Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
> Well hell Scott! > Hope all is going well for you:) > Good the hear from you Scott! I hope things are well with you. > Hear hear! :) Thank you all for the kind words. :) It is very nice to see all these familiar faces (and some new ones, too!). -Scott --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test
To quote Scott: "The standard MAILFROM test will check to see if the domain on the return address has either an MX or A record in DNS. So if an E-mail fails the MAILFROM test, the return address can't receive mail." On Jun 14, 2006, at 6:39, Stan Buck wrote: Can anyone tell me more detail about how the MAILFROM test works? It has suddenly (June 2) started to catch email that it ignored before. I can't detect any sigificant difference in the headers before and after. Stan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
Hear hear! Dave Doherty wrote: Good the hear from you Scott! I hope things are well with you. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
Andrew, I am fully aware of the situation, and I posted a response yesterday. If would like to discuss this further please feel free to contact me offline. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:41 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? David, have you heard the phrase "Caesar's wife must be above reproach"? A company that sells email based products has to do a superlative job in their own field. I've already got a fulltime job thanks, but I just can't help getting pulled into the forum and paying attention to what Declude is doing when Declude is doing such a hack job. I've had my own issues with tech support and have been flabbergasted at the snail's pace of production. We've been waiting a very long time for native URI support. Heck, we've been waiting a long time for proper MIME decoding, never mind the lack of robust body decoding whose bug was mentioned yesterday by Matt, and never mind the similar problem with header decoding when the header has non-RFC compliant line terminators. We can all accept that a company undergoing changes is going to face difficulties, but when you combine the lack of communication along with technical difficulties in managing your own product... it just can't look worse. It's very disheartening to see Declude behaving this way; similar to what has been said earlier, I put in a Declude gateway and considered that IMail was necessary baggage to go with it. My company specifically wanted a Windows based antispam gateway, and Declude was the best game in town. Well, the competition has grown up while Declude has been napping and I've got choices. Andrew. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Barker > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:16 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? > > Erik, > > We have just migrated our servers, and the DNS is in the process of > being updated. > > David B > www.declude.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Erik > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:00 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? > > If you have ever "whitelisted" the REVDNS of: .declude.com > (like it has > been in the past - for several years); you will need to change this. > We had too. Before, Declude always had the "correct" REVDNS based on > their domain but since their move to a new location and provider... > Their new REVDNS is: > .xiolink.com (nothing relating to Declude or CPHZ.COM) > > To me, this is ironic considering that Declude is in the SPAM business > control. And the .xiolink.com full text lookup returns a > dotted/dashed IP address used by most dialup/residential customers and > for most of us; we use filters and external filters to detect the > dotted/dashed IP. > (Full REVDNS > for the current Declude is: 63-246-31-248.xiolink.com > ([63.246.31.248])) > > Whitelisting based just on a to/from/return address is not enough as > these can be forged. In the past we used both the to/from/return > address AND the REVDNS as the "whitelisting". > > -Erik > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Marc Catuogno > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:28 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? > > > Checking to see if I can post... > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
Good the hear from you Scott! I hope things are well with you. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
Yes, it is "a" "common" place holder... But for how long? Shouldn't a company be on top of that based on the type business they are in? Lookup those IP ranges to see if they those ranges are listed on any list; use DNS that is also not listed on any URI lookup? Normally, what... 7 to 10 days max for have a REVDNS to populate? Have you noticed now... The REVDNS now shows .declude.com (ironically after I mentioned it)? When did their move occur... Over a month ago? Yes. That's not what I said on the REVDNS alone Sandy. What I said was: "...dotted/dashed IP address used by most filters and external filters to detect the dotted/dashed IP" "Whitelisting based just on a to/from/return address is not enough as these can be forged. In the past we used both the to/from/return address AND the REVDNS as the "whitelisting"." - More important, why would you think that whitelisting based on the REVDNS domain of a known and targeted anti-spam company would be trustworthy? --Sandy -- Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
Well hell Scott! Hope all is going well for you:) Sharyn --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
