Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
I've noticed the bug since XFree-4.1 is in woody. using the ati-module from the XFree-4.0 packages worked it out for some time, but after the last XFree-uptate it became even worse with the last X-Server update. So I've tracked it down to the WMCPU applet as I reported. And: no, it doesn't need a WindowMaker to be running to crash the server, but it might need some libs (the libdockap afaik) Willi
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
I've noticed the bug since XFree-4.1 is in woody. using the ati-module from the XFree-4.0 packages worked it out for some time, but after the last XFree-uptate it became even worse with the last X-Server update. So I've tracked it down to the WMCPU applet as I reported. And: no, it doesn't need a WindowMaker to be running to crash the server, but it might need some libs (the libdockap afaik) Willi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Dave Swegen wrote: > Crashes X. If I remember correctly my laptop (which has an ATI > mobility-1) seemed OK until I upgraded to 4.1.0. Looking at > http://bugs.debian.org/wmcpu there are about three bugs that are probably > caused by the same thing. Restarting X works fine. > > Quite bizarre. Last I checked, it crashed X4 for me on a sid with nv. But I have no problems with it on X3/woody/mga. Bizarre indeed. Cheers, Cristian
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:47:30PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave Swegen wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell > > > > > > me > > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > > It's wmcpu : > > > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > > > >Crashes X or crashes your machine? I don't see anything unusual > in the code other than it uses the shape extension. It is reading > proc files however so maybe it's a linux kernel bug if it's crashing > your machine. The application: Crashes X. If I remember correctly my laptop (which has an ATI mobility-1) seemed OK until I upgraded to 4.1.0. Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/wmcpu there are about three bugs that are probably caused by the same thing. Restarting X works fine. Quite bizarre. Cheers Dave
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:47:30PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave Swegen wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > > It's wmcpu : > > > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > > > >Crashes X or crashes your machine? I don't see anything unusual > in the code other than it uses the shape extension. It is reading > proc files however so maybe it's a linux kernel bug if it's crashing > your machine. The application: Crashes X. If I remember correctly my laptop (which has an ATI mobility-1) seemed OK until I upgraded to 4.1.0. Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/wmcpu there are about three bugs that are probably caused by the same thing. Restarting X works fine. Quite bizarre. Cheers Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and > > > > > > > tell me > > > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > > > It's wmcpu : > > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > > > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > > > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > > Yup. I've gotten reports of this from mga and nv driver users as well. > > Whoever tracks this one down should get a prize. > I see. Well, I'm into Slackware myself, so privately send me an > un-Debian-ised tarball of wmcpu source, and I'll see what I can dig up. Cancel that request, thanks to Mark V. However, it's still not crashing for me. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals.
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave Swegen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > It's wmcpu : > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > Crashes X or crashes your machine? I don't see anything unusual in the code other than it uses the shape extension. It is reading proc files however so maybe it's a linux kernel bug if it's crashing your machine. The application: http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_5159.html doesn't display anything on my system, so maybe you need window maker running for it to work. Mark.
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell > > > > > > me > > > > > > were to go. > > > > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > > It's wmcpu : > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > Yup. I've gotten reports of this from mga and nv driver users as well. > Whoever tracks this one down should get a prize. I see. Well, I'm into Slackware myself, so privately send me an un-Debian-ised tarball of wmcpu source, and I'll see what I can dig up. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals.
