Bug#372077: Scary message on new installations

2006-07-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 01:19:59PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:03:25AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > 
> > IME, it only lists NEWS.Debian files on upgrades...
> 
> Mine as well. I had a ton of clueless users early on in the transition to
> 7.0 because I had documented things in NEWS.Debian, which they were never
> shown because the package was new. I don't want to go down that road again.
> 
>  - David Nusinow

Now in #372077 also.

hth
gst


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Bug#372077: Scary message on new installations

2006-07-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:43:27PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 01, 2006 at 04:53:56PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > Right, but it might be a sufficient hint so that aptitude, and maybe apt,
> > will do the right thing.
> 
> This change *will* be sufficient to allow aptitude and apt to do the right
> thing *in a greater number of cases*.  Just how large a coverage this will
> give, I can't say -- the only good way to find out is to try it and see what
> upgrade testers have to say about it.
> 
> > Ok... I'll lower the priority of the note to medium and add the
> > xserver-xfree86 dummy package. Hopefully that'll be sufficient. As
> > discussed elsewhere, I'd prefer to use NEWS.Debian, but it won't be shown
> > to the user in this case, so a medium priority debconf abusing note should
> > suffice.
> 
> What do you mean, "in this case"?  I don't see why NEWS.Debian is any less
> appropriate here than in other cases.  Is there some concern about
> apt-listchanges not listing NEWS files for newly-installed packages?
> 
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Bug#372077: Scary message on new installations

2006-07-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:03:25AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:43:27PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > appropriate here than in other cases.  Is there some concern about
> > apt-listchanges not listing NEWS files for newly-installed packages?
> 
> IME, it only lists NEWS.Debian files on upgrades...
> 



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Bug#372077: Scary message on new installations

2006-07-02 Thread H t H
On Sat, Jul 01, 2006 at 04:53:56PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 01, 2006 at 12:06:16AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > 
> > It is still valid for aptitude to remove xserver-xfree86, even as a
> > transitional package, if the old version is conflicted with.  There's
> > nothing in our packaging system that lets you mark a particular package as
> > "not to be removed on upgrade".  A dummy xserver-xfree86 package may fix
> > this for most users, though.
> 
> Right, but it might be a sufficient hint so that aptitude, and maybe apt,
> will do the right thing. Ok... I'll lower the priority of the note to
> medium and add the xserver-xfree86 dummy package. Hopefully that'll be
> sufficient. As discussed elsewhere, I'd prefer to use NEWS.Debian, but it
> won't be shown to the user in this case, so a medium priority debconf
> abusing note should suffice.
> 
>  - David Nusinow
> 


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