RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bogus IP in headers

2003-09-25 Thread Keith Anderson

Especially if the mail server is behind any decent firewall.

 The problem here is that E-mail will almost never come from those 
 IPs.  Spoofing a TCP/IP is extremely difficult to do, and 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bogus IP in headers

2003-09-23 Thread R. Scott Perry

I couldn't locate a message with headers to show you for the Bogus IP:
UNIX: localhost, but I did find one of the Bogus IP: ?.?.?.? messages,
here are the headers (again, e-mail addresses changed to protect the
innocent):

Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 
00:42:24 -
Here, the IP actually *is* ?.?.?.? per the mailcity.com 
mailserver.  Although Declude JunkMail did determine the correct IP of the 
sourec of the E-mail, it did indeed scan 0.0.0.0 in this case.  Code has 
been added for the next release to automatically skip over non-IPs like this.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Bogus IP in headers

2003-09-22 Thread Bill Landry
Scott, looks like people are starting to try and hide their internal IP
address through some rather bazaar means.  We have been getting quite a few
of these (e-mail addresses changed to protect the innocent):

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09/22/2003 11:00:41 Q38c433940072f11a Bogus IP: UNIX: localhost
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a LBL:3 NOMOREFUNN:2 VISI-RELAY:3
nIPNOTINMX:-3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 HELO-FILTER:-10 REVDNS
-FILTER:-5 ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1:1 .  Total weight = -14
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Msg failed LBL
(0.0.0.0.lbl.lagengymnastik.dk.). Action=IGNORE.
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Msg failed NOMOREFUNN
(0.0.0.0.no-more-funn.moensted.dk.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Msg failed VISI-RELAY (Mail from
0.0.0.0 refused -- see http://relays.visi.com/lookup.c
gi?ipaddr=0.0.0.0). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Msg failed HELO-FILTER (Message failed
HELO-FILTER test (122)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Msg failed REVDNS-FILTER (Message
failed REVDNS-FILTER test (78)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Msg failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1 (Message
failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1: 12.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a L1 Message OK
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a Subject: ipn Website Focus Group
Opportunity
09/22/2003 11:00:48 Q38c433940072f11a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 198.88.144.42 ID: 423
6CADF58
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And a few of these, as well:

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09/22/2003 17:43:40 Q9709116000502df7 Bogus IP: ?.?.?.?
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 BLARSBL:2 COMPU:2 LBL:3 NOMOREFUNN:2
VISI-RELAY:3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 GIBBERISH-FILTER:5 HEADERS-FILTER:5
MAILFROM-FILTER:10 NOGIBBERISH-FILTER:-5 REVDNS-FILTER:-10
ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1:1 ALLIGATE-SPAM-L2:2 SNIFFER-GENERAL:12 SPAMCHECK:-3 .
Total weight = 24
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed BLARSBL (This E-mail came
from 209.202.220.160, a potential spam source listed in BLARSBL.).
Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed COMPU (Sender IP:
209.202.220.138). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed LBL
(0.0.0.0.lbl.lagengymnastik.dk.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed NOMOREFUNN
(0.0.0.0.no-more-funn.moensted.dk.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed VISI-RELAY (Mail from
0.0.0.0 refused -- see http://relays.visi.com/lookup.cgi?ipaddr=0.0.0.0).
Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed GIBBERISH-FILTER (Message
failed GIBBERISH-FILTER test (132)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed HEADERS-FILTER (Message
failed HEADERS-FILTER test (58)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed MAILFROM-FILTER (Message
failed MAILFROM-FILTER test (1096)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed NOGIBBERISH-FILTER (Message
failed NOGIBBERISH-FILTER test (52)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed REVDNS-FILTER (Message
failed REVDNS-FILTER test (59)). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1 (Message
failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1: 30.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L2 (Message
failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L2: 30.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed SNIFFER-GENERAL (Message
failed SNIFFER-GENERAL: 63.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed SPAMCHECK (Message failed
SPAMCHECK: -3.). Action=WARN.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Msg failed WEIGHT16-35 (Total weight
between 16 and 35.). Action=HOLD.
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 Subject: resume submission
09/22/2003 17:43:47 Q9709116000502df7 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 209.202.220.160 ID: D67DAADE47
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The problem with this is that if you using HOPHIGH 1 or greater, JunkMail is
running tests against the 0.0.0.0 address and coming back from the IP4R and
RHSBLs with a match.  I would request that JunkMail be set to never run
tests against the 0.0.0.0 IP address, unless that IP address actually shows
up in the received headers.

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bogus IP in headers

2003-09-22 Thread R. Scott Perry

Scott, looks like people are starting to try and hide their internal IP
address through some rather bazaar means.  We have been getting quite a few
of these (e-mail addresses changed to protect the innocent):
Do you have the full (or at least all the Received:) headers of such an E-mail?

