Re: Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-28 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek

Dear Mantias,

MK I send this message about 3 times, but don't get normal answer :(

This answer is written from an ``upstream'' point of view.  I don't
know whether you want to consider it as ``normal''.

MK Maybe it's hard to change 2 lines (from
MK russian  ru_RU.ISO-8859-5 and russian : ru_RU.ISO-8859-5 to
MK russian  ru_RU.KOI8-R and russian : ru_RU.KOI8-R)

Under Linux, you should set your LC_* variables to ru_RU, not to
russian.  ru_RU does point at KOI8-R indeed.

I do not know what systems, if any, use the ``russian'' alias;
changing this alias cannot be done without checking that it doesn't
break any other systems supported by XFree86.  If you really believe
that this should be changed, take this discussion upstream to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MK lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

XFree86 uses consistent naming for locales.  Compare this with the
naming of e.g. the various fr_FR.* locales, and you will notice that
your suggestion would be the odd man out.

Please use one of lt_LT.ISO8859-13 or lt_LT.ISO_8859-13, which are
properly parsed both by XFree86 and libc.

(Note: I don't know when these locales were added, but they are most
definitely in upstream CVS.)

Regards,

Juliusz

P.S. Do not CC people with e-mail to lists you know they are
subscribed to.  It annoys them.  And you don't want to get Branden
annoyed.


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Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-27 Thread Mantas Kriauciunas

Hi again,

I send this message about 3 times, but don't get normal answer :(

Maybe it's hard to change 2 lines (from
russian  ru_RU.ISO-8859-5 and russian : ru_RU.ISO-8859-5 to
russian  ru_RU.KOI8-R and russian : ru_RU.KOI8-R) and add 1 line:

lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias ???

(I'm not debian developer, I'm only debian user and if I do something 
wrong or wrongly somebody can say me about this.)

---Original message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with locale

Hi,

In my opinion file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
from xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb package contains
missing and incorrect information about some locales.
Files /etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen from package
locales 2.2.x that comes with libc6 2.2.x has changed
default locale format (from libc6 2.1.x) from format like
this:
.
deutsch de_DE.ISO8859-1
.
lithuanian  lt_LT.ISO8859-13


to format like this:
..
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
...
lithuanian  lt_LT.ISO-8859-13
...

I think file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias must
updated, because many languages now not have aliases and
if I start program it displays warnings:
locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C and does
work in English language.
for example there are no alias in old format (no ':') for
lithuanian locale - every time I must add this line manualy:
lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

I think you must check that all locales from files
/etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen has correct aliases
in file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias

I found other problems too. Default rusian locale in unix
are ru_RU.KOI8-R

but file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias from
xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb and /etc/locale.alias from
package locales_2.2.3-5_all.deb contains incorrect
information:

russian ru_RU.ISO-8859-5
russian : ru_RU.ISO8859-5

:(
Can anybody help on these problems ?


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Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-27 Thread Mantas Kriauciunas

Hi again,

I send this message about 3 times, but don't get normal answer :(

Maybe it's hard to change 2 lines (from
russian  ru_RU.ISO-8859-5 and russian : ru_RU.ISO-8859-5 to
russian  ru_RU.KOI8-R and russian : ru_RU.KOI8-R) and add 1 line:

lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias ???

(I'm not debian developer, I'm only debian user and if I do something 
wrong or wrongly somebody can say me about this.)


---Original message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-x@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problems with locale

Hi,

In my opinion file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
from xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb package contains
missing and incorrect information about some locales.
Files /etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen from package
locales 2.2.x that comes with libc6 2.2.x has changed
default locale format (from libc6 2.1.x) from format like
this:
.
deutsch de_DE.ISO8859-1
.
lithuanian  lt_LT.ISO8859-13


to format like this:
..
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
...
lithuanian  lt_LT.ISO-8859-13
...

I think file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias must
updated, because many languages now not have aliases and
if I start program it displays warnings:
locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C and does
work in English language.
for example there are no alias in old format (no ':') for
lithuanian locale - every time I must add this line manualy:
lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

I think you must check that all locales from files
/etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen has correct aliases
in file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias

I found other problems too. Default rusian locale in unix
are ru_RU.KOI8-R

but file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias from
xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb and /etc/locale.alias from
package locales_2.2.3-5_all.deb contains incorrect
information:

russian ru_RU.ISO-8859-5
russian : ru_RU.ISO8859-5

:(
Can anybody help on these problems ?



Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-05 Thread Mantas Kriauciunas

Again hi again :)

I send to you second message about incorrect locale.alias, but got 
strange answer:

--Answer from Branden Robinson--
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:32:02PM +0200, Mantas wrote:
  Hi again,=0D
  =0D
  On 28.06 I've sent you the letter which is bellow, but=0D
  didn't get any answer. Maybe I wasn't clear enought ?=0D
  (I'm not very good in english :( ). It would be very nice=0D
  if you write what you don't understand.=0D
  =0D

Yeah.

Please^M
Stop^M
Spamming^M
Me^M
and^M
Get^M
a text editor^M
that works.^M
--=20
G. Branden Robinson
--End of answer--

I don't unterstand you. I'm not spamming you, but I report you about 
missing and incorrect lines in locale.alias file. I send you previos 
letters through webmail, not with text editor. Now I send letter writen 
with mozilla mail, maybe this time you will satisfied ?

