IMHO). -Scott Henson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-build and xfree86
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 19:06, Branden Robinson wrote: > apt-get's output looks pretty suboptimal. > > Check the xfree86 source package's build dependencies by hand. > > I think you'll find that they can, in fact, all be satisfied on a Linux > box. You are correct, but apt-get build-dep doesn't know this. I have since been educated as to the source of this problem. It is in fact a bug in apt-get build-dep that doesn't handle OR's very well. Bugs 98640 126938 131265 and 145997 are manifestations of this bug. Not even going in and satisfying the build-deps by hand lets apt-build build the package. Sorry for the static. -Scott Henson
Re: apt-build and xfree86
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 19:06, Branden Robinson wrote: > apt-get's output looks pretty suboptimal. > > Check the xfree86 source package's build dependencies by hand. > > I think you'll find that they can, in fact, all be satisfied on a Linux > box. You are correct, but apt-get build-dep doesn't know this. I have since been educated as to the source of this problem. It is in fact a bug in apt-get build-dep that doesn't handle OR's very well. Bugs 98640 126938 131265 and 145997 are manifestations of this bug. Not even going in and satisfying the build-deps by hand lets apt-build build the package. Sorry for the static. -Scott Henson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-build and xfree86
Im currently trying to rebuild some stuff on my system using apt-build and its not going very well. In particular: apt-build --reinstall --rebuild install xserver-xfree86 -> Installing build dependencies (for xserver-xfree86) <- Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package hurd has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package hurd has no installation candidate E: Build-Depends dependency on xfree86 cannot be satisfied because the package freebsd cannot be found Error while installing build dependencies, stopped. and: apt-get build-dep xserver-xfree86 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package hurd has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package hurd has no installation candidate E: Build-Depends dependency on xfree86 cannot be satisfied because the package freebsd cannot be found Im thinking some dependency has been added on the Hurd and since Im using the linux kernel it cant satisfy the hurd deps. xserver-xfree86: Installed: 4.2.1-3 Candidate: 4.2.1-3 Using Debian Unstable on i386. P.S. I was looking through some of the bug reports for xfree86 and noticed a lot of old bugs taged as upstream. Has there been any effort to go look over these and check if any are fixed in the current version so they can be closed?
apt-build and xfree86
Im currently trying to rebuild some stuff on my system using apt-build and its not going very well. In particular: apt-build --reinstall --rebuild install xserver-xfree86 -> Installing build dependencies (for xserver-xfree86) <- Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package hurd has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package hurd has no installation candidate E: Build-Depends dependency on xfree86 cannot be satisfied because the package freebsd cannot be found Error while installing build dependencies, stopped. and: apt-get build-dep xserver-xfree86 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package hurd has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package hurd has no installation candidate E: Build-Depends dependency on xfree86 cannot be satisfied because the package freebsd cannot be found Im thinking some dependency has been added on the Hurd and since Im using the linux kernel it cant satisfy the hurd deps. xserver-xfree86: Installed: 4.2.1-3 Candidate: 4.2.1-3 Using Debian Unstable on i386. P.S. I was looking through some of the bug reports for xfree86 and noticed a lot of old bugs taged as upstream. Has there been any effort to go look over these and check if any are fixed in the current version so they can be closed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: # Re: Gatos deb's (was: Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v3 (source,i386)available at the X Strike Force)
On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 03:46, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 04:27, Scott Henson wrote: > > > GATOS doesn't do 2D acceleration AFAIK, don't you mean 3D anyway? > > > > > > Either way, try > > > > > > deb http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/./ > > > > I upgraded recently to these deb on my radeon 7000 system. Now after > > upgrade XF86 no longer comes up automatically > > You mean with a display manager? Beware that these debs are missing the > XdmAuth code which xdm and others use by default; at least xdm can be > set up to work without it though. Makes sense. Im the only one using the machine so not a big problem. > > and I cannot start it with startx as a normal user, though root can. > > xinit does bring up XF86 though. When using startx the x server fails > > silently with out any errors or warnings. I also cannot find a > > difference in the log files between startx as a normal user and startx > > as root. > > Weird. I haven't had any problems like that so without more information > I can't really do anything. What information do you need? When I type startx as a normal user the xserver looks like its going to start up then just dies with the only message on the screen being that It is waiting for X to die. Then when I startx as root the server comes up and everything works properly, except for the fact that KDE freezes and the xserver has to be killed. Root seems to have KDE setup as its default environment(probably because Im using KDM) and I have gnome-session setup as mine. I diffed the XFree86.0.log s from each time and I did not get any difference except the header line which contained the time. I can use xinit to start the xserver as the normal user then start a gnome-session from the xterm. Then everything seems to work just fine. > > I also have noticed a slow down in the system as a whole. > > Can you be more specific? At least the operation of the X server should > definitely become faster or in the worst case stay the same... I thought this as well, but the system operation as a whole is much slower than with the old xfree86 debs. There is more memory usage(main memory not the card's memory) as well as programs taking forever to start. Before I could expect things like galeon to come up in less than 5 seconds but now it is taking as much as 20 seconds. I dont know if this is directly related to the xserver, but it wasnt happening till after I instaled it. Though the lines that appeared after windows while dragging them have significantly diminished as well as a few other annoyances with the old xserver. Is there anyway I can tell for sure if Im using hardware acceleration? A way to turn it on if Im not? > > Maybe someone could tell me how to simply remove these debs and replace > > them with Branden's(which work wonderfully without any problems on this > > system). > > sudo apt-get remove xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk xlibmesa3+ This was the first thing I tried, but it wants to remove about 80 other packages that Im guessing depend on having an xserver installed. I still do have Branden's debs installed, but it still wants to remove a bunch of packages. I still would like to get hardware acceleration working, but is there anyway to switch between the two? Like using update alternatives to point to Branden's xserver and switch it to accelerated xserver when I want the hardware acceleration? Thanks. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] "God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters," rapper Ice Cube said. "But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat."
