Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
>
> Weird. I just upgraded to -11 and when xdm starts, the login widget shows
> up as a blank box. Even weirder, switching to a text console and back
> suddenly brings the text back! (Except that it cleared the background to
> white in the process) Everything seems to work OK now, but earlier on, on
> my first attempt to restart X, the X server crashed after I logged in.
>
Yup, that is the bug that I'm seeing.
I haven't tried switching to text mode and back: but I just found out
that changing resolutions and changing back (e.g. CTRL-ALT-{+,-}) also
works.
It seems that some kind of video initialization is not being called
when the server first starts.
-BenRI
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Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
>
> Weird. I just upgraded to -11 and when xdm starts, the login widget shows
> up as a blank box. Even weirder, switching to a text console and back
> suddenly brings the text back! (Except that it cleared the background to
> white in the process) Everything seems to work OK now, but earlier on, on
> my first attempt to restart X, the X server crashed after I logged in.
>
Yup, that is the bug that I'm seeing.
I haven't tried switching to text mode and back: but I just found out
that changing resolutions and changing back (e.g. CTRL-ALT-{+,-}) also
works.
It seems that some kind of video initialization is not being called
when the server first starts.
-BenRI
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Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 05:54:22PM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > > > > Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X > > server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts > > up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've > > been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared and > > everything goes to normal. > > This is a bit different than my problem: > ALL my applications fail at ALL points. (OK, actually I guess the > applications that fail are: icewm, GNOME, gdm, and gnome-terminal). For > some reason, the arrow on the menus in icewm still work, though no text > is shown. Weird. I just upgraded to -11 and when xdm starts, the login widget shows up as a blank box. Even weirder, switching to a text console and back suddenly brings the text back! (Except that it cleared the background to white in the process) Everything seems to work OK now, but earlier on, on my first attempt to restart X, the X server crashed after I logged in. > YOUR problem may be that you have not added the line > "VideoRAM 4096" > to you card specification? If X tries to use all 8 megs, then screen > redraws become somewhat untrustworthy. X 3.3.x automagically only used > 4M on 8M cards, but on 4.0.1 you have to do this manually it seems. No, my XF86Config-4 explicitly states "VideoRam 4096", and I'm still getting the same problem with Scavenger. In fact, it still does the same thing right now, after that text-console-switching weirdness I just described. So, although your problem probably isn't caused by gdm, I suspect Scavenger has a bug (or perhaps library incompatibility?) [snip] > This IS the same card I think: I got the model number from /proc/pci, I > think it is also called a 6326. OK, I thought so... the numbers look too similar to be a coincidence anyway :-) > So, in summary, this is NOT a bug against gdm, but a bug in the > xserver. [snip] Hmm. Might it have anything to do with what I described? Sounds like we're experiencing the same problem. Try switching to a text VC and back, and see if that helps. It worked for me (tm), YMMV. T -- Winners never quit, quitters never win. But those who never quit AND never win are idiots. pgpVTajka01BJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
> > Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X > server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts > up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've > been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared and > everything goes to normal. This is a bit different than my problem: ALL my applications fail at ALL points. (OK, actually I guess the applications that fail are: icewm, GNOME, gdm, and gnome-terminal). For some reason, the arrow on the menus in icewm still work, though no text is shown. YOUR problem may be that you have not added the line "VideoRAM 4096" to you card specification? If X tries to use all 8 megs, then screen redraws become somewhat untrustworthy. X 3.3.x automagically only used 4M on 8M cards, but on 4.0.1 you have to do this manually it seems. > I also use a SiS chipset, but it's the 6326 not the 86C326 (or are they > the same thing?). I'm not sure if this problem is chipset-specific, but I > don't know for sure. This IS the same card I think: I got the model number from /proc/pci, I think it is also called a 6326. So, in summary, this is NOT a bug against gdm, but a bug in the xserver. -BenRI -- q
Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 05:54:22PM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > > > > Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X > > server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts > > up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've > > been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared and > > everything goes to normal. > > This is a bit different than my problem: > ALL my applications fail at ALL points. (OK, actually I guess the > applications that fail are: icewm, GNOME, gdm, and gnome-terminal). For > some reason, the arrow on the menus in icewm still work, though no text > is shown. Weird. I just upgraded to -11 and when xdm starts, the login widget shows up as a blank box. Even weirder, switching to a text console and back suddenly brings the text back! (Except that it cleared the background to white in the process) Everything seems to work OK now, but earlier on, on my first attempt to restart X, the X server crashed after I logged in. > YOUR problem may be that you have not added the line > "VideoRAM 4096" > to you card specification? If X tries to use all 8 megs, then screen > redraws become somewhat untrustworthy. X 3.3.x automagically only used > 4M on 8M cards, but on 4.0.1 you have to do this manually it seems. No, my XF86Config-4 explicitly states "VideoRam 4096", and I'm still getting the same problem with Scavenger. In fact, it still does the same thing right now, after that text-console-switching weirdness I just described. So, although your problem probably isn't caused by gdm, I suspect Scavenger has a bug (or perhaps library incompatibility?) [snip] > This IS the same card I think: I got the model number from /proc/pci, I > think it is also called a 6326. OK, I thought so... the numbers look too similar to be a coincidence anyway :-) > So, in summary, this is NOT a bug against gdm, but a bug in the > xserver. [snip] Hmm. Might it have anything to do with what I described? Sounds like we're experiencing the same problem. Try switching to a text VC and back, and see if that helps. It worked for me (tm), YMMV. T -- Winners never quit, quitters never win. But those who never quit AND never win are idiots. PGP signature
Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
> > Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X > server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts > up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've > been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared and > everything goes to normal. This is a bit different than my problem: ALL my applications fail at ALL points. (OK, actually I guess the applications that fail are: icewm, GNOME, gdm, and gnome-terminal). For some reason, the arrow on the menus in icewm still work, though no text is shown. YOUR problem may be that you have not added the line "VideoRAM 4096" to you card specification? If X tries to use all 8 megs, then screen redraws become somewhat untrustworthy. X 3.3.x automagically only used 4M on 8M cards, but on 4.0.1 you have to do this manually it seems. > I also use a SiS chipset, but it's the 6326 not the 86C326 (or are they > the same thing?). I'm not sure if this problem is chipset-specific, but I > don't know for sure. This IS the same card I think: I got the model number from /proc/pci, I think it is also called a 6326. So, in summary, this is NOT a bug against gdm, but a bug in the xserver. -BenRI -- q -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:14:13AM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > Hello all, > I have been using the new X server packages, and have been quite happy, > up through 4.0.1-10. However, when I ran gdm after installing 4.0.1-11, > the image was missing - it was replaced in fact by a bit of a dilbert > comic that I had been looking at when running 4.0.1-10. Also, no text [snip] Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared and everything goes to normal. I've glanced over the source code of X Scavenger, and it appears to be a problem with the screen-clearing routine. Perhaps an undocumented feature (i.e., bug) of X 3.3.* that was "fixed" in 4.0.1? I suspect it's a 3.3.* bug because Scavenger exhibits similar problems when compiled on a Solaris workstation -- which leads me to suspect that it's relying on an old (broken) behaviour of the X libraries. If so, then I'd file a bug against gdm. (But of course, I didn't spend much time to look into this, so I might be totally off to lunch here.) I also use a SiS chipset, but it's the 6326 not the 86C326 (or are they the same thing?). I'm not sure if this problem is chipset-specific, but I don't know for sure. T -- INTEL = Only half of "intelligence". pgpEtcqGy1LZT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 4.0.1-11 breaks text and images on SiS 86C326
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:14:13AM -0800, Benjamin Redelings I wrote: > Hello all, > I have been using the new X server packages, and have been quite happy, > up through 4.0.1-10. However, when I ran gdm after installing 4.0.1-11, > the image was missing - it was replaced in fact by a bit of a dilbert > comic that I had been looking at when running 4.0.1-10. Also, no text [snip] Very interestingly, I experience a similar problem under the 4.0.1 X server with the game X Scavenger (xscavenger). When Scavenger first starts up, the outer borders of the window are leftover bits of comics that I've been looking at. When I start the game, though, the screen is cleared and everything goes to normal. I've glanced over the source code of X Scavenger, and it appears to be a problem with the screen-clearing routine. Perhaps an undocumented feature (i.e., bug) of X 3.3.* that was "fixed" in 4.0.1? I suspect it's a 3.3.* bug because Scavenger exhibits similar problems when compiled on a Solaris workstation -- which leads me to suspect that it's relying on an old (broken) behaviour of the X libraries. If so, then I'd file a bug against gdm. (But of course, I didn't spend much time to look into this, so I might be totally off to lunch here.) I also use a SiS chipset, but it's the 6326 not the 86C326 (or are they the same thing?). I'm not sure if this problem is chipset-specific, but I don't know for sure. T -- INTEL = Only half of "intelligence". PGP signature
