[Declude.JunkMail] Novice question, weight gain

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Kruidhof
Scott,

How can I add a weight to this email message?
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The REVDNS hostname is 93.9.60.65.in-addr.arpa, Yes, they have a RDNS entry but it 
does not match the HELO hostname or is a legitimate value.  I would like to add a 
value when this happens.  As more spammers realize that they have to create a RDNS 
entry we need to have a way to verify that it is a correct value.

Should I start a private blacklist?  I am trying to keep this low maintenance.

Thanks,

Mike Kruidhof
Cooking.com, Inc.



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Novice question, weight gain

2003-07-09 Thread R. Scott Perry

How can I add a weight to this email message?
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The REVDNS hostname is 93.9.60.65.in-addr.arpa, Yes, they have a RDNS 
entry but it does not match the HELO hostname or is a legitimate value.  I 
would like to add a value when this happens.  As more spammers realize 
that they have to create a RDNS entry we need to have a way to verify that 
it is a correct value.
The problem is determining whether or not it is a correct value.  For 
example, our mailserver has a reverse DNS entry that doesn't correspond to 
any of the domains that we send from.  Even if it did, would the HELO/EHLO 
our mailserver sends have to be the same for all domains, just so that it 
will match the reverse DNS entry?  It gets difficult doing matching like 
this, unfortunately.

Should I start a private blacklist?  I am trying to keep this low maintenance.
That may be the best thing to do here.  I'm guessing that this is an E-mail 
that resulted from the address being supplied to a company without checking 
the Do not send me any partner offers box.  This type of E-mail can 
technically be considered solicited, which makes it unlikely that their IP 
will get listed in many spam databases.  For this type of E-mail, you often 
have to create your own blacklist (or unsubscribe, which often works for 
this type of E-mail).

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Novice question, weight gain

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Kruidhof
Scott,

I understand your point but would it be possible to do a DNS lookup on the RDNS 
hostname.
The IP address that is returned should match the IP address that they used.
In your case it would match, but in this case 93.9.60.65.in-addr.arpa does not even 
have an record.  I am looking for a way to validate the RDNS hostname.

Thanks again for your quick response,

Mike Kruidhof
Cooking.com, Inc.


How can I add a weight to this email message?
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The REVDNS hostname is 93.9.60.65.in-addr.arpa, Yes, they have a RDNS
entry but it does not match the HELO hostname or is a legitimate value.  I
would like to add a value when this happens.  As more spammers realize
that they have to create a RDNS entry we need to have a way to verify that
it is a correct value.

The problem is determining whether or not it is a correct value.  For
example, our mailserver has a reverse DNS entry that doesn't correspond to
any of the domains that we send from.  Even if it did, would the HELO/EHLO
our mailserver sends have to be the same for all domains, just so that it
will match the reverse DNS entry?  It gets difficult doing matching like
this, unfortunately.

Should I start a private blacklist?  I am trying to keep this low maintenance.

That may be the best thing to do here.  I'm guessing that this is an E-mail
that resulted from the address being supplied to a company without checking
the Do not send me any partner offers box.  This type of E-mail can
technically be considered solicited, which makes it unlikely that their IP
will get listed in many spam databases.  For this type of E-mail, you often
have to create your own blacklist (or unsubscribe, which often works for
this type of E-mail).

  -Scott
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h:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Novice question, weight gain

2003-07-09 Thread Nathan Fouarge
Please remember to restart the services too...  :)  Glad I could help.

 


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Scott,

I understand your point but would it be possible to do a DNS lookup on the
RDNS hostname.
The IP address that is returned should match the IP address that they used.
In your case it would match, but in this case 93.9.60.65.in-addr.arpa does
not even have an record.  I am looking for a way to validate the RDNS
hostname.

Thanks again for your quick response,

Mike Kruidhof
Cooking.com, Inc.


How can I add a weight to this email message?
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The REVDNS hostname is 93.9.60.65.in-addr.arpa, Yes, they have a RDNS 
entry but it does not match the HELO hostname or is a legitimate 
value.  I would like to add a value when this happens.  As more 
spammers realize that they have to create a RDNS entry we need to have 
a way to verify that it is a correct value.

The problem is determining whether or not it is a correct value.  For 
example, our mailserver has a reverse DNS entry that doesn't correspond 
to any of the domains that we send from.  Even if it did, would the 
HELO/EHLO our mailserver sends have to be the same for all domains, 
just so that it will match the reverse DNS entry?  It gets difficult 
doing matching like this, unfortunately.

Should I start a private blacklist?  I am trying to keep this low
maintenance.

That may be the best thing to do here.  I'm guessing that this is an 
E-mail that resulted from the address being supplied to a company 
without checking the Do not send me any partner offers box.  This 
type of E-mail can technically be considered solicited, which makes it 
unlikely that their IP will get listed in many spam databases.  For 
this type of E-mail, you often have to create your own blacklist (or 
unsubscribe, which often works for this type of E-mail).

  -Scott
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