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 retitle 260659 libxaw7-dev: package should have a README file pointing to the 
 docs in the xspecs package
Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation
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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: package should have a README file pointing to the docs 
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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-27 Thread Branden Robinson
retitle 260659 libxaw7-dev: package should have a README file pointing to the 
docs in the xspecs package
severity 260659 wishlist
thanks

On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 09:41:09PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Le jeu 22 jui 2004 à 05:29:02 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapoté sur son clavier :
  OK, gotcha: the READMEs should reference these guides, whereever they
  are.
 Yes, READMEs in -dev packages should at least point at the xspecs
 package (and the control files might even Suggest it).

I agree.

Given the changes that Fabio and I just made[1] to turn off building of the
specs docs for binary-arch builds, what you asked for is now infeasible.

(libxaw7-dev is arch-specific, but xspecs and the specs docs within it are
binary-all.)

I am repurposing this bug, as long as you don't object.

[1] http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/changelog

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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Le mar 27 jui 2004 à 02:11:02 -0500, Branden Robinson a tapoté sur son clavier :
 I am repurposing this bug, as long as you don't object.

No problem.
Thanks,
Samuel




Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: libxaw7-dev
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

Currently, the documentation given along libxaw7-dev is quite poor. On
the other hand, the XFree86 and X.org distributions provide a very
useful documentation in its xc/doc/specs/Xaw directory, which can be
built as text, html or ps.
(actually, several of specs/* should get built  installed in -dev
packages, like Xt, Xmu, Xv, Randr, Render, ...)

Regards,
Samuel

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Versions of packages libxaw7-dev depends on:
ii  libc6-dev [libc-dev]  2.3.2.ds1-13   GNU C Library: Development Librari
ii  libice-dev4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 Inter-Client Exchange library deve
ii  libsm-dev 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Window System Session Management
ii  libx11-dev4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxaw7   4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Athena widget set library
ii  libxext-dev   4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxmu-dev4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Window System miscellaneous util
ii  libxpm-dev4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X pixmap library development files
ii  libxt-dev 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Toolkit Intrinsics development f
ii  x-dev 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X protocol development files

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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi,

A friend of mine told me about the xspecs package. I can tell I would
have never been able to find that by doing apt-file search Xaw and
suchs, since the file I was looking for is called widgets.ps...

He also told me that you wouldn't consider distributing specs files
in corresponding -dev packages... That would help a lot, to my mind,
but you're the maintainer, and I agree that this documentation is
quite big for so installed a package.

But at least those -dev packages should include some
/usr/share/doc/package/README.Debian that tells that full documentation
can be found in the xspecs package and give the precise file name in
/usr/share/doc/xspecs (I wouldn't have found widget.ps by myself
while looking for libXaw...), and add Suggest: xspecs to the control.

Regards,
Samuel



Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
On Thu 22 Jul 2004 04:17:38 +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
 This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. fd.o
 and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.

I don't.



Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:26:09PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 A friend of mine told me about the xspecs package. I can tell I would
 have never been able to find that by doing apt-file search Xaw and
 suchs, since the file I was looking for is called widgets.ps...
 
 He also told me that you wouldn't consider distributing specs files
 in corresponding -dev packages... That would help a lot, to my mind,
 but you're the maintainer, and I agree that this documentation is
 quite big for so installed a package.
 
 But at least those -dev packages should include some
 /usr/share/doc/package/README.Debian that tells that full documentation
 can be found in the xspecs package and give the precise file name in
 /usr/share/doc/xspecs (I wouldn't have found widget.ps by myself
 while looking for libXaw...), and add Suggest: xspecs to the control.

This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. fd.o
and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.

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Debian: the universal operating system http://www.debian.org


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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:32:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 On Thu 22 Jul 2004 04:17:38 +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
  This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. fd.o
  and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.
 
 I don't.

So how are you getting it in the first place?

