Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
On Mittwoch, 19. September 2007, Brice Goglin wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: One thing I just noticed though: x11-utils changelog doesn't mention xrandr 1.2.2 it only mentions 1.2.0, so may I have a too-old xrandr? x11-xserver-utils (7.2-2) experimental; urgency=low * Add xrandr 1.2.2. You probably have 7.3+1, right? So it should be fine. Ok, I tried again with the latest unstable Xorg and using the experimental ati driver package. XRandR now kind of works, that is if I start up a plain xterm with the attached xorg.conf I do get a 3360x1050 desktop. A few problems remain - the dpi setting seems to be set wrongly, I've got a 332x205 laptop display (mm) and a 365x275 mm CRT. And xorg sets 96dpi and xrandr tells me that the screen size is actually 888x220 mmm??? Right would be something like 130dpi - I couldn't get a virtual desktop of 3080x1050 with a modeline of 1400x1050 for the CRT, X11 always created a 3360x1050 virtual desktop, i.e. double the size of the lvds - most importantly: I can't start either XFC4 or KDE3 session from that xterm or from kdm. As soon as they're up and running the 2nd head is switched off and when I set a mode on it again and then use xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS to put it on the left side of the lvds, but that just makes the whole screen go blank :( Maybe this is a xfce/kde issue? I'd appreciate any input on any of the three. Andreas -- You now have Asian Flu. # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xfree86 package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xfree86 # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following commands as root: # # cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom # md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/TrueType FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-xfree86-nonfree FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 EndSection Section Module Loadsynaptics Loaddbe Loaddri SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga EndSubSection Loadfreetype Loadtype1 Loadvbe Loadshadow EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option AutoRepeat500 30 Option XkbOptions grp:ctrls_toggle,ctrl:ctrl_aa,grp_led:scroll,compose:caps Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel cymotionlinux Option XkbLayout us,de(nodeadkeys) Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse2 Driver synaptics Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/gpmdata Option Protocol auto-dev Option LeftEdge 1700 Option RightEdge 5300 Option TopEdge 1700 Option BottomEdge4200 Option FingerLow 25 Option FingerHigh30 Option MaxTapTime180 Option MaxTapMove220 Option VertScrollDelta 100 Option MinSpeed 0.06 Option MaxSpeed 0.12 Option SHMConfig true Option AccelFactor 0.0010 Option UpDownScrolling yes Option LockedDrags on # Option Emulate3Buttons yes # Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # Option Resolution400 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Device
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
Andreas Pakulat wrote: - the dpi setting seems to be set wrongly, I've got a 332x205 laptop display (mm) and a 365x275 mm CRT. And xorg sets 96dpi and xrandr tells me that the screen size is actually 888x220 mmm??? Right would be something like 130dpi There are some known problems like this one, I think it is being worked on upstream. - I couldn't get a virtual desktop of 3080x1050 with a modeline of 1400x1050 for the CRT, X11 always created a 3360x1050 virtual desktop, i.e. double the size of the lvds Not sure about this, maybe the ATI driver insists on using such a size. If the latest upstream git of the driver does this, it might be worth sending the corresponding config and log on bugzilla.freedesktop.org. - most importantly: I can't start either XFC4 or KDE3 session from that xterm or from kdm. As soon as they're up and running the 2nd head is switched off and when I set a mode on it again and then use xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS to put it on the left side of the lvds, but that just makes the whole screen go blank :( Maybe this is a xfce/kde issue? If starting with KDE/XFC works fine on both heads, I would guess that KDE/XFC does some incorrect RandR 1.2 calls at startup. It is hard to be sure. Did you check in the corresponding KDE/XFC configuration utilities? Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
On Freitag, 2. November 2007, Brice Goglin wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: - the dpi setting seems to be set wrongly, I've got a 332x205 laptop display (mm) and a 365x275 mm CRT. And xorg sets 96dpi and xrandr tells me that the screen size is actually 888x220 mmm??? Right would be something like 130dpi There are some known problems like this one, I think it is being worked on upstream. Well, current git still shows this behaviour. I guess the problem is that the driver doesn't read the EDID information properly or some such. - I couldn't get a virtual desktop of 3080x1050 with a modeline of 1400x1050 for the CRT, X11 always created a 3360x1050 virtual desktop, i.e. double the size of the lvds Not sure about this, maybe the ATI driver insists on using such a size. I hope note, its quite annoying to have this 1680x1050 resolution on a standard 4:3 CRT, the font is stretched quite a bit. Or does XRandR support non-rectangular desktops, i.e. using 1680x1200 on the CRT and 1680x1050 on the LVDS? If the latest upstream git of the driver does this, it might be worth sending the corresponding config and log on bugzilla.freedesktop.org. Yeah, latest git doesn't help here. I've filed an upstream bugreport (not sure if I should reference it via forwarded-upstream): https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13067 - most importantly: I can't start either XFC4 or KDE3 session from that xterm or from kdm. As soon as they're up and running the 2nd head is switched off and when I set a mode on it again and then use xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS to put it on the left side of the lvds, but that just makes the whole screen go blank :( Maybe this is a xfce/kde issue? If starting with KDE/XFC works fine on both heads, I would guess that KDE/XFC does some incorrect RandR 1.2 calls at startup. It is hard to be sure. Did you check in the corresponding KDE/XFC configuration utilities? Not sure about xfce4, but the kde startup script actually stored the layout of my screens and reloaded that using xrandr during session startup. I'll file a bugreport about that with KDE. Not sure what to do about this report, I can now at least use the new Xorg with XRandR, though there's still the outstanding issues of desktop-size and the dpi-settings... Andreas -- You are scrupulously honest, frank, and straightforward. Therefore you have few friends. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
