Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > > So there is no way it can be in testing. > So it goes stable -> woody -> testing -> sid ? Which one should developers > run? Stable (Potato) <- Testing (Woody) <- Unstable (Sid) You should probably be running whichever distribution your packages are built for. For example, if you maintain a package in Potato, you should have a Potato box lying around to compile with. If you're building a package for Woody, and it's already in the new Woody Pool, and you don't need for it to advance before Woody freezes, run Woody. If you're building a bleeding-edge package that depends on XFree86 4.0.2, glibc2.2, or some other libraries that didn't or won't make it to Woody, Sid is just fine (and a lot more fun ;). -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > > So there is no way it can be in testing. > So it goes stable -> woody -> testing -> sid ? Which one should developers > run? Stable (Potato) <- Testing (Woody) <- Unstable (Sid) You should probably be running whichever distribution your packages are built for. For example, if you maintain a package in Potato, you should have a Potato box lying around to compile with. If you're building a package for Woody, and it's already in the new Woody Pool, and you don't need for it to advance before Woody freezes, run Woody. If you're building a bleeding-edge package that depends on XFree86 4.0.2, glibc2.2, or some other libraries that didn't or won't make it to Woody, Sid is just fine (and a lot more fun ;). -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > arm). Always on the small ones... X depends on glibc2.2? How could I build X on m68k then? Its not listed in the build-depends and I could build one version (when I could keep up with Branden once) with glibc2.1 on m68k. I think it depends on glibc2.2 only because it was built with glibc2.2. So quite a few packages are not yet in woody, because they depend/were built with glibc2.2 and m68k has not made it that far yet? How long until m68k will be kicked? I wanted to wait for some more m68k people to test glibc2.2, but maybe I can wait a long time for that to happen. It seems to work on amiga and mac. Shouldn't glibc2.2 be released together with the latest gcc? That one crashed my machine instead of creating packages. Maybe in the next try. Technically, X builds on m68k (4.0.1-10 did with glibc2.1 and gcc-2.95-13.1, the recent one built with glibc2.2), but it does not work yet (not yet tested with yesterdays build). Should I upload nevertheless so that it can make it into testing for the other arches? > So there is no way it can be in testing. So it goes stable -> woody -> testing -> sid ? Which one should developers run? Christian -- First they ignore you. Then they laugh about you. Then they fight you. And then you win. [Mahatma Gandhi]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:07:10AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:48:32PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:44AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > > > > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > > > > arm). > > > > > > On an x86 system running Woody: > > > > Obviously if you installed this before the "testing" dist was started, you > > will have it installed. > > Okay, in this case, pardon my ignorance, but testing dist? When did this > happen? :) I didn't think Woody was really old enough to warrant getting > ready for a freeze... This is the first I'd heard of 'sid'. Actually, > what character in Toy Story is that? A few days ago, announce on -devel and -devel-announce. Also mentioned on -news, IIRC. No, testing isn't a freeze; it's a technique which will hopefully make freezes easier and/or shorter. Sid is the boy next door who breaks toys. Sid has been a dist for unreleasing architectures for a year or two now. Jules
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > arm). Always on the small ones... X depends on glibc2.2? How could I build X on m68k then? Its not listed in the build-depends and I could build one version (when I could keep up with Branden once) with glibc2.1 on m68k. I think it depends on glibc2.2 only because it was built with glibc2.2. So quite a few packages are not yet in woody, because they depend/were built with glibc2.2 and m68k has not made it that far yet? How long until m68k will be kicked? I wanted to wait for some more m68k people to test glibc2.2, but maybe I can wait a long time for that to happen. It seems to work on amiga and mac. Shouldn't glibc2.2 be released together with the latest gcc? That one crashed my machine instead of creating packages. Maybe in the next try. Technically, X builds on m68k (4.0.1-10 did with glibc2.1 and gcc-2.95-13.1, the recent one built with glibc2.2), but it does not work yet (not yet tested with yesterdays build). Should I upload nevertheless so that it can make it into testing for the other arches? > So there is no way it can be in testing. So it goes stable -> woody -> testing -> sid ? Which one should developers run? Christian -- First they ignore you. Then they laugh about you. Then they fight you. And then you win. [Mahatma Gandhi] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:07:10AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:48:32PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:44AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > > > > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > > > > arm). > > > > > > On an x86 system running Woody: > > > > Obviously if you installed this before the "testing" dist was started, you > > will have it installed. > > Okay, in this case, pardon my ignorance, but testing dist? When did this > happen? :) I didn't think Woody was really old enough to warrant getting > ready for a freeze... This is the first I'd heard of 'sid'. Actually, > what character in Toy Story is that? A few days ago, announce on -devel and -devel-announce. Also mentioned on -news, IIRC. No, testing isn't a freeze; it's a technique which will hopefully make freezes easier and/or shorter. Sid is the boy next door who breaks toys. Sid has been a dist for unreleasing architectures for a year or two now. Jules -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:48:32PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > This is on ftp-master. So, yes, the old woody used to have it (when woody > was "unstable"), but the new woody doesn't (since it is now "testing"). > "Sid" is not "unstable". I stand corrected. I've been following the whole pools and testing issues, but my ftp.nl.uu.net_pub_linux_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages still contained 4.0.1. -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Santi Béjar" wrote: > To begin with testing (now woody) way better to put all the potato > packages in testing. When the times goes the packages in unstable (sid) > will go to testing. > > So by now I have a woody machine but if I do a apt-get update (with the > deb files in source.list pointing to woody) I'll see that all the > available packages are older than what I have installed. [...] > I hope I've helped. Yes, I think so, thanks. I guess part of the confusion stems from the fact that old versions of pre-testing woody packages are still lying around in the woody archive directory. For all who don't know about package pools yet, I recommend reading http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/poolfaq And about testing: http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