> You would "think" that a company that is SPAM control and offer a product > for SPAM control would look more into "who" they use for their ISP and how > they setup their service. Just for the record, I was the one that chose EasyDNS. And at that time, I certainly had no knowledge of them making money from spammers. :) You had also mentioned the non-vanity reverse DNS (63-246-31-248.xiolink.com) -- that is a perfectly valid setup, and is in fact the same way that the DNSstuff.com mailserver is set up (which, like the Declude mailserver back in my day, is on a business Internet connection that can't have a vanity reverse DNS entry without switching to a much more expensive Internet provider). It's also an old pet peeve of mine when people block E-mails from IPs with valid-but-non-vanity reverse DNS entries, as some people may remember. Of course, it's better if you can have a vanity reverse DNS entry -- so it's a good thing that Declude is in the process of getting it -- but it is perfectly valid. -Scott --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
>And the .xiolink.com full text lookup returns a dotted/dashed IP >address used by most dialup/residential customers and for most of >us... That's not really true. A dotted-dashed IP-like hostname is a common placeholder used by ISPs for IPs whose customers have not requested a PTR, even including large commercial accounts. That's not the same as a PTR that *also* includes '-dialup', '-dsl', etc. More important, why would you think that whitelisting based on the REVDNS domain of a known and targeted anti-spam company would be trustworthy? --Sandy -- Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
David, have you heard the phrase "Caesar's wife must be above reproach"? A company that sells email based products has to do a superlative job in their own field. I've already got a fulltime job thanks, but I just can't help getting pulled into the forum and paying attention to what Declude is doing when Declude is doing such a hack job. I've had my own issues with tech support and have been flabbergasted at the snail's pace of production. We've been waiting a very long time for native URI support. Heck, we've been waiting a long time for proper MIME decoding, never mind the lack of robust body decoding whose bug was mentioned yesterday by Matt, and never mind the similar problem with header decoding when the header has non-RFC compliant line terminators. We can all accept that a company undergoing changes is going to face difficulties, but when you combine the lack of communication along with technical difficulties in managing your own product... it just can't look worse. It's very disheartening to see Declude behaving this way; similar to what has been said earlier, I put in a Declude gateway and considered that IMail was necessary baggage to go with it. My company specifically wanted a Windows based antispam gateway, and Declude was the best game in town. Well, the competition has grown up while Declude has been napping and I've got choices. Andrew. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David Barker > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:16 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? > > Erik, > > We have just migrated our servers, and the DNS is in the > process of being updated. > > David B > www.declude.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Erik > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:00 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? > > If you have ever "whitelisted" the REVDNS of: .declude.com > (like it has > been in the past - for several years); you will need to > change this. We had too. Before, Declude always had the > "correct" REVDNS based on their domain but since their move > to a new location and provider... Their new REVDNS is: > .xiolink.com (nothing relating to Declude or CPHZ.COM) > > To me, this is ironic considering that Declude is in the SPAM > business control. And the .xiolink.com full text lookup > returns a dotted/dashed IP address used by most > dialup/residential customers and for most of us; we use > filters and external filters to detect the dotted/dashed IP. > (Full REVDNS > for the current Declude is: 63-246-31-248.xiolink.com > ([63.246.31.248])) > > Whitelisting based just on a to/from/return address is not > enough as these can be forged. In the past we used both the > to/from/return address AND the REVDNS as the "whitelisting". > > -Erik > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marc Catuogno > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:28 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? > > > Checking to see if I can post... > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test
How does it do the DNS lookup? Does it use some kind of service that might have changed? The other possibility is that on June 2 the sending org changed their DNS info, so that it is no longer valid. If I do a manual DNS lookup, I get "sorry, xxx.xxx.xxx.org is not an IP address". It seems unlikely that they changed anything, though. - Original Message - From: "Scott Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test I believe it does a DNS lookup on everything after the @ in the envelope mailfrom. It can false positive for me when the mailfrom uses subdomains. In general I would term it an effective test, though it doesn't trigger on a lot of spam. - Original Message - From: "Stan Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test Can anyone tell me more detail about how the MAILFROM test works? It has suddenly (June 2) started to catch email that it ignored before. I can't detect any sigificant difference in the headers before and after. Stan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
On other thing... As I mentioned before about the "declude" site/ip Lookup on Scott's DNS Report: http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=xiolink.com Notice all the errors??? Now lookup: http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=declude.com easydns.com ? I don't know about the most of you; but don't you find that "easydns.com" is mostly listed on spam sources; this based on our logs from Darrell's URLBL program. You would "think" that a company that is SPAM control and offer a product for SPAM control would look more into "who" they use for their ISP and how they setup their service. Just as Scott Fisher said once awhile back (I believe it was him)... Ironic. -Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Catuogno Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:28 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? Importance: High Checking to see if I can post... --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
