Re: [SUMMARY] Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
El viernes, 12 de mayo de 2006 07:33, Christian Perrier escribió: If shared work is planned, I indeed propose to commit the new templates in the SVN so that concurrent editing is possible. Would you have a problem with this? I'll leave for debconf tomorrow and, given the network problems there, I'm not sure that most work will be possible about this issue...We'll see..:) I heard that they had problems to have Internet access. If David finally wants to push the templates, either he or I can make the work, we have your nice patch. :-) You could, anyway, send a unified patch to the list for easing things. Best regards, and have a good time in MEX, Ender. -- - If my grandfather Everglot were to see this, he'd be rolling in his grave! - Finnis...where do you keep the spirits? [shakes wine glass] - AAA! -- Finnis, dead Grandfather and Maudeline Everglot (Corpse Bride) -- Desarrollador de Debian Debian developer pgphjB61JsuiE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SUMMARY] Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 07:33:33AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Please hold off. I haven't had a chance to review them over the past 24 hours, nor am I going to have the time for at least a few more days due to a very high workload in real life. I'll do my best to set aside some time to read over them this weekend though. Fine. The main intent of this SUMMARY was indeed saying hey, if you want more time, please say soso, no problem at all, of course. If shared work is planned, I indeed propose to commit the new templates in the SVN so that concurrent editing is possible. Would you have a problem with this? I'll leave for debconf tomorrow and, given the network problems there, I'm not sure that most work will be possible about this issue...We'll see..:) Ok, if you still haven't grabbed your sombrero and hopped on a plane, go ahead an commit and I'll just review the diff :-) If not, as David said, feel free to post a patch and one of us two David's will review and commit it while you're gone. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SUMMARY] Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
No more comments about these proposed changes ? I integrated the few corrections that were mentioned (replacing Frenglish experimented by Oxfordglish experienced). If no mor ecomments come, I'm likely to commit the new templates on tomorrow and then send a call for translation updates. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SUMMARY] Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 05:59:52PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: No more comments about these proposed changes?? I integrated the few corrections that were mentioned (replacing Frenglish experimented by Oxfordglish experienced). If no mor ecomments come, I'm likely to commit the new templates on tomorrow and then send a call for translation updates. Please hold off. I haven't had a chance to review them over the past 24 hours, nor am I going to have the time for at least a few more days due to a very high workload in real life. I'll do my best to set aside some time to read over them this weekend though. Also note that I'm considering adding a new debconf warning template to deal with #363169 because I've yet to come up with a good workaround in the packaging. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SUMMARY] Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
Please hold off. I haven't had a chance to review them over the past 24 hours, nor am I going to have the time for at least a few more days due to a very high workload in real life. I'll do my best to set aside some time to read over them this weekend though. Fine. The main intent of this SUMMARY was indeed saying hey, if you want more time, please say soso, no problem at all, of course. If shared work is planned, I indeed propose to commit the new templates in the SVN so that concurrent editing is possible. Would you have a problem with this? I'll leave for debconf tomorrow and, given the network problems there, I'm not sure that most work will be possible about this issue...We'll see..:) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
I already mentioned here and there that the xorg package debconf
templates do not follow the recommendations given in the developer's
reference, which are mostly aimed at achieving overall writing style
consistency in questions seen by users.
Attached to this mail is a rewrite of the two .templates files
currently used in xorg's SVN.
I included a diff file for both and both individual files. All
compressed for size reasonssorry if that make quoting a little
more complicated for some of you.
I've just subscribed to debian-x to follow the discussion in case
comments are made (and I hope there'll be some!).
As those of you who know me well can guess, I also propose to handle
the translation update round that will follow if these changes (or
even some of them) are applied...
Rationale, change by change (similar changes are explained only once):
--- xserver-xorg.templates 2006-04-30 11:06:31.871744456 +0200
+++ xserver-xorg.templates.rewritten2006-05-09 23:06:37.290466048 +0200
@@ -2,48 +2,50 @@
Type: boolean
Default: true
_Description: Attempt to autodetect video hardware?
- Accept this option if you would like to attempt to autodetect the recommended
- X server and driver module for your video card. If autodetection fails, you
+ You should choose this option if you would like to attempt to autodetect the
recommended
+ X server and driver module for your video card. If the autodetection fails,
you
Change Accept this option to choose this option to fit the most
recent widely used writing style (see a recent report by a user
explaining that Accept/Decline is confusing).
