Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:29:04PM +0100, Brice Goglin wrote: > > >> About 2 years ago, you reported a bug to the Debian BTS regarding some >> strange character mapping in the polish keymap. The problem got >> discussed upstream. Is it fixed with current Xorg/Etch? >> > > Unfortunately nothing changed wrt that issue. > >From what I see in the discussion upstream, fixing this problem would be accepted, but they don't have anybody from Poland to check the Polish layout when changing it. In case you want to take care of the Polish layout... Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:29:04PM +0100, Brice Goglin wrote: > About 2 years ago, you reported a bug to the Debian BTS regarding some > strange character mapping in the polish keymap. The problem got > discussed upstream. Is it fixed with current Xorg/Etch? Unfortunately nothing changed wrt that issue. regards fEnIo -- ,''`. Bartosz Fenski | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 | irc:fEnIo : :' : 32-050 Skawina - Glowackiego 3/15 - malopolskie v. - Poland `. `' phone:+48602383548 | proud Debian maintainer and user `- http://skawina.eu.org | jid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | rlu:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
Hi, About 2 years ago, you reported a bug to the Debian BTS regarding some strange character mapping in the polish keymap. The problem got discussed upstream. Is it fixed with current Xorg/Etch? Thanks, Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:40:12PM +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:30:29PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > But I see no reason for such behaviour. It is annoying, cause we've got > > > plenty of common used words that has -ów suffix. To get this suffix we > > > have > > > to push alt+o, then release alt and push w. Since alt+w gives as the same > > > as alt+l it often happens that I see wrongly written words with -ół. > > > > That makes sense, I will forward your request to the xkeyboard-config > > mailing list. > > What's the current state of this bugreport? Did xkeyboard maintainers > dismiss this change? If yes, then why? My bad, I forgot to get back to you, sorry. > Could you please point me to the thread wrt this issue on their list? Please see http://listserv.bat.ru/xkb/Message/820.html http://listserv.bat.ru/xkb/Message/823.html http://listserv.bat.ru/xkb/Message/828.html http://listserv.bat.ru/xkb/Message/829.html and feel free to join this discussion. Denis
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:30:29PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > But I see no reason for such behaviour. It is annoying, cause we've got > > plenty of common used words that has -ów suffix. To get this suffix we have > > to push alt+o, then release alt and push w. Since alt+w gives as the same > > as alt+l it often happens that I see wrongly written words with -ół. > > That makes sense, I will forward your request to the xkeyboard-config > mailing list. What's the current state of this bugreport? Did xkeyboard maintainers dismiss this change? If yes, then why? If not, then why it is not fixed in recent release of X? There were at least two releases after your statement about forwarding it to their mailinglist. Could you please point me to the thread wrt this issue on their list? regards fEnIo -- ,''`. Bartosz Fenski | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 | irc:fEnIo : :' : 32-050 Skawina - Glowackiego 3/15 - w. malopolskie - Poland `. `' phone:+48602383548 | proud Debian maintainer and user `- http://skawina.eu.org | jid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | rlu:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 02:04:03PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > But I see no reason for such behaviour. It is annoying, cause we've got > plenty of common used words that has -ów suffix. To get this suffix we have > to push alt+o, then release alt and push w. Since alt+w gives as the same > as alt+l it often happens that I see wrongly written words with -ół. That makes sense, I will forward your request to the xkeyboard-config mailing list. Denis
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Thursday 25 August 2005 14:04, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > > This is because you are looking at the wrong file, see > > /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/pl instead. This file loads > > /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/latin which contains these > > definitions. But I do not see why displaying these > > symbols is a problem for you. I had the same problem when working on the Dutch keyboard layout (see #286581). In the end I decided to define a clean, full keyboard layout without the inclusion of latin. Reasons why loading the latin default can be considered a problem: - a lot of the characters are not available in the standard charset; - keeping the latin defaults leads to some characters being defined for more than one key; - people don't expect keys that are undefined to generate "random" characters; - there is little or no logic in which key combination generates which character, making them difficult to remember. My feeling while testing the combination of latin default together with dutch specific overrides was that the result was very messy. pgpNeLpz6fAmD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:41:17PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Polish language doesn't use alt+w, alt+q and alt+f shortcuts cause we don't > > have language specific characters there, so I think these combinations > > shoulnd't output anything, but they do: > > > > alt+w - ł > > alt+q - @ > > alt+f - đ > > alt+j - j > > > > alt+w outputs the same character as alt+l. > > > > I asked some friends using Gentoo and the same problem exists there, so > > it's not Debian specific. > > > > Probably Polish keymap is wrong, but looking at /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl > > I can't see anything related to these keys. > > This is because you are looking at the wrong file, see > /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/pl instead. This file loads > /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/latin which contains these > definitions. But I do not see why displaying these > symbols is a problem for you. Well it's not a big problem. That's why I used minor severity. But I see no reason for such behaviour. It is annoying, cause we've got plenty of common used words that has -ów suffix. To get this suffix we have to push alt+o, then release alt and push w. Since alt+w gives as the same as alt+l it often happens that I see wrongly written words with -ół. And I don't understand what's the problem with removing it from Polish layout? And why these keys are active at all? Is it because of compatibility with other latin languages? So people from Hungary have working alt+l if they don't use it for example? Thanks for your quick response. regards fEnIo -- ,''`. Bartosz Fenski | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 | irc:fEnIo : :' : 32-050 Skawina - Glowackiego 3/15 - w. malopolskie - Poland `. `' phone:+48602383548 | proud Debian maintainer and user `- http://skawina.eu.org | jid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | rlu:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 11:09:50AM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > Package: xlibs > Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 > Severity: minor > File: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Polish language doesn't use alt+w, alt+q and alt+f shortcuts cause we don't > have language specific characters there, so I think these combinations > shoulnd't output anything, but they do: > > alt+w - ł > alt+q - @ > alt+f - đ > alt+j - j > > alt+w outputs the same character as alt+l. > > I asked some friends using Gentoo and the same problem exists there, so > it's not Debian specific. > > Probably Polish keymap is wrong, but looking at /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl > I can't see anything related to these keys. This is because you are looking at the wrong file, see /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/pl instead. This file loads /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/latin which contains these definitions. But I do not see why displaying these symbols is a problem for you. Denis
Bug#324647: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl: strange characters mapping with Polish keymap (pl)
Package: xlibs
Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5
Severity: minor
File: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Polish language doesn't use alt+w, alt+q and alt+f shortcuts cause we don't
have language specific characters there, so I think these combinations
shoulnd't output anything, but they do:
alt+w - ł
alt+q - @
alt+f - đ
alt+j - j
alt+w outputs the same character as alt+l.
I asked some friends using Gentoo and the same problem exists there, so
it's not Debian specific.
Probably Polish keymap is wrong, but looking at /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pl
I can't see anything related to these keys.
regards
fEnIo
- -- Package-specific info:
No X.Org X server log files found.
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