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > > > It's wmcpu : > > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > > > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > > > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > > Yup. I've gotten reports of this from mga and nv driver users as well. > > Whoever tracks this one down should get a prize. > I see. Well, I'm into Slackware myself, so privately send me an > un-Debian-ised tarball of wmcpu source, and I'll see what I can dig up. Cancel that request, thanks to Mark V. However, it's still not crashing for me. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:15:40PM +, Dave Swegen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > It's wmcpu : > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. Yup. I've gotten reports of this from mga and nv driver users as well. Whoever tracks this one down should get a prize. -- G. Branden Robinson| Psychology is really biology. Debian GNU/Linux | Biology is really chemistry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Chemistry is really physics. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | Physics is really math. pgpiwdPBsADde.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave Swegen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > It's wmcpu : > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > Crashes X or crashes your machine? I don't see anything unusual in the code other than it uses the shape extension. It is reading proc files however so maybe it's a linux kernel bug if it's crashing your machine. The application: http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_5159.html doesn't display anything on my system, so maybe you need window maker running for it to work. Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > > were to go. > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > > It's wmcpu : > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. > Yup. I've gotten reports of this from mga and nv driver users as well. > Whoever tracks this one down should get a prize. I see. Well, I'm into Slackware myself, so privately send me an un-Debian-ised tarball of wmcpu source, and I'll see what I can dig up. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > were to go. > > > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > It's wmcpu : wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. Cheers Dave
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:15:40PM +, Dave Swegen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > > were to go. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > > It's wmcpu : > > wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my > machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had > problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. Yup. I've gotten reports of this from mga and nv driver users as well. Whoever tracks this one down should get a prize. -- G. Branden Robinson| Psychology is really biology. Debian GNU/Linux | Biology is really chemistry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Chemistry is really physics. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | Physics is really math. msg03365/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > were to go. > > Xpert@XFree86.Org > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > It's wmcpu : > (gdb) run -ac -nolisten tcp :1.0 > > on other Term: > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > wmcpu > ... > some console-switching... > (II) ATI(0): Shutting down Xvideo subsystems > > Program received signal SIGUSR1, User defined signal 1. > 0x4012b774 in __umoddi3 () from /lib/libc.so.6 > (gdb) cont > Continuing. > (==) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xfd00,0x80) > (II) ATI(0): Reinitializing Xvideo subsystems > (==) Wacom tablet model : KT-0405-R00 V1.3-6 > Wacom unable to read first byte of request '~R' answer after 3 tries > WACOM: unable to reread resolution. Using previous values. > (==) Wacom IV tablet maximum X=6150 maximum Y=4550 X resolution=1270 Y re > > 5 to 10 minutes letting wmcpu show my cpu-load > and: > ... > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0858d687 in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x0858d687 in ?? () > #1 0x08593902 in ?? () > #2 0x08593ee8 in ?? () > #3 0x085942a9 in ?? () > #4 0x08594370 in ?? () > #5 0x084913ce in ?? () > #6 0x080af6ae in ?? () > #7 0x080ad5b6 in ?? () > #8 0x080bd70b in ?? () > #9 0x4007a65f in vfprintf () from /lib/libc.so.6 > (gdb) This backtrace might be misleading, but at this point in gdb do call LoaderPrintSymbol(address) ... for every address gdb reports as ?? above. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals.
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 09:56:04AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > > were to go. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > > > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > > It's wmcpu : wmcpu does some sort of nasty stuff and reliably crashes X on all my machines. And it is not an ATI driver thing - the tdfx driver had problems with it too. Avoid like the plague. Cheers Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1-6 crashes on Notebook with ati Grafik card
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Wilfried Goesgens wrote: > > > Please excuse me, if I'm wrong here with my problems here and tell me > > > were to go. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The ati driver maintainer reads that list. > well, I didn't receive any response from that. > Now I've Isolated the program that causes the Crash: > It's wmcpu : > (gdb) run -ac -nolisten tcp :1.0 > > on other Term: > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > wmcpu > ... > some console-switching... > (II) ATI(0): Shutting down Xvideo subsystems > > Program received signal SIGUSR1, User defined signal 1. > 0x4012b774 in __umoddi3 () from /lib/libc.so.6 > (gdb) cont > Continuing. > (==) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xfd00,0x80) > (II) ATI(0): Reinitializing Xvideo subsystems > (==) Wacom tablet model : KT-0405-R00 V1.3-6 > Wacom unable to read first byte of request '~R' answer after 3 tries > WACOM: unable to reread resolution. Using previous values. > (==) Wacom IV tablet maximum X=6150 maximum Y=4550 X resolution=1270 Y re > > 5 to 10 minutes letting wmcpu show my cpu-load > and: > ... > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0858d687 in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x0858d687 in ?? () > #1 0x08593902 in ?? () > #2 0x08593ee8 in ?? () > #3 0x085942a9 in ?? () > #4 0x08594370 in ?? () > #5 0x084913ce in ?? () > #6 0x080af6ae in ?? () > #7 0x080ad5b6 in ?? () > #8 0x080bd70b in ?? () > #9 0x4007a65f in vfprintf () from /lib/libc.so.6 > (gdb) This backtrace might be misleading, but at this point in gdb do call LoaderPrintSymbol(address) ... for every address gdb reports as ?? above. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
