Bug#374986: Removing "dri" preset for recent ATI radeon cars

2006-11-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 15:25 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> 
> Sure, sure. But then, please tell me how. I am just a dumb user when it
> comes to the X11 internals.

Doesn't really matter, it's just about finding other people with the
same card and seeing whether it works for them or not.


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Libre software enthusiast |  Debian, X and DRI developer



Bug#374986: Removing "dri" preset for recent ATI radeon cars

2006-11-19 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Michel Dänzer [Sun, Nov 19 2006, 03:10:57PM]:
> On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 22:43 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > #include 
> > * Michel Dänzer [Fri, Nov 17 2006, 05:03:21PM]:
> > > On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 13:21 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think about simply removing the dri module if a recent ATI
> > > > card has been detected? The entry may even be there, but commented. The
> > > > reason is simple, it still causes trouble with dying (system locking) X
> > > > server, and for many people the stuff does not work anyway without the
> > > > non-free driver. 
> > > 
> > > Not in my experience nor according to what I hear upstream. Even here
> > > I'd expect more similar reports if this was the case.
> > 
> > Hm? The one you commented today on
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8243 is at least one of
> > such kind.
> 
> See the rest of my post. The reporter of that bug doesn't even have a
> card from the range you suggested disabling the DRI for. The symptoms
> are very generic and can be caused by a wide range of specific problems.
> You have yet to demonstrate a systematic problem independent of specific
> system setup.

Sure, sure. But then, please tell me how. I am just a dumb user when it
comes to the X11 internals.

Eduard.
-- 
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  Ann Zug 



Bug#374986: Removing "dri" preset for recent ATI radeon cars

2006-11-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 22:43 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include 
> * Michel Dänzer [Fri, Nov 17 2006, 05:03:21PM]:
> > On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 13:21 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: 
> > > 
> > > What do you think about simply removing the dri module if a recent ATI
> > > card has been detected? The entry may even be there, but commented. The
> > > reason is simple, it still causes trouble with dying (system locking) X
> > > server, and for many people the stuff does not work anyway without the
> > > non-free driver. 
> > 
> > Not in my experience nor according to what I hear upstream. Even here
> > I'd expect more similar reports if this was the case.
> 
> Hm? The one you commented today on
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8243 is at least one of
> such kind.

See the rest of my post. The reporter of that bug doesn't even have a
card from the range you suggested disabling the DRI for. The symptoms
are very generic and can be caused by a wide range of specific problems.
You have yet to demonstrate a systematic problem independent of specific
system setup.


-- 
Earthling Michel Dänzer   |  http://tungstengraphics.com
Libre software enthusiast |  Debian, X and DRI developer



Bug#374986: Removing "dri" preset for recent ATI radeon cars

2006-11-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Michel Dänzer [Fri, Nov 17 2006, 05:03:21PM]:
> On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 13:21 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: 
> > 
> > What do you think about simply removing the dri module if a recent ATI
> > card has been detected? The entry may even be there, but commented. The
> > reason is simple, it still causes trouble with dying (system locking) X
> > server, and for many people the stuff does not work anyway without the
> > non-free driver. 
> 
> Not in my experience nor according to what I hear upstream. Even here
> I'd expect more similar reports if this was the case.

Hm? The one you commented today on
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8243 is at least one of
such kind.

Eduard.

-- 
 Rhonda: da musst du alfie fragen, der is da voll der profi



Bug#374986: Removing "dri" preset for recent ATI radeon cars

2006-11-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 13:21 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: 
> 
> What do you think about simply removing the dri module if a recent ATI
> card has been detected? The entry may even be there, but commented. The
> reason is simple, it still causes trouble with dying (system locking) X
> server, and for many people the stuff does not work anyway without the
> non-free driver. 

Not in my experience nor according to what I hear upstream. Even here
I'd expect more similar reports if this was the case.

> I heard rumors about beta quality support for some X800 chips 
> but not much more.

I'm not aware of any remaining known upstream stability issues with any
whole series of supported non-integrated Radeon cards. It's true though
that there will always be issues with specific setups (combination of
graphics card and motherboard chipset, ...), avoiding these would
require not enabling the DRI by default regardless of the hardware or
driver.


-- 
Earthling Michel Dänzer   |  http://tungstengraphics.com
Libre software enthusiast |  Debian, X and DRI developer



Bug#374986: Removing "dri" preset for recent ATI radeon cars

2006-11-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 

What do you think about simply removing the dri module if a recent ATI
card has been detected? The entry may even be there, but commented. The
reason is simple, it still causes trouble with dying (system locking) X
server, and for many people the stuff does not work anyway without the
non-free driver. I heard rumors about beta quality support for some X800
chips but not much more.

Eduard.

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lassen
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