--Second message--
Hi again,

On 28.06 I've sent you the letter which is bellow, but
didn't get any answer. Maybe I wasn't clear enought ?
(I'm not very good in english :( ). It would be very nice
if you write what you don't understand.

--First message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with locale

Hi,

In my opinion file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
from xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb package contains
missing and incorrect information about some locales.
Files /etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen from package
locales 2.2.x that comes with libc6 2.2.x has changed
default locale format (from libc6 2.1.x) from format like
this:
.
deutsch
de_DE.ISO8859-1
.
lithuanian
lt_LT.ISO8859-13


to format like this:
..
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
...
lithuanian lt_LT.ISO-8859-13
...

I think file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias must
updated, because many languages now not have aliases and
if I start program it displays warnings:
locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C and does
work in English language.
for example there are no alias in old format (no ':') for
lithuanian locale - every time I must add this line manualy:
lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

I think you must check that all locales from files
/etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen has correct aliases
in file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias

I found other problems too. Default rusian locale in unix
are #ru_RU.KOI8-R

but file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias from
xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb and /etc/locale.alias from
package locales_2.2.3-5_all.deb contains incorrect
information:

russian ru_RU.ISO-8859-5
russian : ru_RU.ISO8859-5

:(
Can you help on these problems ?


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Re: Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-05 Thread Christian T. Steigies

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 03:48:58PM +0100, Mantas Kriauciunas wrote:
 Again hi again :)
 
 I send to you second message about incorrect locale.alias, but got 
 strange answer:
You failed to read between the lines. Imagine you are the maintainer of a
package which 10 million people are using. Imagine every user of this
package reports every single problem he or she has with it directly to you.
And imagine you have a life besides being a maintainer, ie trying to earn
some money for a living. Can you understand why Branden forwards all those
messages to this list, where some more people can help him sharing the
workload?

No, I don't know the answer to your problem, don't bother writing me PM. We
read it already how often, three times? I don't think asking more often will
speed up the process of getting an answer, but YMMV.

Christian


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Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-05 Thread Mantas Kriauciunas

Again hi again :)

I send to you second message about incorrect locale.alias, but got 
strange answer:


--Answer from Branden Robinson--
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:32:02PM +0200, Mantas wrote:
 Hi again,=0D
 =0D
 On 28.06 I've sent you the letter which is bellow, but=0D
 didn't get any answer. Maybe I wasn't clear enought ?=0D
 (I'm not very good in english :( ). It would be very nice=0D
 if you write what you don't understand.=0D
 =0D

Yeah.

Please^M
Stop^M
Spamming^M
Me^M
and^M
Get^M
a text editor^M
that works.^M
--=20
G. Branden Robinson
--End of answer--

I don't unterstand you. I'm not spamming you, but I report you about 
missing and incorrect lines in locale.alias file. I send you previos 
letters through webmail, not with text editor. Now I send letter writen 
with mozilla mail, maybe this time you will satisfied ?


--Second message--
Hi again,

On 28.06 I've sent you the letter which is bellow, but
didn't get any answer. Maybe I wasn't clear enought ?
(I'm not very good in english :( ). It would be very nice
if you write what you don't understand.

--First message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-x@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problems with locale

Hi,

In my opinion file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
from xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb package contains
missing and incorrect information about some locales.
Files /etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen from package
locales 2.2.x that comes with libc6 2.2.x has changed
default locale format (from libc6 2.1.x) from format like
this:
.
deutsch
de_DE.ISO8859-1
.
lithuanian
lt_LT.ISO8859-13


to format like this:
..
deutsch de_DE.ISO-8859-1
...
lithuanian lt_LT.ISO-8859-13
...

I think file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias must
updated, because many languages now not have aliases and
if I start program it displays warnings:
locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C and does
work in English language.
for example there are no alias in old format (no ':') for
lithuanian locale - every time I must add this line manualy:
lt_LT.ISO-8859-13 lt_LT.ISO8859-13

I think you must check that all locales from files
/etc/locale.alias and /etc/locale.gen has correct aliases
in file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias

I found other problems too. Default rusian locale in unix
are #ru_RU.KOI8-R

but file usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias from
xlibs_4.1.0-0pre1v1.3_i386.deb and /etc/locale.alias from
package locales_2.2.3-5_all.deb contains incorrect
information:

russian ru_RU.ISO-8859-5
russian : ru_RU.ISO8859-5

:(
Can you help on these problems ?



Re: Still are problems with locale.alias (some locales do not have aliases and some languages have incorrect aliases)

2001-07-05 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 03:48:58PM +0100, Mantas Kriauciunas wrote:
 Again hi again :)
 
 I send to you second message about incorrect locale.alias, but got 
 strange answer:
You failed to read between the lines. Imagine you are the maintainer of a
package which 10 million people are using. Imagine every user of this
package reports every single problem he or she has with it directly to you.
And imagine you have a life besides being a maintainer, ie trying to earn
some money for a living. Can you understand why Branden forwards all those
messages to this list, where some more people can help him sharing the
workload?

No, I don't know the answer to your problem, don't bother writing me PM. We
read it already how often, three times? I don't think asking more often will
speed up the process of getting an answer, but YMMV.

Christian