Hi everybody, Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On an x86 system running Woody: > > Package: libc6 > Status: install ok installed > Version: 2.2-5 > > Package: xfree86-common > Status: install ok installed > Version: 4.0.1-11 > > So there is no way it can be in testing. > But the packages are in Woody (on the x86 architecture, anyway) nontheless. Yes, I have this too. But the point is this. To begin with testing (now woody) way better to put all the potato packages in testing. When the times goes the packages in unstable (sid) will go to testing. So by now I have a woody machine but if I do a apt-get update (with the deb files in source.list pointing to woody) I'll see that all the available packages are older than what I have installed. For example, I've downloaded this file: http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ^ it is in the woody distribution. But if I see the line about the xserver-common it says. Package: xserver-common Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 960 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: xfree86-1 Version: 3.3.6-11potato15 But XF4 is in unstable (sid). In the Packages file http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ^^^ says Package: xserver-common Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 208 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: xfree86 Version: 4.0.1pre2.RC3-1 So if you want to continue in the bleeding-edge you must point to unstable(sid). I hope I've helped. Santi -- Looking for signature... Looking for signature...done
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:48:32PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:44AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > > > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > > > arm). > > > > On an x86 system running Woody: > > Obviously if you installed this before the "testing" dist was started, you > will have it installed. Okay, in this case, pardon my ignorance, but testing dist? When did this happen? :) I didn't think Woody was really old enough to warrant getting ready for a freeze... This is the first I'd heard of 'sid'. Actually, what character in Toy Story is that? > This is on ftp-master. So, yes, the old woody used to have it (when woody > was "unstable"), but the new woody doesn't (since it is now "testing"). > "Sid" is not "unstable". Okay, now I'm just confused. :) > You are probably looking at "unstable" and assuming it is "woody", when > now it isn't. Unstable is "sid". Yeah, that's what was going on. My bad. :) -- Joshua Shagam /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / No HTML/RTF in email www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam X No Word docs in email mp3.com/fluffyporcupine/ \ Respect for open standards
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:44AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > > arm). > > On an x86 system running Woody: Obviously if you installed this before the "testing" dist was started, you will have it installed. > > So there is no way it can be in testing. > > But the packages are in Woody (on the x86 architecture, anyway) nontheless. % grep "Package: xserver-xfree86" Packages % pwd /org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/woody/main/binary-i386 % cd "." % grep "Package: xserver-xfree86" Packages Package: xserver-xfree86 % pwd /org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/sid/main/binary-i386 This is on ftp-master. So, yes, the old woody used to have it (when woody was "unstable"), but the new woody doesn't (since it is now "testing"). "Sid" is not "unstable". You are probably looking at "unstable" and assuming it is "woody", when now it isn't. Unstable is "sid". Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:48:32PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > This is on ftp-master. So, yes, the old woody used to have it (when woody > was "unstable"), but the new woody doesn't (since it is now "testing"). > "Sid" is not "unstable". I stand corrected. I've been following the whole pools and testing issues, but my ftp.nl.uu.net_pub_linux_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages still contained 4.0.1. -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Santi Béjar" wrote: > To begin with testing (now woody) way better to put all the potato > packages in testing. When the times goes the packages in unstable (sid) > will go to testing. > > So by now I have a woody machine but if I do a apt-get update (with the > deb files in source.list pointing to woody) I'll see that all the > available packages are older than what I have installed. [...] > I hope I've helped. Yes, I think so, thanks. I guess part of the confusion stems from the fact that old versions of pre-testing woody packages are still lying around in the woody archive directory. For all who don't know about package pools yet, I recommend reading http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/poolfaq And about testing: http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Michel Dänzer wrote: > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato > > > > > nor for woody. > > > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available > > > > on any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it > > > doesn't build on m68k and arm) > > > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. > > Oh. All the better, sorry about the confusion. > > While we're at it: Do m68k and arm build now or has the policy for testing > been changed? > > > Michel > > > -- > Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast > Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have just take a look to new testing for binary-i386, there are libc6-2.2-5 and so X4.0.1 . ?? Regards, Beppe
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:51:15PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato > > > > > nor > > > > > for woody. > > > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are > > > > available on > > > > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it > > > doesn't > > > build on m68k and arm) > > > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > arm). On an x86 system running Woody: Package: libc6 Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: base Installed-Size: 8226 Maintainer: Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: glibc Version: 2.2-5 Package: xfree86-common Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 716 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: xfree86 Version: 4.0.1-11 > So there is no way it can be in testing. But the packages are in Woody (on the x86 architecture, anyway) nontheless. -- Joshua Shagam /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / No HTML/RTF in email www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam X No Word docs in email mp3.com/fluffyporcupine/ \ Respect for open standards
