[Declude.JunkMail] More Tests

2005-02-15 Thread Kyle Fisher








Declude Support,



I need a little help. I have many of these emails that
just fail one test like CMDSPACE. I have a 8 weight to CMDSPACE and you
will see that the first header weighted at 8 and the second at 3 and they
failed the same tests. My biggest problem is I cant find a way for
these headers to fail more tests than just the CMDSPACE. 



Can you look at these and help me find out if I can enable
another test for these to fail.

I am sending you my files to see if I need more tests
enabled.





Kyle



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More Tests

2005-02-15 Thread Scott Fisher



Your just getting them ahead of the spam tests. I 
see 84.98.46.191 is listed now by CBL, UCEPROTECT, SPAMCOP...

Maybe some content filter would have helped 
here.

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  From: 
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  Tests
  
  
  Declude 
  Support,
  
  I need a little help. I have 
  many of these emails that just fail one test like CMDSPACE. I have a 8 
  weight to CMDSPACE and you will see that the first header weighted at 8 and 
  the second at 3 and they failed the same tests. My biggest problem is I 
  can’t find a way for these headers to fail more tests than just the CMDSPACE. 
  
  
  Can you look at these and help me 
  find out if I can enable another test for these to 
  fail.
  I am sending you my files to see 
  if I need more tests enabled.
  
  
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[Declude.JunkMail] Include files

2005-02-15 Thread Seth Jackson

Is it posiable to have includes file in your
$default$.JunkMail? kinda like the WHITELISTFILE.

Thanks
-Seth
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Patrick Childers
Sorry for the OT but...

It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware) based
solutions for internet monitoring/filtering in a corporate setting of less
than 150 users. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Patrick

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I suggest Management by Walking Around.

Software isn't the solution.  People can goof off in all kinds of ways,
not just from IM, email, or websurfing.

Andrew 8)

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Sorry for the OT but...

It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware)
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of less than 150 users. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Patrick

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Websense...  Although its a bit expensive... 

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 

Patrick Childers writes: 

Sorry for the OT but... 

It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here! 

Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware) based
solutions for internet monitoring/filtering in a corporate setting of less
than 150 users. Any suggestions? 

Thanks,
~Patrick 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Justin Moose
We use a Watchguard firewall on our corporate network.  
http://www.watchguard.com

You can use it to log all web browsing activities and there is a web filtering 
service called web blocker that it uses to block sites based on content.  I 
believe that it uses surf controls databases for the content filtering.  You 
can also manually allow or deny certain sites.  The only problem that we have 
is that it blocks by IP, so once in a while it catches a site that it shouldn't.

There is an annual subscription for the web blocker service but it isn't too 
bad and is defiantly a lot cheaper than a lawsuit.  We log web activities based 
on IP address, but you can also setup authentication on the firewall and log 
via username as well.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me off list

Justin Moose
Information Technology Manager
Sioux Valley Wireless
  

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

Sorry for the OT but...

It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware) based
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than 150 users. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Patrick

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Therefore,  I  am  looking  for  recommendations  for  software  (or
 hardware)  based  solutions  for  internet monitoring/filtering in a
 corporate setting of less than 150 users. Any suggestions?

I  find  WebSense  quite  reasonably  priced,  endlessly flexible, and
stable. Cannot say the same, for example, of eSafe or WebWasher.

--Sandy



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Bilbee
We use SmartFilter by Secure Computing in integerates with our pix firewall.


Kevin Bilbee

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 It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

 Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or
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 Thanks,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread R. Scott Perry

We use a Watchguard firewall on our corporate 
network.  http://www.watchguard.com
FYI, if you use a Watchguard Firebox, make absolutely sure that the DNS 
Proxy is *disabled*.  There's a serious bug that they have been ignoring 
for over a year now that makes it useless when multiple requests come in 
from the same IP.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Dan Horne
Websense here.  We had a year-long project last year to try and find a
replacement for Websense, cause management didn't like the price.  After
a year of testing everything under the sun, we came back to Websense as
the best of the breed.  The licensing costs are not even that expensive
when you compare Websense with what else is out there. 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and
Filtering Apps

 Therefore,  I  am  looking  for  recommendations  for  software  (or
 hardware)  based  solutions  for  internet monitoring/filtering in a 
 corporate setting of less than 150 users. Any suggestions?