Erik, We have just migrated our servers, and the DNS is in the process of being updated. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:00 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? If you have ever "whitelisted" the REVDNS of: .declude.com (like it has been in the past - for several years); you will need to change this. We had too. Before, Declude always had the "correct" REVDNS based on their domain but since their move to a new location and provider... Their new REVDNS is: .xiolink.com (nothing relating to Declude or CPHZ.COM) To me, this is ironic considering that Declude is in the SPAM business control. And the .xiolink.com full text lookup returns a dotted/dashed IP address used by most dialup/residential customers and for most of us; we use filters and external filters to detect the dotted/dashed IP. (Full REVDNS for the current Declude is: 63-246-31-248.xiolink.com ([63.246.31.248])) Whitelisting based just on a to/from/return address is not enough as these can be forged. In the past we used both the to/from/return address AND the REVDNS as the "whitelisting". -Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Catuogno Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:28 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? Checking to see if I can post... --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test
I believe it does a DNS lookup on everything after the @ in the envelope mailfrom. It can false positive for me when the mailfrom uses subdomains. In general I would term it an effective test, though it doesn't trigger on a lot of spam. - Original Message - From: "Stan Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test Can anyone tell me more detail about how the MAILFROM test works? It has suddenly (June 2) started to catch email that it ignored before. I can't detect any sigificant difference in the headers before and after. Stan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
If you have ever "whitelisted" the REVDNS of: .declude.com (like it has been in the past - for several years); you will need to change this. We had too. Before, Declude always had the "correct" REVDNS based on their domain but since their move to a new location and provider... Their new REVDNS is: .xiolink.com (nothing relating to Declude or CPHZ.COM) To me, this is ironic considering that Declude is in the SPAM business control. And the .xiolink.com full text lookup returns a dotted/dashed IP address used by most dialup/residential customers and for most of us; we use filters and external filters to detect the dotted/dashed IP. (Full REVDNS for the current Declude is: 63-246-31-248.xiolink.com ([63.246.31.248])) Whitelisting based just on a to/from/return address is not enough as these can be forged. In the past we used both the to/from/return address AND the REVDNS as the "whitelisting". -Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Catuogno Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:28 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post? Checking to see if I can post... --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM test
Can anyone tell me more detail about how the MAILFROM test works? It has suddenly (June 2) started to catch email that it ignored before. I can't detect any sigificant difference in the headers before and after. Stan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Test - can I post?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping
>>>In your case is the initial confim response getting back to the user? Or is the response never leaving the box?<<< yes, it gets to the user >>> Have you tried another email account other than yahoo?<<< the problem does occur outside of yahoo. So it is not a yahoo domain keys problem __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping
Is this possibly related to the issue with the yahoo domain keys? That sent just a bit too early :) Back in the early versions of Declude when yahoo introduced domain keys Declude was somehow keying in on the domain key as part of the subject. For example it was causing havoc with some tests like subjectchar's. In your case is the initial confim response getting back to the user? Or is the response never leaving the box? I only ask this because its not clear from the logs below which response that is. Have you tried another email account other than yahoo? Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: "D Rap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:01 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping OK, this is first a subscribe request then a response to the subscribe 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 IMailSRV message received! 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 NPC: o:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=M93XVyinEWIzFXYmij9amk4vif4o2TQ/0GLu+ouS2YVRz0oVWIHqow7gfqRYxqW12IP 06/14/2006 01:52:27 Qa4180afe00329571 Handling a subscribe request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 C:\IMAIL\Declude\confirm.eml 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from S<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from NRCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Done sending confirmation. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 IMailSRV message received! 