Re: [Debian-ppc64-devel] x libraries and powerpc/ppc64 biarch setup.
On 05-Sep-23 14:03, Sven Luther wrote: > Andreas Jochens wrote: > > Please do not start the naming debate for the ppc64 port again. > > This has been discussed and decided months ago. > > Decided ? i don't think i was part of this discussion, and with the ppc/ppc64 > kernel upstream thingy changing to a single powerpc one, things did indeed > change. Sven, you wrote the following in that discussing on debian-devel (see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/03/msg01828.html). Sven Luther wrote: > Notice that ppc64 is what is widely known in the outside world on anyone > working with 64bit powerpc, that both the kernel and the toolchain use > it, that all the documentation referent to it uses ppc64 and that the > other distributions doin 64bit powerpc (gento, suze and redhat) use it > too, as well as all cross toolchain out there. > > Will we want to do something different as pure dogma, despite the cost > involved ? The only voice against 'ppc64' in that discussion was from the dpkg maintainer Scott James Remnant. And yes, it was decided to use the name 'ppc64'. Following that decision, this name was used by 'dpkg', 'apt', 'gcc-4.0' and a lot of other packages. Sven, please do not work against the ppc64 port by confusing people. Regards Andreas Jochens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Debian-ppc64-devel] x libraries and powerpc/ppc64 biarch setup.
On 05-Sep-23 13:16, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:09:17PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote: > > On 05-Sep-23 10:17, Sven Luther wrote: > > > x apparently already builds just fine in 64bit mode, or at least Andreas > > > Jochens has done it, and if multi-arch ever becomes really usable, then > > > another approach would be needed, in the meantime, the biarch is support > > > we > > > will have for etch. > > > > 'xorg-x11' indeed builds fine on the native 64-bit ppc64 port when the > > patch from BTS #319178 is applied. That patch just adds minimal > > support to make the package build on the ppc64 architecture: > > Notice in any case that this patch is probably not going to be used in any > case, since we will either go biarch for etch, or real multi-arch, which > hasn't been decided yet, and that in any case the 64bit name will be > powerpc64, not ppc64. Please do not start the naming debate for the ppc64 port again. This has been discussed and decided months ago. The Debian packaging name is 'ppc64' which conforms to the LSB. This name is already used by dpkg, apt and many other packages. Regards Andreas Jochens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Debian-ppc64-devel] x libraries and powerpc/ppc64 biarch setup.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 02:06:22PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote: > On 05-Sep-23 13:16, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:09:17PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote: > > > On 05-Sep-23 10:17, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > x apparently already builds just fine in 64bit mode, or at least Andreas > > > > Jochens has done it, and if multi-arch ever becomes really usable, then > > > > another approach would be needed, in the meantime, the biarch is > > > > support we > > > > will have for etch. > > > > > > 'xorg-x11' indeed builds fine on the native 64-bit ppc64 port when the > > > patch from BTS #319178 is applied. That patch just adds minimal > > > support to make the package build on the ppc64 architecture: > > > > Notice in any case that this patch is probably not going to be used in any > > case, since we will either go biarch for etch, or real multi-arch, which > > hasn't been decided yet, and that in any case the 64bit name will be > > powerpc64, not ppc64. > > Please do not start the naming debate for the ppc64 port again. > This has been discussed and decided months ago. Decided ? i don't think i was part of this discussion, and with the ppc/ppc64 kernel upstream thingy changing to a single powerpc one, things did indeed change. > The Debian packaging name is 'ppc64' which conforms to the LSB. > This name is already used by dpkg, apt and many other packages. Well, we will see. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Debian-ppc64-devel] x libraries and powerpc/ppc64 biarch setup.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:09:17PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote: > On 05-Sep-23 10:17, Sven Luther wrote: > > x apparently already builds just fine in 64bit mode, or at least Andreas > > Jochens has done it, and if multi-arch ever becomes really usable, then > > another approach would be needed, in the meantime, the biarch is support we > > will have for etch. > > 'xorg-x11' indeed builds fine on the native 64-bit ppc64 port when the > patch from BTS #319178 is applied. That patch just adds minimal > support to make the package build on the ppc64 architecture: Notice in any case that this patch is probably not going to be used in any case, since we will either go biarch for etch, or real multi-arch, which hasn't been decided yet, and that in any case the 64bit name will be powerpc64, not ppc64. More to this in the coming days. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Debian-ppc64-devel] x libraries and powerpc/ppc64 biarch setup.
On 05-Sep-23 10:17, Sven Luther wrote: > x apparently already builds just fine in 64bit mode, or at least Andreas > Jochens has done it, and if multi-arch ever becomes really usable, then > another approach would be needed, in the meantime, the biarch is support we > will have for etch. 'xorg-x11' indeed builds fine on the native 64-bit ppc64 port when the patch from BTS #319178 is applied. That patch just adds minimal support to make the package build on the ppc64 architecture: * Add ppc64 to 'Architecture:' fields in debian/control * Add ppc64 handling to debian/xserver-xorg.config.in * Add the following new files: debian/scripts/vars.ppc64 debian/MANIFEST.ppc64.in debian/libxvmc-dev.install.ppc64 debian/libxvmc1-dbg.install.ppc64 debian/libxvmc1.install.ppc64 debian/xlibmesa-dri-dbg.install.ppc64 debian/xlibmesa-dri.install.ppc64 debian/xserver-xorg.config.in debian/xserver-xorg.docs.ppc64 debian/xserver-xorg.install.ppc64 Note that this patch has nothing to do with the powerpc/ppc64 biarch 'lib64...' approach that Sven has in mind. I have no idea if a biarch approach would work for the 'xorg-x11' package. Even if it is possible, I fear that it would complicate the packaging of 'xorg-x11'. It would certainly be nice to have 64-bit versions of the X libraries available on powerpc (and also on i386). However, IMHO this problem should be solved by implementing 'multiarch', i.e. by allowing the installation of packages that have been built on a different architecture. Regards Andreas Jochens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