Add the which seems to make better English to me (?)
will be asked to specify the desired X server and/or driver module. If
- autodetection succeeds, further debconf questions about your video hardware
+ it succeeds, further configuration questions about your video hardware
Avoid repetition.
will be pre-answered.
.
- If you would rather select the X server and driver module yourself, decline
+ If you would rather select the X server and driver module yourself, do not
choose
Decline-writing style consistency
Type: note
-_Description: No X server known for your video hardware.
- Either you have no video hardware installed on this machine (serial console
- only?), or the discover program was unable to determine which X server is
- appropriate for your video hardware. This could be due to incomplete
- information in discover's hardware database, or it could be that your video
- hardware is simply not supported by any available X servers.
+_Description: No X server known for your video hardware
Dev. Ref.: short descriptions for notes should be treated as titles
and are thus not sentences (no final dot)
+ There is either no video hardware installed on this machine (e.g. serial
console
+ only), or the discover program was unable to determine which X server is
+ appropriate for the video hardware. This could be due to incomplete
+ information in discover's hardware database, or because your video
+ hardware is not supported by the available X servers.
Remove you have and most possessive formulation to a more neutral
writing style
Multiple video cards have been detected, and different X servers are required
to support the various devices. It is thus not possible to automatically
- select a default X server. Please configure the device that will serve as
- your computer's primary head; this is generally the video card and monitor
- to which the computer displays when it first boots.
+ select a default X server.
+ .
+ Please configure the device that will serve as
+ this computer's primary head; this is generally the video card and monitor
+ used for display when the computer is booted up.
Split a sentence in a separate paragraph to ease the translator's work
(this sentence is used twice)
.
- At the present time, only a single-headed setup is supported by debconf;
- however, the X server configuration files can be edited to support a
+ The configuration process currently only supports single-headed setups;
+ however, the X server configuration files can be edited later to support a
No specific reference to debconf.
Add later to be clearer about when the changes can be made.
multi-head configuration.
Template: shared/default-x-server
Type: select
Choices: ${choices}
-_Description: Select the desired default X server.
- The X server is the hardware interface of the X Window System. Its job is to
- communicate with video display and input devices, providing a foundation for
+_Description: Desired default X server:
Implement Dev. Ref: Select questions should be prompts
+ The X server is the hardware interface of the X Window System. It
+ communicates with the video display and input devices, providing a foundation
for
Be factual. The server communicates so let's say this simply..:-)
the chosen Graphical User Interface (GUI).
.
Several X servers may be available; the
Re: Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 08:21:52AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: I personnally prefer experimented over advanced because advanced is negative towards other users. What is experimented user? Did you mean experienced? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
El miércoles, 10 de mayo de 2006 11:07, Stepan Golosunov escribió: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 08:21:52AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: I personnally prefer experimented over advanced because advanced is negative towards other users. What is experimented user? Did you mean experienced? Heh, I think so. In French/Spanish, we would say experimented, as we do not have different forms for this word as English has. :-) Ender. -- Los sistemas me pasado los correos de las personas contradas pero los @red.es. -- Jesús Sanz de las Heras (RedIRIS). -- Desarrollador de Debian Debian developer pgpQTniI3mwFt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
El miércoles, 10 de mayo de 2006 08:21, Christian Perrier escribió: I already mentioned here and there that the xorg package debconf templates do not follow the recommendations given in the developer's reference, which are mostly aimed at achieving overall writing style consistency in questions seen by users. Attached to this mail is a rewrite of the two .templates files currently used in xorg's SVN. I included a diff file for both and both individual files. All compressed for size reasonssorry if that make quoting a little more complicated for some of you. I've just subscribed to debian-x to follow the discussion in case comments are made (and I hope there'll be some!). As those of you who know me well can guess, I also propose to handle the translation update round that will follow if these changes (or even some of them) are applied... Rationale, change by change (similar changes are explained only once): I do not have any problem with the proposed changes. Best regards, Ender. -- Another C-3PO: E chu ta! C-3PO: How rude! -- C-3PO (The Empire Strikes Back). -- Desarrollador de Debian Debian developer pgpj7Rxy86AEE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proposed debconf templates rewrite to follow the Developer's Reference 6.5
Quoting Stepan Golosunov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 08:21:52AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: I personnally prefer experimented over advanced because advanced is negative towards other users. What is experimented user? Did you mean experienced? Yep. Guess why I have proposed the rewrite for review...:-) /me happily s/experimented/experienced signature.asc Description: Digital signature