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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Le jeu 22 jui 2004 à 04:48:15 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapoté sur son clavier :
 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:32:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
  On Thu 22 Jul 2004 04:17:38 +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
   This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. fd.o
   and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.
  
  I don't.
 
 So how are you getting it in the first place?

On CD-ROMs. (don't trust the result of reportbug: it was done on my
laptop which gets upgraded from times to times with a good internet
connexion)

I indeed used the hopefully-already-downloaded-from-x.org-via-a-good-
internet-connection X11R6.7.0-src[1-7].tar.gz files to get to the
specs...



Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:57:33PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Le jeu 22 jui 2004 ? 04:48:15 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapot? sur son clavier :
  On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:32:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
   On Thu 22 Jul 2004 04:17:38 +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. fd.o
and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.
   
   I don't.
  
  So how are you getting it in the first place?
 
 On CD-ROMs. (don't trust the result of reportbug: it was done on my
 laptop which gets upgraded from times to times with a good internet
 connexion)
 
 I indeed used the hopefully-already-downloaded-from-x.org-via-a-good-
 internet-connection X11R6.7.0-src[1-7].tar.gz files to get to the
 specs...

So you don't want to download stuff off the net - instead you want to
... download stuff off the net?

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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 09:19:35PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Le jeu 22 jui 2004 ? 05:10:55 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapot? sur son clavier :
  On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:57:33PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
   Le jeu 22 jui 2004 ? 04:48:15 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapot? sur son 
   clavier :
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:32:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 On Thu 22 Jul 2004 04:17:38 +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
  This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. 
  fd.o
  and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.
 
 I don't.

So how are you getting it in the first place?
   
   On CD-ROMs. (don't trust the result of reportbug: it was done on my
   laptop which gets upgraded from times to times with a good internet
   connexion)
   
   I indeed used the hopefully-already-downloaded-from-x.org-via-a-good-
   internet-connection X11R6.7.0-src[1-7].tar.gz files to get to the
   specs...
  
  So you don't want to download stuff off the net - instead you want to
  ... download stuff off the net?
 
 What just happened is that I had the chance to have already downloaded
 something in which I knew where to find the specs, but that's not what I
 would expect from a distribution.
 
 And indeed it was *already* on my CD-ROMs, but there's was no
 possibility I could find where (ie in the xspecs package), I'm just
 asking for indications in -dev packages: just read my very first post.

I can't speak for the -dev packages, but I don't really have much of an
interest of retaining the current regime upstream.

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Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Le jeu 22 jui 2004 à 05:10:55 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapoté sur son clavier :
 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:57:33PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
  Le jeu 22 jui 2004 ? 04:48:15 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapot? sur son clavier :
   On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:32:01PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
On Thu 22 Jul 2004 04:17:38 +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
 This should ideally just be on a website somewhere or something. fd.o
 and X.Org have lots of bandwidth.

I don't.
   
   So how are you getting it in the first place?
  
  On CD-ROMs. (don't trust the result of reportbug: it was done on my
  laptop which gets upgraded from times to times with a good internet
  connexion)
  
  I indeed used the hopefully-already-downloaded-from-x.org-via-a-good-
  internet-connection X11R6.7.0-src[1-7].tar.gz files to get to the
  specs...
 
 So you don't want to download stuff off the net - instead you want to
 ... download stuff off the net?

What just happened is that I had the chance to have already downloaded
something in which I knew where to find the specs, but that's not what I
would expect from a distribution.

And indeed it was *already* on my CD-ROMs, but there's was no
possibility I could find where (ie in the xspecs package), I'm just
asking for indications in -dev packages: just read my very first post.



Bug#260659: libxaw7-dev: Add specs documentation

2004-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Le jeu 22 jui 2004 à 05:29:02 +1000, Daniel Stone a tapoté sur son clavier :
 OK, gotcha: the READMEs should reference these guides, whereever they
 are.
Yes, READMEs in -dev packages should at least point at the xspecs
package (and the control files might even Suggest it).

Regards,
Samuel