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato > > > > nor for woody. > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available > > > on any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it > > doesn't build on m68k and arm) > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. Oh. All the better, sorry about the confusion. While we're at it: Do m68k and arm build now or has the policy for testing been changed? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:51:15PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > > > for woody. > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available > > > on > > > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it > > doesn't > > build on m68k and arm) > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and arm). So there is no way it can be in testing. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > > for woody. > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on > > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it doesn't > build on m68k and arm) > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
Hi everybody, Joshua Shagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On an x86 system running Woody: > > Package: libc6 > Status: install ok installed > Version: 2.2-5 > > Package: xfree86-common > Status: install ok installed > Version: 4.0.1-11 > > So there is no way it can be in testing. > But the packages are in Woody (on the x86 architecture, anyway) nontheless. Yes, I have this too. But the point is this. To begin with testing (now woody) way better to put all the potato packages in testing. When the times goes the packages in unstable (sid) will go to testing. So by now I have a woody machine but if I do a apt-get update (with the deb files in source.list pointing to woody) I'll see that all the available packages are older than what I have installed. For example, I've downloaded this file: http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ^ it is in the woody distribution. But if I see the line about the xserver-common it says. Package: xserver-common Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 960 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: xfree86-1 Version: 3.3.6-11potato15 But XF4 is in unstable (sid). In the Packages file http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ^^^ says Package: xserver-common Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 208 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: xfree86 Version: 4.0.1pre2.RC3-1 So if you want to continue in the bleeding-edge you must point to unstable(sid). I hope I've helped. Santi -- Looking for signature... Looking for signature...done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > for woody. > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it doesn't build on m68k and arm) It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:48:32PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:44AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > > > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > > > arm). > > > > On an x86 system running Woody: > > Obviously if you installed this before the "testing" dist was started, you > will have it installed. Okay, in this case, pardon my ignorance, but testing dist? When did this happen? :) I didn't think Woody was really old enough to warrant getting ready for a freeze... This is the first I'd heard of 'sid'. Actually, what character in Toy Story is that? > This is on ftp-master. So, yes, the old woody used to have it (when woody > was "unstable"), but the new woody doesn't (since it is now "testing"). > "Sid" is not "unstable". Okay, now I'm just confused. :) > You are probably looking at "unstable" and assuming it is "woody", when > now it isn't. Unstable is "sid". Yeah, that's what was going on. My bad. :) -- Joshua Shagam /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / No HTML/RTF in email www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam X No Word docs in email mp3.com/fluffyporcupine/ \ Respect for open standards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:44AM -0700, Joshua Shagam wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > > arm). > > On an x86 system running Woody: Obviously if you installed this before the "testing" dist was started, you will have it installed. > > So there is no way it can be in testing. > > But the packages are in Woody (on the x86 architecture, anyway) nontheless. % grep "Package: xserver-xfree86" Packages % pwd /org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/woody/main/binary-i386 % cd "." % grep "Package: xserver-xfree86" Packages Package: xserver-xfree86 % pwd /org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/sid/main/binary-i386 This is on ftp-master. So, yes, the old woody used to have it (when woody was "unstable"), but the new woody doesn't (since it is now "testing"). "Sid" is not "unstable". You are probably looking at "unstable" and assuming it is "woody", when now it isn't. Unstable is "sid". Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Michel Dänzer wrote: > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato > > > > > nor for woody. > > > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available > > > > on any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it > > > doesn't build on m68k and arm) > > > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. > > Oh. All the better, sorry about the confusion. > > While we're at it: Do m68k and arm build now or has the policy for testing > been changed? > > > Michel > > > -- > Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast > Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have just take a look to new testing for binary-i386, there are libc6-2.2-5 and so X4.0.1 . ?? Regards, Beppe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:07:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:51:15PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > > > > for woody. > > > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on > > > > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it doesn't > > > build on m68k and arm) > > > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. > > No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of > m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and > arm). On an x86 system running Woody: Package: libc6 Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: base Installed-Size: 8226 Maintainer: Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: glibc Version: 2.2-5 Package: xfree86-common Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 716 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: xfree86 Version: 4.0.1-11 > So there is no way