Re: # Re: Gatos deb's (was: Re: xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v3 (source,i386)available at the X Strike Force)
On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 21:08, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 02:55, Csan wrote: > > > > > > is there any chance for gatos deb's for i386 and powerpc? > > > > > What do you need it for? If it's about Mach64, try > > > > > deb http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-mach64/ ./ > > > > I would need 2d acceleration for my ATI Radeon 7200 (VIVO 64MB DDR) very > > bad. > > I'd like to dive myself into Quake 3 mapping with GTKRadiant map editor, > > but I > > can't since the ati driver shipped with the current xserver, does not > > contains > > any 2d acceleration... > > > > Are there any plans for integrating gatos 2d aacceleration into the xfree6 > > project's next debian release. > > GATOS doesn't do 2D acceleration AFAIK, don't you mean 3D anyway? > > Either way, try > > deb http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/debian/dri-trunk/./ I upgraded recently to these deb on my radeon 7000 system. Now after upgrade XF86 no longer comes up automatically and I cannot start it with startx as a normal user, though root can. xinit does bring up XF86 though. When using startx the x server fails silently with out any errors or warnings. I also cannot find a difference in the log files between startx as a normal user and startx as root. I also have noticed a slow down in the system as a whole. Any advice on what I should do? Maybe someone could tell me how to simply remove these debs and replace them with Branden's(which work wonderfully without any problems on this system). I would appreciate any help I could get. Thankyou. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: testers wanted for xfree86 4.1.0-14pre15v3
On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:04, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:55:18PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > xfree86 (4.1.0-14pre15v3) unstable; urgency=high > > A qualified yes. I upgraded my i386/i810 system at work while X was > still running, and when I went to restart X the system hung (unpingable, > no logs anywhere of what went wrong). However, once I rebooted the new > version ran smoothly for the rest of the day, so if nothing particular > changed that might affect i810 cards then this incident could probably > be put down to cosmic rays. > > In my tests, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from potato no longer wants to > remove xbase-clients. Thanks! > The same thing happened to me. It hung on the first reboot(first time I restarted the X server since the upgrade). It was totally dead. I had to force the reboot. Then when it came back up I told it to kill the x server from the start. Then I realized that I had made some modifications by hand to the config files. I went back in a did a dpkg-reconfigure on the x server. I fixed the problem and then did a startx. Everything went fine. I thought it was something to do with my screw up, but if someone else is expierinceing it then perhaps its a bug of some sort. I can downgrade and try the upgrade again if branden wants me too. I have the time if anyone has a question. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] "God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters," rapper Ice Cube said. "But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat."
Re: testers wanted for xfree86 4.1.0-14pre15v3
On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:04, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:55:18PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > xfree86 (4.1.0-14pre15v3) unstable; urgency=high > > A qualified yes. I upgraded my i386/i810 system at work while X was > still running, and when I went to restart X the system hung (unpingable, > no logs anywhere of what went wrong). However, once I rebooted the new > version ran smoothly for the rest of the day, so if nothing particular > changed that might affect i810 cards then this incident could probably > be put down to cosmic rays. > > In my tests, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from potato no longer wants to > remove xbase-clients. Thanks! > The same thing happened to me. It hung on the first reboot(first time I restarted the X server since the upgrade). It was totally dead. I had to force the reboot. Then when it came back up I told it to kill the x server from the start. Then I realized that I had made some modifications by hand to the config files. I went back in a did a dpkg-reconfigure on the x server. I fixed the problem and then did a startx. Everything went fine. I thought it was something to do with my screw up, but if someone else is expierinceing it then perhaps its a bug of some sort. I can downgrade and try the upgrade again if branden wants me too. I have the time if anyone has a question. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] "God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters," rapper Ice Cube said. "But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATI Radeon VE
I have a Radeon VE that under windows has support to extend a desktop across two heads and then display a totally different screen(a DVD image) to a third head. I was wondering if anyone had any information on doing this under X. I have heard of many people doing this with matrox cards and I have done that myself, but what I really want is that third head to display DVD playback. Any suggestions? Thanks -- -Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATI Radeon VE
I have a Radeon VE that under windows has support to extend a desktop across two heads and then display a totally different screen(a DVD image) to a third head. I was wondering if anyone had any information on doing this under X. I have heard of many people doing this with matrox cards and I have done that myself, but what I really want is that third head to display DVD playback. Any suggestions? Thanks -- -Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