This should only happen if there is a gateway that is not properly 
recording the IP of the remote mailserver.

The problem with this is that if you using HOPHIGH 1 or greater, JunkMail is
running tests against the 0.0.0.0 address and coming back from the IP4R and
RHSBLs with a match.  I would request that JunkMail be set to never run
tests against the 0.0.0.0 IP address, unless that IP address actually shows
up in the received headers.
Declude JunkMail is already programmed to skip the IP-based spam tests if 
the IP is 0.0.0.0.  Unfortunately, while Declude JunkMail is able to scan 
multiple hops, there is a wide variety of formats that mailservers use to 
record IPs (since recording IPs isn't mandatory, so some do strange things 
like include the IP address in a non-standard format within a comment), and 
there are ways spammers can bypass them.  For example, if a mailserver 
doesn't use the proper format of from hostname.example.com [192.0.2.25], 
but instead uses from hostname.example.com (192.0.2.25), then a spammer 
could use a HELO of [0.0.0.0], which would change that to from [0.0.0.0] 
(192.0.2.25), in which case Declude JunkMail would see the IP as 0.0.0.0 
(which in fact it is in this case, according to the RFCs).

Hopefully, from the headers, I will be able to see if Declude JunkMail can 
be doing anything differently to handle this, and see why it may be looking 
up 0.0.0.0.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bogus IP in headers

2003-09-22 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Do you have the full (or at least all the Received:) headers of such an
E-mail?

I couldn't locate a message with headers to show you for the Bogus IP:
UNIX: localhost, but I did find one of the Bogus IP: ?.?.?.? messages,
here are the headers (again, e-mail addresses changed to protect the
innocent):

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Received: from gw1.pointshare.com [204.189.38.4] by
intramail01.pointshare.net with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.02) id A70911600050; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:42:49 -0700
Received: from lycos.com (www3.mail.lycos.com [209.202.220.160])
 by gw1.pointshare.com (Mail Gateway) with SMTP id D67DAADE47
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue, 23 Sep 2003
00:42:24 -
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:42:24 -0400
From: Anish Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Sent-Mail: off
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: MailCity Service
X-Priority: 3
Subject: resume submission
X-Sender-Ip: 140.142.172.166
Organization: Lycos Mail  (http://www.mail.lycos.com:80)
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_-=_-IMMLKNJOFNOHJHAA
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALFROM: (291504208)
X-Alligate-In: FAILED - Score Adult: 9 (Req: 35) Spam: 21 (Req: 50) Tot: 30
(Req: 6)
X-Alligate-Tracking: 68886B86F3287CD0
X-Alligate-Signature: 884897994
X-Alligate-SpoolFile: D9709116000502df7.SMD
X-Alligate-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [209.202.220.160]
X-RBL-Warning: BLARSBL: This E-mail came from 209.202.220.160, a potential
spam source listed in BLARSBL.
X-RBL-Warning: COMPU: Sender IP: 209.202.220.138
X-RBL-Warning: LBL: 0.0.0.0.lbl.lagengymnastik.dk.
X-RBL-Warning: NOMOREFUNN: 0.0.0.0.no-more-funn.moensted.dk.
X-RBL-Warning: VISI-RELAY: Mail from 0.0.0.0 refused -- see
http://relays.visi.com/lookup.cgi?ipaddr=0.0.0.0
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH-FILTER: Message failed GIBBERISH-FILTER test (132)
X-RBL-Warning: HEADERS-FILTER: Message failed HEADERS-FILTER test (58)
X-RBL-Warning: MAILFROM-FILTER: Message failed MAILFROM-FILTER test (1096)
X-RBL-Warning: NOGIBBERISH-FILTER: Message failed NOGIBBERISH-FILTER test
(52)
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS-FILTER: Message failed REVDNS-FILTER test (59)
X-RBL-Warning: ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1: Message failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L1: 30.
X-RBL-Warning: ALLIGATE-SPAM-L2: Message failed ALLIGATE-SPAM-L2: 30.
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER-GENERAL: Message failed SNIFFER-GENERAL: 63.
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCHECK: Message failed SPAMCHECK: -3.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [209.202.220.160]
X-Note: This e-mail was scanned for viruses  filtered for spam
X-Queue-File: D9709116000502df7.SMD - incoming
X-Note: Total spam test weight: 24
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Bill

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[Declude.JunkMail] Bogus IP

2003-08-22 Thread Bill B.
What does this line mean in the declude log:

08/22/2003 08:53:39 Q124905aa0274e442 Bogus IP: ?.?.?.?


Thanks,
Bill


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