Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Sounds good - do you have more details (short instructions) on how to set that up combined with declude/imail? Thanks! Doug Traylor schrieb: If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating some of the work to a gateway. ASSP is a great addition to an overworked Imail/Declude server and will reduce the amount of email that server has to cope with. It is free and will run on the same server as Imail/Declude or on another spare box under Windows or Linux. It will do envelope rejection of invalid recipients, invalid senders, invalid HELO, etc. It is very configurable, and will even do automatic blacklisting of IP's that misbehave. It also has an active development group. see: http://assp.sourceforge.net/ http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Spam_SMTP_Proxy Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Hello Thanks for your answer. So I understand it can not be done to reject invalid senders simply by using Declude/Imail? I really need another product? Also another question: I use per domain configuration for Junkmail - can it be configured so that it only performs the tests on mails that go to a domain that has been set up with a configuration folder? It seems like declude is doing the tests on all mails which uses more ressources than doing the tests only when required (as defined in per domain config) Thanks Andy Schmidt schrieb: Hi, Basically, you should put a mail gateway in front of your mail server that can integrate your list of valid email recipients and that can refuse most of your messages based on your anti-spam and anti-virus policies. One option would be to run Declude's own gateway product. However, to me a crucial element of a gateway is that it MUST reject messages DURING the SMTP envelope (e.g., after the data is received but before the receipt is confirmed with a 2xx.). This way, the gateway can refuse unwanted messages with a 5xx (or 4xx) return code and the SENDING SMTP server will inform its user. It is an absolute must in case of the occasional false positive. At least a "good" sender will be notified that there's a problem with their email. If a gateway first accepts messages and THEN scans them, it would need to generate "bounce" messages AFTER the fact. The result is a very high likelihood that your system will be spamming innocent email users whose address had been faked. I simply can't consider any gateway product that doesn't do spam/virus rejection DURING the SMTP envelope! One alternative could be to set up IIS SMTP on one of your machines, point your MX there, purchase ORF and then integrate it with Sniffer so that it can reject the vast majority of your spam. If you also bring your list of valid email recipients over to that IIS/ORF/Sniffer gateway, then you can reject invalid recipients (e.g., dictionary attacks) at that machine, instead of tying up Imail with that. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:59 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder
That worked - thanks to you and to Bonno Blocksma Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb: Drop down to the command prompt and delete them that way change to your virus directory and do del /q /s *.smd and let it run... Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: "netsolution webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder. I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or whatever because of the huge number of files. Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files? Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU
With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder
I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder. I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or whatever because of the huge number of files. Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files? Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
1) as we know everyone can scan for viruses and for spam locally on their pc 2) so we tell them that when they do it on the server they save bandwidth and cost plus they don't have to waste time on setting it up locally and maintain it 3) so we charge a (small) per user fee per month for virus & spam protection 4) we move all spam to a special "spam" pop account so the customer sees how much gets filtered plus he has a change to review spam mail 4) we offer a 14 day trial for the service - after this everyone subscribes to it... The small fee should at least cover the cost of av/spam software involved, so when prices go up we look for other products that can do the same thing, or if we are satisfied with how it works (with spam) we don't renew the service agreement and stay at the current version But generally hosting business was more fun 5-6 years ago... Andrew Dave Beckstrom schrieb: Email only makes money for spammers. Declude and the other mail tools are an expense not a revenue generator. Adding CommTouch just adds to overhead without generating any revenue. I'm glad its an option and doesn't affect the rest of Declude. Declude is already at the upper limit of what we're willing to spend on a tool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:51 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 Gary, 1. Server Providers who use CommTouch as an add-in to Declude will be in violation of CommTouch's Terms of service. 2. Some of the benefits of CommTouch are Zero Hour virus protection and additional spam identifying technology such as Recurrent Pattern Detection Technology (RPD) recognized by key industry analysts as a leading technology in email outbreak detection. 3. We are in the process of defining the revenue share program and will provide the details to this when it is ready. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:09 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 So, that being said, under what conditions can a legacy customer use Commtouch? Since it would seem that Commtouch is being offered as an add-on, what are the benefits of having Commtouch? What does it do that Declude alone does not? And of course it would be nice if this "revenue share program" was spelled out somewhere. Original Message From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:57 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers we had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 June 06) understand the licensing restrictions. Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in component. However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to enable our legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June 06) to take advantage of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this program is not being forced onto legacy customers but will be an opportunity for us to help you increase revenues in your business, by providing you with new product like the Declude Gateway which would be independent of Imail/SmarterMail and will include CommTouch. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license agreement: 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise transfer the Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User License Agreement unless You obtain a separate License from Declude, Inc. for such purposes (for example, You may not embed the Licensed Program into another application and then distribute such to third parties unless You first acquire an OEM License from Declude, Inc.). As of June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not permitted to use Declude software to clean and forward mail to customers unless a separate revenue share agreement has been established with Declude. http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121 Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the software and now have to pay them some of your meager profits? John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 I guess someone