I  find  WebSense  quite  reasonably  priced,  endlessly flexible, and
stable. Cannot say the same, for example, of eSafe or WebWasher.

--Sandy



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Patrick Childers

I suggest Management by Walking Around.

Software isn't the solution.  People can goof off in all kinds 
of ways, not just from IM, email, or websurfing.

Andrew 8)


I'll leave the walking around to the project managers. I only have to worry
about IM, email and websurfing. ;-)

Thanks for the recommendations everyone!

~Patrick

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Rick Davidson
www.astaro.com has a fantastic solution, firewall, IPS, Content filtering, 
transparent DNS, HTTP and SMTP proxies, anti-virus and anti-spyware for the 
HTTP SMTP streams.

some of the features are ala carte and can get pricy but it is one very nice 
all in one solution

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering 
Apps


Sorry for the OT but...
It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!
Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware) 
based
solutions for internet monitoring/filtering in a corporate setting of less
than 150 users. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Patrick
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

sonicwall can do that also

Thanks,
Andrew Baldwin

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.thumpernet.com 
315-282-0020

Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 3:02:34 PM, you wrote:

 www.astaro.com has a fantastic solution, firewall, IPS, Content filtering,
 transparent DNS, HTTP and SMTP proxies, anti-virus and anti-spyware for the
 HTTP SMTP streams.

 some of the features are ala carte and can get pricy but it is one very nice
 all in one solution


 Rick Davidson
 National Systems Manager
 North American Title Group
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 It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

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 Thanks,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Marc Catuogno
If these are machines that the company owns and you can install them...
I have some Reg Keys that a guy who works under me wrote for windows XP that
blocks AOL-IM download and some others. It also prevents certain selected
sites from being accessed and prevents things like my bargain buddy from
being installed. Will really frustrate you average user. If you can get away
with limited accounts, I can't, I wish I could, but that really makes it
tough for them to screw around.  If you want I can share them...

Marc

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Sorry for the OT but...

It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware) based
solutions for internet monitoring/filtering in a corporate setting of less
than 150 users. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Patrick

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering Apps

2005-02-15 Thread Jeff Pereira
I am currently evaluating some of the products from Fortinet (
www.fortinet.com ) and I am pretty impressed.

In addition to web blocking, it also does AV, IDS, and also can block
grayware.

I am now using the Watchguard product, but find the web blocker very
limiting because of thhe fact that they have merged to 50 or so categories
that Surf Control has into 14 categories.  Despite many people asking for
the full surf control categories they have not changed it.  This is one of
the major reasons that I am looking for soulutions other than Watchguard.

Jeff


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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and
Filtering Apps


We use a Watchguard firewall on our corporate network.
http://www.watchguard.com

You can use it to log all web browsing activities and there is a web
filtering service called web blocker that it uses to block sites based on
content.  I believe that it uses surf controls databases for the content
filtering.  You can also manually allow or deny certain sites.  The only
problem that we have is that it blocks by IP, so once in a while it catches
a site that it shouldn't.

There is an annual subscription for the web blocker service but it isn't too
bad and is defiantly a lot cheaper than a lawsuit.  We log web activities
based on IP address, but you can also setup authentication on the firewall
and log via username as well.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me off list

Justin Moose
Information Technology Manager
Sioux Valley Wireless


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage - Monitoring and Filtering
Apps

Sorry for the OT but...

It seems we have a lot of goofing off during the work day around here!

Therefore, I am looking for recommendations for software (or hardware) based
solutions for internet monitoring/filtering in a corporate setting of less
than 150 users. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Patrick

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[Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request: New variables

2005-02-15 Thread Darin Cox



Hi Barry/Scott,

I'd like to request some separated variables. 
Namely, splitting %ALLRECIPS% into %TORECIPS%, %CCRECIPS%, and 
%BCCRECIPS%. I come to an occasion where I need to add the TO and CC 
recips to the headers, but don't want to reveal BCC.

Thanks for considering it.
Darin.




