Re: 7.1 protos up-to-date in experimental - ready for unstable?

2006-08-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 14:37 +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
 
 If we're happy to live without xf86rushproto, then can we now bring the
 outstanding experimental proto packages across to unstable?

Not without dealing with at least one issue, I think: Anyone remember
what happened when David accidentally uploaded packages built against
x11proto-fixes-dev 4.0, then people tried running the binaries against
libxfixes3 1:3.0.x? I think the x11proto-fixes-dev Conflicts:
libxfixes-dev probably needs bumping to ( 1:4.0) or similar, etc.


 p.s. in case you're wondering why I'm in such a rush to get 7.1 from
 experimental to unstable, some serious improvements have been made in
 drivers (especially i810) which I'd like to see as soon as possible.

While it should be possible to use the current xf86-video-intel with
xorg-server 1.0, as Daniel pointed out, there's no question that moving
to 7.1 would rid us of a lot of upstream issues.


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Re: 7.1 protos up-to-date in experimental - ready for unstable?

2006-08-02 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 02:37:20PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
 All existing x11proto packages are up to date for X11R7.1, either in
 unstable or in experimental.  x11proto-core is ahead of schedule, at
 latest v7.0.7 rather than 7.1's v7.0.5.
 
 Debian does not contain a x11proto package for  xf86rushproto,
 applewmproto, or  windowswmproto, the latter for obvious reasons.  I
 gather we don't need xf86rushproto?
 
 If we're happy to live without xf86rushproto, then can we now bring the
 outstanding experimental proto packages across to unstable?  This is the
 necessary precursor required before we can bring experimental 7.1 libs
 to unstable, which in turn are needed before we can update xserver.

I'd much rather have the libs and preferrably the server and drivers ready
in experimental first. Especially since those will be the first serious
test of the protocol headers. Not that I'm worried about the headers, but I
don't see a big gain in moving the protocol headers in ahead of the libs
right now. The key is to get the functional parts (libs, server, drivers)
working anyway, so pushing ahead with that is more important.

 - David Nusinow


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Re: 7.1 protos up-to-date in experimental - ready for unstable?

2006-08-01 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 02:37:20PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
 Debian does not contain a x11proto package for  xf86rushproto,
 applewmproto, or  windowswmproto, the latter for obvious reasons.  I
 gather we don't need xf86rushproto?
 
 If we're happy to live without xf86rushproto, then can we now bring the
 outstanding experimental proto packages across to unstable?  This is the
 necessary precursor required before we can bring experimental 7.1 libs
 to unstable, which in turn are needed before we can update xserver.

Nope, we don't need any of those three.  AppleWM is only required on
Darwin, WindowsWM on Windows, and the whole XF86Rush extension has been
deprecated because it was complete crack.  libxxf86rush should similarly
disappear, if someone took the initiative to package it (it was never in
Ubuntu).

 p.s. in case you're wondering why I'm in such a rush to get 7.1 from
 experimental to unstable, some serious improvements have been made in
 drivers (especially i810) which I'd like to see as soon as possible. I'm
 sick of my video card crashing all the time :)

You know you can build the new i810 driver against the old xorg-server?
Modularisation, man!


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