it can be in testing. But the packages are in Woody (on the x86 architecture, anyway) nontheless. -- Joshua Shagam /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / No HTML/RTF in email www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam X No Word docs in email mp3.com/fluffyporcupine/ \ Respect for open standards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > for woody. You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. Look for all packages that have a 4.0.1 in their names. In addition, if you'd searched the debian-x list on lists.debian.org, you would have found at least 5 references to the potato builds of these packages. Once again: deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/all/ These lines should be added to your /etc/apt/sources.list. > May be i just didn´t see it. > In that case could you tell me the package name ? There's much more than just one package. > In case there isn´t a new Debian XFree86 4.01 package yet : Are you or > maybe anyone else working on it? > Other Distributions like RedHat SuSE have it. Why do you mention this? My apologies if this mail is not the most polite one you receive today, but you owe it to all the other people who also aren't willing to spend 5 seconds searching the web or reading to get the information they require, instead opting to waste another person's time (in this case the debian X maintainer's). -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato > > > > nor for woody. > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available > > > on any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it > > doesn't build on m68k and arm) > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. Oh. All the better, sorry about the confusion. While we're at it: Do m68k and arm build now or has the policy for testing been changed? Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:51:15PM +0100, Charl P. Botha wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > > > for woody. > > > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on > > > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it doesn't > > build on m68k and arm) > > > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). > > Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. No, it doesn't. X depedns on glibc 2.2 (which is not in woody because of m68k) and it also does not build on all of our supported archs (m68k and arm). So there is no way it can be in testing. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
He's going to get more than he bargained for; I'm working on getting 4.0.2 .debs out ASAP. In the meantime, someone please point him to relevant Frequenttly Accessed URL's. - Forwarded message from Oliver Poths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Oliver Poths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XFree86 4.01 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:23:37 GMT Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hello, I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor for woody. May be i just didn´t see it. In that case could you tell me the package name ? In case there isn´t a new Debian XFree86 4.01 package yet : Are you or maybe anyone else working on it? Other Distributions like RedHat SuSE have it. Best regards, Oliver Poths [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | "Bother," said Pooh, as he was [EMAIL PROTECTED] | assimilated by the Borg. http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | pgp2DrgKPBH6h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:58:06PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > "Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > > for woody. > > > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on > > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. > > Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it doesn't > build on m68k and arm) > > It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). Wrong. Woody, aka testing, has XFree86-4.0.1-11. -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
"Charl P. Botha" wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > > for woody. > > You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on > any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. Not anymore. woody is now testing, and doesn't have the new X yet. (it doesn't build on m68k and arm) It's currently only in unstable aka sid (right?). Michel -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper) \ CS student and free software enthusiast Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc,i386) user \ member of XFree86 and The DRI Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor > for woody. You should've searched a bit harder. The XFree86 packages are available on any woody mirror in /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/x11/. Look for all packages that have a 4.0.1 in their names. In addition, if you'd searched the debian-x list on lists.debian.org, you would have found at least 5 references to the potato builds of these packages. Once again: deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/all/ These lines should be added to your /etc/apt/sources.list. > May be i just didn´t see it. > In that case could you tell me the package name ? There's much more than just one package. > In case there isn´t a new Debian XFree86 4.01 package yet : Are you or > maybe anyone else working on it? > Other Distributions like RedHat SuSE have it. Why do you mention this? My apologies if this mail is not the most polite one you receive today, but you owe it to all the other people who also aren't willing to spend 5 seconds searching the web or reading to get the information they require, instead opting to waste another person's time (in this case the debian X maintainer's). -- charl p. botha | computer graphics and cad/cam http://cpbotha.net/ | http://www.cg.its.tudelft.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[oliver.poths@linsoft.de: XFree86 4.01]
He's going to get more than he bargained for; I'm working on getting 4.0.2 .debs out ASAP. In the meantime, someone please point him to relevant Frequenttly Accessed URL's. - Forwarded message from Oliver Poths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Oliver Poths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XFree86 4.01 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:23:37 GMT Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <20001220.13233700@rock.> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hello, I couldn´t find a Debian-package for XFree86 4.01 neither for potato nor for woody. May be i just didn´t see it. In that case could you tell me the package name ? In case there isn´t a new Debian XFree86 4.01 package yet : Are you or maybe anyone else working on it? Other Distributions like RedHat SuSE have it. Best regards, Oliver Poths [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | "Bother," said Pooh, as he was [EMAIL PROTECTED] | assimilated by the Borg. http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | PGP signature
