Bug#167009: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#167009: Additional details)
On Don, 2002-10-31 at 03:47, John Goerzen wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:18:05PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Once cannot expect power management-related functionality to work when one's kernel doesn't support power management, or when the interfaces to the kernel's power management support are not set up. One can expect Debian packages to set up the prerequisites they need to operate properly. Perhaps the bug is not with X, but I submit that it is still a bug. We should not be shipping a system configured by default in a way such that we have these lockups. If these lockups are occuring becuase there is no /dev/apm_bios, couldn't X's postinst at least create it? Interestingly, powermgmt-base presents a question about this. On x86 machines, apmd depends on this package, but nothing does on powerpc. pmud recommends it. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#167009: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#167009: Additional details)
On Don, 2002-10-31 at 03:47, John Goerzen wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:18:05PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Once cannot expect power management-related functionality to work when one's kernel doesn't support power management, or when the interfaces to the kernel's power management support are not set up. One can expect Debian packages to set up the prerequisites they need to operate properly. Perhaps the bug is not with X, but I submit that it is still a bug. We should not be shipping a system configured by default in a way such that we have these lockups. If these lockups are occuring becuase there is no /dev/apm_bios, couldn't X's postinst at least create it? Interestingly, powermgmt-base presents a question about this. On x86 machines, apmd depends on this package, but nothing does on powerpc. pmud recommends it. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
Bug#167009: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#167009: Additional details)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:47:57PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:18:05PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Once cannot expect power management-related functionality to work when one's kernel doesn't support power management, or when the interfaces to the kernel's power management support are not set up. One can expect Debian packages to set up the prerequisites they need to operate properly. Power management support packages aren't prerequisites for systems that don't have power management. Perhaps the bug is not with X, but I submit that it is still a bug. Well, why don't you go ask debian-devel what package should handle this sort of thing? If these lockups are occuring becuase there is no /dev/apm_bios, couldn't X's postinst at least create it? Why shouldn't the makedev package? Interestingly, powermgmt-base presents a question about this. On x86 machines, apmd depends on this package, but nothing does on powerpc. Perhaps xserver-xfree86 should do so, to ensure that proper power management interfaces are available to userland? And what of people using other X server packages, or with no X server at all? Shall we just assume those folks don't need power management support? powermgmt-base also appears to take care of the situation properly for people using devfs. Moreover, its size is 128K installed and depends only on makedev, libc6, and debconf. It should not pose any problem for the X server. Sounds like you have a problem with Debian's PowerPC architecture support, and not a problem with XFree86 at all. -- G. Branden Robinson| Convictions are more dangerous Debian GNU/Linux | enemies of truth than lies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Friedrich Nietzsche http://www.deadbeast.net/~branden/ | msg04495/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#167009: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#167009: Additional details)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:18:05PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Once cannot expect power management-related functionality to work when one's kernel doesn't support power management, or when the interfaces to the kernel's power management support are not set up. One can expect Debian packages to set up the prerequisites they need to operate properly. Perhaps the bug is not with X, but I submit that it is still a bug. We should not be shipping a system configured by default in a way such that we have these lockups. If these lockups are occuring becuase there is no /dev/apm_bios, couldn't X's postinst at least create it? Interestingly, powermgmt-base presents a question about this. On x86 machines, apmd depends on this package, but nothing does on powerpc. Perhaps xserver-xfree86 should do so, to ensure that proper power management interfaces are available to userland? powermgmt-base also appears to take care of the situation properly for people using devfs. Moreover, its size is 128K installed and depends only on makedev, libc6, and debconf. It should not pose any problem for the X server. -- John
Bug#167009: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#167009: Additional details)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:47:57PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:18:05PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Once cannot expect power management-related functionality to work when one's kernel doesn't support power management, or when the interfaces to the kernel's power management support are not set up. One can expect Debian packages to set up the prerequisites they need to operate properly. Power management support packages aren't prerequisites for systems that don't have power management. Perhaps the bug is not with X, but I submit that it is still a bug. Well, why don't you go ask debian-devel what package should handle this sort of thing? If these lockups are occuring becuase there is no /dev/apm_bios, couldn't X's postinst at least create it? Why shouldn't the makedev package? Interestingly, powermgmt-base presents a question about this. On x86 machines, apmd depends on this package, but nothing does on powerpc. Perhaps xserver-xfree86 should do so, to ensure that proper power management interfaces are available to userland? And what of people using other X server packages, or with no X server at all? Shall we just assume those folks don't need power management support? powermgmt-base also appears to take care of the situation properly for people using devfs. Moreover, its size is 128K installed and depends only on makedev, libc6, and debconf. It should not pose any problem for the X server. Sounds like you have a problem with Debian's PowerPC architecture support, and not a problem with XFree86 at all. -- G. Branden Robinson| Convictions are more dangerous Debian GNU/Linux | enemies of truth than lies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Friedrich Nietzsche http://www.deadbeast.net/~branden/ | pgpx42gW6LZ2V.pgp Description: PGP signature
