Re: Source package naming

2006-08-25 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 18:12 +, David Nusinow wrote:
 We're not currently on alioth. We'll be moving to git there early in the
 post-etch cycle, but if you want access to our current svn, you need to
 write Branden Robinson with your public ssh key. I'll add you to our alioth
 project though so you'll have access to the git repo when the time comes.

Thanks, I've written to Branden. I'm away over the weekend but I'll
attempt to get something committed next week.

Ian.

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Re: Source package naming

2006-08-23 Thread Ian Campbell
(Please continue to CC me)

On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 00:12 +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:45:21PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
  Is there a particular reason for this? I've tried searching the debian-x
  archives but I can't see it.
 
 Purely historical reasons: the binary package is named
 xserver-xorg-video-foo to have a clear lineage from xserver-xorg.

OK, thanks for the info.

David Nusinow wrote, in a message he forgot to CC me on ;-)
  I have xf86-video-ivtvdev_0.10.6.orig.tar.gz and I'm wondering if I
  should repack/rename it before upload (well, before searching for a
  sponsor ;-)).
 
 Don't bother repacking it. Just rename it. I can sponsor the driver if
 you're interested. If you want to bring the package under the
 maintainership of the XSF with you as the primary uploader[1], you're more
 than welcome to do so. Just let us know.

I'm currently maintaining the kernel side of things under pkg-mythtv on
Alioth but I think for this package it makes more sense to integrate it
with the XSF than pkg-mythtv so I'll take you up on that kind offer.

My username on alioth is ijc-guest, do you need anything else from me?
ssh key perhaps?

Thanks,
Ian.
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Re: Source package naming

2006-08-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 08:00:57PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
 (Please continue to CC me)
 
 On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 00:12 +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:45:21PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
   Is there a particular reason for this? I've tried searching the debian-x
   archives but I can't see it.
  
  Purely historical reasons: the binary package is named
  xserver-xorg-video-foo to have a clear lineage from xserver-xorg.
 
 OK, thanks for the info.
 
 David Nusinow wrote, in a message he forgot to CC me on ;-)
   I have xf86-video-ivtvdev_0.10.6.orig.tar.gz and I'm wondering if I
   should repack/rename it before upload (well, before searching for a
   sponsor ;-)).
  
  Don't bother repacking it. Just rename it. I can sponsor the driver if
  you're interested. If you want to bring the package under the
  maintainership of the XSF with you as the primary uploader[1], you're more
  than welcome to do so. Just let us know.
 
 I'm currently maintaining the kernel side of things under pkg-mythtv on
 Alioth but I think for this package it makes more sense to integrate it
 with the XSF than pkg-mythtv so I'll take you up on that kind offer.
 
 My username on alioth is ijc-guest, do you need anything else from me?
 ssh key perhaps?

We're not currently on alioth. We'll be moving to git there early in the
post-etch cycle, but if you want access to our current svn, you need to
write Branden Robinson with your public ssh key. I'll add you to our alioth
project though so you'll have access to the git repo when the time comes.

 - David Nusinow


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Source package naming

2006-08-22 Thread Ian Campbell
Hi,

Please CC me -- I am not subscribed.

I am in the process of packaging the X driver for the IVTV cards[0] and
I'm wondering about the correct source package name. It seems that the
upstream source is named xf86-video-FOO[1] and that is repacked for
Debian as xserver-xorg-video-FOO[2].

Is there a particular reason for this? I've tried searching the debian-x
archives but I can't see it.

I have xf86-video-ivtvdev_0.10.6.orig.tar.gz and I'm wondering if I
should repack/rename it before upload (well, before searching for a
sponsor ;-)).

In any case the binary package will be xserver-xorg-video-ivtv as you
would expect.

Thanks for your advice,
Ian.

[0] http://www.ivtvdriver.org. the kernel side is already in Debian in
the ivtv package http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ivtv.html
[1] http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.1/src/everything/
[2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xserver-xorg-video-i810.html
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Re: Source package naming

2006-08-22 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:45:21PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
 Is there a particular reason for this? I've tried searching the debian-x
 archives but I can't see it.

Purely historical reasons: the binary package is named
xserver-xorg-video-foo to have a clear lineage from xserver-xorg.

 I have xf86-video-ivtvdev_0.10.6.orig.tar.gz and I'm wondering if I
 should repack/rename it before upload (well, before searching for a
 sponsor ;-)).

I guess the only real reason now is consistency with the rest.  elmo
once said on IRC that the binary namespace is reasonably tightly
regulated and was very sensible, but the source package namespace was a
festering mess with a sign out the front saying 'here be dragons'. :)

Cheers,
Daniel


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Re: Source package naming

2006-08-22 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:45:21PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Please CC me -- I am not subscribed.
 
 I am in the process of packaging the X driver for the IVTV cards[0] and
 I'm wondering about the correct source package name. It seems that the
 upstream source is named xf86-video-FOO[1] and that is repacked for
 Debian as xserver-xorg-video-FOO[2].
 
 Is there a particular reason for this? I've tried searching the debian-x
 archives but I can't see it.

As Daniel says, to provide a clear lineage. The 'xf86' at this point refers
to the DDX, not the server itself. This naming scheme is far more clear to
the average user who doesn't know or care what a DDX is.

 I have xf86-video-ivtvdev_0.10.6.orig.tar.gz and I'm wondering if I
 should repack/rename it before upload (well, before searching for a
 sponsor ;-)).

Don't bother repacking it. Just rename it. I can sponsor the driver if
you're interested. If you want to bring the package under the
maintainership of the XSF with you as the primary uploader[1], you're more
than welcome to do so. Just let us know.

 In any case the binary package will be xserver-xorg-video-ivtv as you
 would expect.

Please do.

 - David Nusinow

[1] See http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Contrib for how we're
structuring maintainance within the team. You'd be de-facto maintainer,
though the XSF would be maintainer in name and we'd all help you out as
need be. If you're not in NM yet, joining the team is a very good
opportunity for learning how Debia works.


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