[Declude.JunkMail] IMail's Relay for Addresses

2005-02-15 Thread Matt
I just wanted to check here and make sure that I am not messing 
something up.  Prior to switching to separate MTA's for handling our 
gatewayed domains instead of having things delivered directly to IMail, 
I had to enter an IP of the gatewayed domain in the Relay for 
Addresses part of the SMTP settings otherwise this stuff would get 
bounced.  Now it seems that so long as my gateway addresses are in 
Relay for Addresses, it doesn't seem to require me to enter the 
customer's IP that we have configured in our HOSTS file for relaying 
E-mail to.  Am I correct in assuming that this setting is universal to 
both outgoing IP's as well as incoming IP's or possibly just a fluke?

Thanks,
Matt
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail's Relay for Addresses

2005-02-15 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Matt:

Not certain that I understand your question correctly.

The reason why you have the HOSTS entry would be to override the DNS.
Normally, DNS would point to your Imail server (or now, to your inbound
gateway).  If Imail were to try to deliver the mail, it would use DNS to
look up the MX - and loop back to itself (or now: your inbound gateway).

By adding the domain to your HOSTS file, you let Imail know NOT to use DNS
for resolution, but to deliver the mail to the IP address in your HOSTS
file.

Of course, if all you mail is now coming through your inbound gateways, then
you could just define a mail route in THOSE gateways (e.g., IIS let's you do
that easily) and bypass Imail (and Declude) entirely, if that should be
desired.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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I just wanted to check here and make sure that I am not messing 
something up.  Prior to switching to separate MTA's for handling our 
gatewayed domains instead of having things delivered directly to IMail, 
I had to enter an IP of the gatewayed domain in the Relay for 
Addresses part of the SMTP settings otherwise this stuff would get 
bounced.  Now it seems that so long as my gateway addresses are in 
Relay for Addresses, it doesn't seem to require me to enter the 
customer's IP that we have configured in our HOSTS file for relaying 
E-mail to.  Am I correct in assuming that this setting is universal to 
both outgoing IP's as well as incoming IP's or possibly just a fluke?

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IMail's Relay for Addresses

2005-02-15 Thread Matt
I do a ton of gateway E-mail scanning using the HOSTS file and I was 
also entering the IP's in the Relay for Addresses screen.  Formerly 
E-mail wouldn't be relayed unless it was in Relay for Addresses, but 
since a change to using MS SMTP for my MX gateways, and then having 
those gateways listed in Relay for Addresses, it appears that I no 
longer need to enter the IP's that I have in my HOSTS file.  I 
discovered this by accident after forgetting to add an IP to Relay for 
Addresses, but it still worked.

The documentation seems to indicate that Relay for Addresses works for 
where the E-mail is coming from.  Seems that the check for where it is 
going to is the undocumented/poorly explained configuration.  I guess I 
was confused when I first saw this was working and some of the 
documentation was not very helpful, but I found some KB stuff that 
suggested that this was in fact fine.  I should have probably researched 
it more before posting, though I have learned that it is rarely safe to 
assume in the purest sense :)

Thanks,
Matt

Andy Schmidt wrote:
Hi Matt:
Not certain that I understand your question correctly.
The reason why you have the HOSTS entry would be to override the DNS.
Normally, DNS would point to your Imail server (or now, to your inbound
gateway).  If Imail were to try to deliver the mail, it would use DNS to
look up the MX - and loop back to itself (or now: your inbound gateway).
By adding the domain to your HOSTS file, you let Imail know NOT to use DNS
for resolution, but to deliver the mail to the IP address in your HOSTS
file.
Of course, if all you mail is now coming through your inbound gateways, then
you could just define a mail route in THOSE gateways (e.g., IIS let's you do
that easily) and bypass Imail (and Declude) entirely, if that should be
desired.
Best Regards
Andy Schmidt
Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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I just wanted to check here and make sure that I am not messing 
something up.  Prior to switching to separate MTA's for handling our 
gatewayed domains instead of having things delivered directly to IMail, 
I had to enter an IP of the gatewayed domain in the Relay for 
Addresses part of the SMTP settings otherwise this stuff would get 
bounced.  Now it seems that so long as my gateway addresses are in 
Relay for Addresses, it doesn't seem to require me to enter the 
customer's IP that we have configured in our HOSTS file for relaying 
E-mail to.  Am I correct in assuming that this setting is universal to 
both outgoing IP's as well as incoming IP's or possibly just a fluke?

Thanks,
Matt
 

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