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 NPC: o:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OfIpMNd8SROsOatFKWF9+ktgLtFokl6Ob4P6ddbt5A9eIPy6RE3pgI/h3Kloyc5paaM 06/14/2006 01:53:49 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Handling a subscribe request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 C:\IMAIL\Declude\confirm.eml 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from S<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from NRCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.705 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.705 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Done sending confirmation. The subject I received was Confirmation Required (confirmation 0a4180afe00329571534d44) and then the second was Confirmation Required (confirmation #0a46b03bd00d2d880534d44) --- "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you use LOGLEVEL DEBUG that will give you more information. It would also be interesting to note the subject line, as that is where the confirmation information is. Please note, Declude 1.75 is 3 years old, so information about problems with Confirm for that version would be hard to find. Remember, at that stage, Declude Confirm was a free value added product. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Rap > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:23 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping > > All I've seen in documentation is > All is I see is LOGLEVEL HIGH > not a debug mode. Is that what you mean? > > I tried that mode, and it yielded no extra data.. just > > 06/13/2006 23:07:44 Q7d7e0a3c0036c98f Handling a > subscribe request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] for > each with a different code for each item. > > --- "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Have you put the Confirm log into Debug mode? If > > not, please do so and then > > post a snippet for one message of all lines. > > > > John T > > eServices For You > > > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Rap > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:14 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems > > to be looping > > > > > > Using Declude 1.75 and Imail 7.15 > > > > > > It appears Declude Confirm has been looping > > > > > > When a subscribe message is sent, a confirmation > > > message is sent out and 2 files go into the > > confirm > > > spool directory. When the user replies they just > > get > > > another confirmation message and another 2 files > > go > > > into the confirm spool directory. T
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping
Is this possibly related to the issue with the yahoo domain keys? Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: "D Rap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:01 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping OK, this is first a subscribe request then a response to the subscribe 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 IMailSRV message received! 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 NPC: o:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=M93XVyinEWIzFXYmij9amk4vif4o2TQ/0GLu+ouS2YVRz0oVWIHqow7gfqRYxqW12IP 06/14/2006 01:52:27 Qa4180afe00329571 Handling a subscribe request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 C:\IMAIL\Declude\confirm.eml 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from S<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from NRCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:52:27.252 Qa4180afe00329571 Done sending confirmation. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 IMailSRV message received! 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 NPC: o:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OfIpMNd8SROsOatFKWF9+ktgLtFokl6Ob4P6ddbt5A9eIPy6RE3pgI/h3Kloyc5paaM 06/14/2006 01:53:49 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Handling a subscribe request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 C:\IMAIL\Declude\confirm.eml 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from S<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from NRCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.689 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.705 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Changing from R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>. 06/14/2006 01:53:49.705 Qa46b03bd00d2d880 Done sending confirmation. The subject I received was Confirmation Required (confirmation 0a4180afe00329571534d44) and then the second was Confirmation Required (confirmation #0a46b03bd00d2d880534d44) --- "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you use LOGLEVEL DEBUG that will give you more information. It would also be interesting to note the subject line, as that is where the confirmation information is. Please note, Declude 1.75 is 3 years old, so information about problems with Confirm for that version would be hard to find. Remember, at that stage, Declude Confirm was a free value added product. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Rap > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:23 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems to be looping > > All I've seen in documentation is > All is I see is LOGLEVEL HIGH > not a debug mode. Is that what you mean? > > I tried that mode, and it yielded no extra data.. just > > 06/13/2006 23:07:44 Q7d7e0a3c0036c98f Handling a > subscribe request from [EMAIL PROTECTED] for > each with a different code for each item. > > --- "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Have you put the Confirm log into Debug mode? If > > not, please do so and then > > post a snippet for one message of all lines. > > > > John T > > eServices For You > > > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Rap > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:14 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Confirm seems > > to be looping > > > > > > Using Declude 1.75 and Imail 7.15 > > > > > > It appears Declude Confirm has been looping > > > > > > When a subscribe message is sent, a confirmation > > > message is sent out and 2 files go into the > > confirm > > > spool directory. When the user replies they just > > get > > > another confirmation message and another 2 files > > go > > > into the confirm spool directory. This repeats on > > all > > > replies to the confirm email. > > > > > > If you try this from a domain that is hosted by my > > > iMail server this problem does not occur, confirm > > > works properly. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing > > list. To > > > unsubscribe,
