Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 04:20:31AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I hadn't extensively played with it either, since I have a rather custom > config (dual head with fixed-frequency monitors). Though, it would be > nice if dexter could accept more monitor information, perhaps even a full > XFree86 modeline. Hopefully that kind of additional support could be > added later on. Barring overwhelming demand, I'm just not going to add this functionality. Dexter's success is going to depend on constraining its focus, which is getting the naive user without any X server configuration into X with a minimal requirement of knowledge about his/her hardware and certainly without any knowledge of the syntax of the XF86Config{-4} file. Modelines are the deepest of magic. If you want to play with them, then you belong in a text editor with the XF86Config{-4} file. > At least it doesn't overwrite XF86Config. =) Correct; the latest version will not overwrite without being told to do so. -- G. Branden Robinson | If a man ate a pound of pasta and a Debian GNU/Linux| pound of antipasto, would they cancel [EMAIL PROTECTED] | out, leaving him still hungry? http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Scott Adams pgpfgSHXVVMOs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 04:20:31AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I hadn't extensively played with it either, since I have a rather custom > config (dual head with fixed-frequency monitors). Though, it would be > nice if dexter could accept more monitor information, perhaps even a full > XFree86 modeline. Hopefully that kind of additional support could be > added later on. Barring overwhelming demand, I'm just not going to add this functionality. Dexter's success is going to depend on constraining its focus, which is getting the naive user without any X server configuration into X with a minimal requirement of knowledge about his/her hardware and certainly without any knowledge of the syntax of the XF86Config{-4} file. Modelines are the deepest of magic. If you want to play with them, then you belong in a text editor with the XF86Config{-4} file. > At least it doesn't overwrite XF86Config. =) Correct; the latest version will not overwrite without being told to do so. -- G. Branden Robinson | If a man ate a pound of pasta and a Debian GNU/Linux| pound of antipasto, would they cancel [EMAIL PROTECTED] | out, leaving him still hungry? http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Scott Adams PGP signature
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
I don't believe one of the immediate goals of dexter is to support multiple anything yet, but give it time. Drifting a little bit from topic, I'm thinking it would be nice to have a seperate user-mode input manager, that can communicate and pass input events across network connections. It should be able to handle any input device (keyboards, mice, game pads, dials and buttons, boxen, etc), map arbitrary events from one device type to another, forward or repeat events across the network, but I ramble. On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:34:21AM +0200, Morten B. Pedersen wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:26:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > > > mouse device. > > > > I think /dev/input/mice should be there too for USB mouse. It's this > > device that the USB guide on www.linux-usb.org refers to. > > And the one the kernel documentation (well linux/Documentation/usb/input.txt) > suggests. > > there is also talk about all the /dev/input/mouse0, /dev/input/mouse1, ... > but this would be usefull only for multiple mouses, and i have no experience > with it. > > Friendly, > > Sven LUTHER > > > > -- > > Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely > > Morten B. Pedersen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Copenhagen, Denmark. > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
I don't believe one of the immediate goals of dexter is to support multiple anything yet, but give it time. Drifting a little bit from topic, I'm thinking it would be nice to have a seperate user-mode input manager, that can communicate and pass input events across network connections. It should be able to handle any input device (keyboards, mice, game pads, dials and buttons, boxen, etc), map arbitrary events from one device type to another, forward or repeat events across the network, but I ramble. On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:34:21AM +0200, Morten B. Pedersen wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:26:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > > > mouse device. > > > > I think /dev/input/mice should be there too for USB mouse. It's this > > device that the USB guide on www.linux-usb.org refers to. > > And the one the kernel documentation (well linux/Documentation/usb/input.txt) > suggests. > > there is also talk about all the /dev/input/mouse0, /dev/input/mouse1, ... > but this would be usefull only for multiple mouses, and i have no experience > with it. > > Friendly, > > Sven LUTHER > > > > -- > > Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely > > Morten B. Pedersen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Copenhagen, Denmark. > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:34:21AM +0200, Morten B. Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:26:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > > mouse device. > > I think /dev/input/mice should be there too for USB mouse. It's this > device that the USB guide on www.linux-usb.org refers to. And the one the kernel documentation (well linux/Documentation/usb/input.txt) suggests. there is also talk about all the /dev/input/mouse0, /dev/input/mouse1, ... but this would be usefull only for multiple mouses, and i have no experience with it. Friendly, Sven LUTHER > > -- > Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely > Morten B. Pedersen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Copenhagen, Denmark. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:34:21AM +0200, Morten B. Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:26:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > > mouse device. > > I think /dev/input/mice should be there too for USB mouse. It's this > device that the USB guide on www.linux-usb.org refers to. And the one the kernel documentation (well linux/Documentation/usb/input.txt) suggests. there is also talk about all the /dev/input/mouse0, /dev/input/mouse1, ... but this would be usefull only for multiple mouses, and i have no experience with it. Friendly, Sven LUTHER > > -- > Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely > Morten B. Pedersen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Copenhagen, Denmark. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
I hadn't extensively played with it either, since I have a rather custom config (dual head with fixed-frequency monitors). Though, it would be nice if dexter could accept more monitor information, perhaps even a full XFree86 modeline. Hopefully that kind of additional support could be added later on. At least it doesn't overwrite XF86Config. =) On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Derek Witt wrote: > I'm using devfs in my case. I didn't see /dev/misc/psaux in dexter's list. > I had to link that to /dev/mouse to keep dexter happy. Then, I had to edit > /etc/X11/XF86Config to point to /dev/misc/psaux. Just a minor > inconvenience. But, I like the premise behind dexter (it reminds me of > xconfigurator from redhat). > > -- Derek J Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > > mouse device. > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
I hadn't extensively played with it either, since I have a rather custom config (dual head with fixed-frequency monitors). Though, it would be nice if dexter could accept more monitor information, perhaps even a full XFree86 modeline. Hopefully that kind of additional support could be added later on. At least it doesn't overwrite XF86Config. =) On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Derek Witt wrote: > I'm using devfs in my case. I didn't see /dev/misc/psaux in dexter's list. > I had to link that to /dev/mouse to keep dexter happy. Then, I had to edit > /etc/X11/XF86Config to point to /dev/misc/psaux. Just a minor > inconvenience. But, I like the premise behind dexter (it reminds me of > xconfigurator from redhat). > > -- Derek J Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > > mouse device. > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:26:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > mouse device. I think /dev/input/mice should be there too for USB mouse. It's this device that the USB guide on www.linux-usb.org refers to. -- Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely Morten B. Pedersen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copenhagen, Denmark.
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 05:26:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > mouse device. I think /dev/input/mice should be there too for USB mouse. It's this device that the USB guide on www.linux-usb.org refers to. -- Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely Morten B. Pedersen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copenhagen, Denmark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
I'm using devfs in my case. I didn't see /dev/misc/psaux in dexter's list. I had to link that to /dev/mouse to keep dexter happy. Then, I had to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to point to /dev/misc/psaux. Just a minor inconvenience. But, I like the premise behind dexter (it reminds me of xconfigurator from redhat). -- Derek J Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > mouse device. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: xserver-common phase2v15: dexter does not list /dev/gpmdata
I'm using devfs in my case. I didn't see /dev/misc/psaux in dexter's list. I had to link that to /dev/mouse to keep dexter happy. Then, I had to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to point to /dev/misc/psaux. Just a minor inconvenience. But, I like the premise behind dexter (it reminds me of xconfigurator from redhat). -- Derek J Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /dev/gpmdata is not on the list of mouse devices. /dev/gpmdata IS a valid > mouse device. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]