RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook munging headers

2005-02-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
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Oh, I know I can go aGoogling. The point
was if you are going to post a snippet of information quoted from some where,
it would be best to provide the source for that as well.

 



John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You



 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kami Razvan
Sent: Tuesday,
 February 08, 2005 3:53 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Outlook munging headers

 

John.. I did a Google search on: SaveAllMIMENotJustHeaders

 

& a lot of articles showed up.. check it out--

 

Kami

 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Sent: Monday,
 February 07, 2005 8:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Outlook munging headers

KB number or source of information
please?

 



John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You



 



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Monday,
 February 07, 2005 5:24 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Outlook munging headers

 



Hi,





 





haven't played with this - but I know that people have been
complaining about Outlook munging the headers. I wonder if this would help:





 





Additional compatibility can be achieved by
enabling Outlook 2003 to save the original MIME source when connecting to a
POP3 server. To enable this feature, set the following registry parameter: 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Options\Mail
Parameter: SaveAllMIMENotJustHeaders
Type: REG_DWORD
Data Value: 0x0001





 





Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software,
Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue,
Suite
 203
Upper Saddle River,
 NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/ 





 












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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam tests by months

2005-02-08 Thread Scott Fisher
Although I dislike the term, ham to me is legit e-mail.
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From: "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam tests by months


No, I mean what does Ham mean?  Does Ham mean legit e-mail?  Or is that 
like
mail from BulkSenders which some people might consider Spam and some might
consider legit?

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam tests by months


My weighting system is this:
<100 No action (27.7% of all mail in Jan 2005)
100 Subject tag  (.5% of all mail) (1/3 of this weight range tend to be
spam)
200 Hold  (.5% of all mail)  (I average 1 a month of Ham in hold)
300 Delete  (71.3% of all mail)
As I have to draw a line somewhere, I drew the line at 200. Everything
held
or deleted is considered spam.
Everything under 200 is considered ham, I think this is fairly
conservative.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam tests by months

> Scott,
> How do you define Ham?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Scott Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:14 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam tests by months
>
>
> I've compiled my spam test results over the last year to look at test
> effectiveness trends.
>
> If anyone is interested I've posted them on my website. I've never
really
> seen test effectiveness trended over a year period anywhere else.
>
> All tests spam vs. ham based on all emails.
> http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/Testsbymonth.html
> Spam tests based on all spam emails.
> http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/spamtestbymonth.html
> Ham tests based on all ham emails.
> http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/hamtestsbymonth.html
>
> Warning these are large HTML files.
>
> Some examples:
> Spamcop triggered on 83% of my Feb 2004 spam emails and has downward
trended
> to 57% of my January 2005 spam emails.
> Message Sniffer has stayed at 95-96% detection of all spam emails from
June
> 2004 to Jan 2005.
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook munging headers

2005-02-08 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



John.. I did a Google search on: SaveAllMIMENotJustHeaders
 
& a lot of articles showed up.. check it out--
 
Kami


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff 
(Lists)Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:31 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook 
munging headers


KB number or source 
of information please?
 

John 
Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For 
You
 

-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Andy 
SchmidtSent: 
Monday, February 07, 
2005 5:24 
PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook munging 
headers
 

Hi,

 

haven't played with this - but I 
know that people have been complaining about Outlook munging the headers. I 
wonder if this would help:

 

Additional compatibility can be achieved by 
enabling Outlook 2003 to save the original MIME source when connecting to a POP3 
server. To enable this feature, set the following registry parameter: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Options\MailParameter: 
SaveAllMIMENotJustHeadersType: REG_DWORDData Value: 
0x0001

 

Best 
RegardsAndy 
SchmidtH&M 
Systems Software, Inc.600 East 
Crescent Avenue, 
Suite 203Upper Saddle 
River, NJ 07458-1846Phone:  +1 201 
934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax:    +1 201 
934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

 
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