On Freitag, 2. November 2007, Brice Goglin wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: - most importantly: I can't start either XFC4 or KDE3 session from that xterm or from kdm. As soon as they're up and running the 2nd head is switched off and when I set a mode on it again and then use xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS to put it on the left side of the lvds, but that just makes the whole screen go blank :( Maybe this is a xfce/kde issue? If starting with KDE/XFC works fine on both heads, I would guess that KDE/XFC does some incorrect RandR 1.2 calls at startup. It is hard to be sure. Did you check in the corresponding KDE/XFC configuration utilities? I'd like to add that the display doesn't always go blank when running xrandr --left-of, sometimes it just creates garbage on the 2nd head. Bugreport for that is here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 Andreas -- You display the wonderful traits of charm and courtesy. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
Andreas Pakulat wrote: I tried to find howtos in the net, but there were onyl few, the attached xorg.conf is what I'm using right now. As soon as I remove the comments from the Options in the Device section Xorg doesn't start anymore, telling me that Screen's were found but none of them had a usable configuration. Using the config as is, does come up with the Laptop display working properly, however I can't activate the VGA. All I get from xrandr is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~xrandr xrandr: Output VGA-0 is not disconnected but has no modes Google leads me to believe that I should disable the S-video output, but trying that just gives me the same information, without any change: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~xrandr --output S-video --off xrandr: Output VGA-0 is not disconnected but has no modes Unplugging the CRT and doing that doesn't change anything either. The second attached Xorg log is from a failing start with the 3 monitor-lines activated. Andreas, who now has to downgrade X11 again :( This seems very similar to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=439322 You might want to try latest upstream git snapshot, TV-out should be disabled by default there, so you might get some modes from VGA by default. And finally, it would be good to send the output of xrandr, with and without with TV-out disabled *at startup* (either in xorg.conf or with a recent driver where TV-out does not get enabled automatically). Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
On 18.09.07 23:25:13, Brice Goglin wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: I tried to find howtos in the net, but there were onyl few, the attached xorg.conf is what I'm using right now. As soon as I remove the comments from the Options in the Device section Xorg doesn't start anymore, telling me that Screen's were found but none of them had a usable configuration. Using the config as is, does come up with the Laptop display working properly, however I can't activate the VGA. All I get from xrandr is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~xrandr xrandr: Output VGA-0 is not disconnected but has no modes Google leads me to believe that I should disable the S-video output, but trying that just gives me the same information, without any change: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~xrandr --output S-video --off xrandr: Output VGA-0 is not disconnected but has no modes Unplugging the CRT and doing that doesn't change anything either. The second attached Xorg log is from a failing start with the 3 monitor-lines activated. Andreas, who now has to downgrade X11 again :( This seems very similar to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=439322 Indeed, let me do another test and eventually I'll merge the bug into the existing one (I seem to have overlooked that one while scanning the buglist) You might want to try latest upstream git snapshot, TV-out should be disabled by default there, so you might get some modes from VGA by default. Ok. And finally, it would be good to send the output of xrandr, with and without with TV-out disabled *at startup* (either in xorg.conf or with a recent driver where TV-out does not get enabled automatically). I guess I wasn't clear: I don't get X11 to start when I use any of the monitor-Options. Not even if I just include the one for disabling Tv-Out. And when I start without them, xrandr _always_ just complains about the VGA-0 being connected but no modes being available, no matter what xrandr call I use (including xrandr --output S-video --off). Andreas -- You will be the last person to buy a Chrysler. pgpviwhzp4rSh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
On 18.09.07 23:25:13, Brice Goglin wrote: Andreas Pakulat wrote: I tried to find howtos in the net, but there were onyl few, the attached xorg.conf is what I'm using right now. As soon as I remove the comments from the Options in the Device section Xorg doesn't start anymore, telling me that Screen's were found but none of them had a usable configuration. Using the config as is, does come up with the Laptop display working properly, however I can't activate the VGA. All I get from xrandr is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~xrandr xrandr: Output VGA-0 is not disconnected but has no modes Google leads me to believe that I should disable the S-video output, but trying that just gives me the same information, without any change: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~xrandr --output S-video --off xrandr: Output VGA-0 is not disconnected but has no modes Unplugging the CRT and doing that doesn't change anything either. The second attached Xorg log is from a failing start with the 3 monitor-lines activated. Andreas, who now has to downgrade X11 again :( This seems very similar to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=439322 You might want to try latest upstream git snapshot, TV-out should be disabled by default there, so you might get some modes from VGA by default. And finally, it would be good to send the output of xrandr, with and without with TV-out disabled *at startup* (either in xorg.conf or with a recent driver where TV-out does not get enabled automatically). Ok, so I tried with the git snapshot from git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati but there are no changes compared to the debian experimental package. One thing I just noticed though: x11-utils changelog doesn't mention xrandr 1.2.2 it only mentions 1.2.0, so may I have a too-old xrandr? Andreas -- Love is in the offing. Be affectionate to one who adores you. pgpvgKVa69aiX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#443122: xserver-xorg-video-ati: dualhead setup not possible with xrandr1.2
Andreas Pakulat wrote: One thing I just noticed though: x11-utils changelog doesn't mention xrandr 1.2.2 it only mentions 1.2.0, so may I have a too-old xrandr? x11-xserver-utils (7.2-2) experimental; urgency=low * Add xrandr 1.2.2. You probably have 7.3+1, right? So it should be fine. Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
