Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice

2005-07-08 Thread William Stillwell

Rebuttals in line.. (yeah, OT alright)

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From: Marc Catuogno [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice


I have a great deal of respect for the people on this list and I hope you
don't feel this is a waste of time. I got this e-mail from one of my agents
and I am going to share it with the entire company - I thought maybe some of
you would care to do the same. I searched Hoasbusters.org first and called
the numbers and they are legit.


ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE Read this and make a copy for your files in
case you need to refer to it someday. Maybe we should all take some of his
advice!

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company

1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of first
name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they will
not know if you sign your checks with just your initials or your first name,
but your bank will know how you sign your checks.

[Banks don't check the signature.. ]

2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put PHOTO ID
REQUIRED.

[Businesses can reject the card]

3. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT
put the complete account number on the For line Instead, just put the last
four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and
anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check
processing channels won't have access to it

[I don't pay my bills via my checking account]

4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you
have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a PO
Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks.
(DUH!) You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it printed, anyone
can get it.

[some states use the SS as the driver's license #, also, use Cell # 
instead.]


5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides
of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet
and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep
the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when
I travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud
that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number,
credit cards.

[I never carry my SS card, just my DL and 1 CC, Nobody needs your SS card, 
there

fore, you don't need to carry it!]

+6. Shread your bills.. or keep them filed away in a secure place, leave 
your name

out of your garbage!

+7. Don't leave your name on your answering machine., better yet, use the 
Stock

message

+8 Don't answer any Surveys regarding how many household members, dogs, 
cats
, or how many hours your family watches tvs, and or how many tvs you own, or 
computers

etc to anybody over the phone, Unless its the US-Census sending you a
Survery, you can't gaurrentee the person on the other line is a robber 
casing your

house or a survey company.. (this goes for businnesses as well, Why would
they need to know how many servers I own!, Query my Ins company, thats what
there for.)

+9 If you have a security camera system, don't leave the VCR/DVR in an easy 
to

access location :-)



Unfortunately, I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet
was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive
monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit
line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to
change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some
critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or
someone you know:

1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the
key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know
whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit
cards, etc., were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent,
and this is a first step toward an investigation
(if there ever is one.)

But here's what is perhaps most important of all : (I never even thought to
do this.)

3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a
fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of
doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for
credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company
that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to
contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all
the damage had been done There are records of all the credit checks
initiated by the thieves' purchases

[Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice

2005-07-07 Thread Marc Catuogno
I have a great deal of respect for the people on this list and I hope you
don't feel this is a waste of time. I got this e-mail from one of my agents
and I am going to share it with the entire company - I thought maybe some of
you would care to do the same. I searched Hoasbusters.org first and called
the numbers and they are legit.


ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE Read this and make a copy for your files in
case you need to refer to it someday. Maybe we should all take some of his
advice! 

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company 

1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of first
name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they will
not know if you sign your checks with just your initials or your first name,
but your bank will know how you sign your checks. 

2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put PHOTO ID
REQUIRED. 

3. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT
put the complete account number on the For line Instead, just put the last
four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and
anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check
processing channels won't have access to it 

4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you
have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a PO
Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks.
(DUH!) You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it printed, anyone
can get it. 

5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides
of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet
and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep
the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when
I travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud
that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number,
credit cards. 

Unfortunately, I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet
was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive
monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit
line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to
change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some
critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or
someone you know: 

1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the
key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know
whom to call. Keep those where you can find them. 

2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit
cards, etc., were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent,
and this is a first step toward an investigation 
(if there ever is one.) 

But here's what is perhaps most important of all :  (I never even thought to
do this.) 

3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a
fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of
doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for
credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company
that  checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to
contact you by phone to authorize new credit. 

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all
the damage had been done There are records of all the credit checks
initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before
placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the
thieves threw my wallet away This weekend (someone turned it in). It seems
to have stopped them dead in their tracks. 

Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet, etc,
has been stolen: 
1.) Equifax: 1-800-525-6285 
2.) Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742 
3.) Trans Union: 1-800-680-7289 
4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271 

We pass along jokes on the Internet; we pass along just about everything.
But if you are willing to pass this information along, it could really help
someone that you care about.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice

2005-07-07 Thread Dan Geiser
And here's the obligatory page from Snopes, 
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/credit.htm.


- Original Message - 
From: Marc Catuogno [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice


I have a great deal of respect for the people on this list and I hope you
don't feel this is a waste of time. I got this e-mail from one of my agents
and I am going to share it with the entire company - I thought maybe some of
you would care to do the same. I searched Hoasbusters.org first and called
the numbers and they are legit.


ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE Read this and make a copy for your files in
case you need to refer to it someday. Maybe we should all take some of his
advice!

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company

1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of first
name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they will
not know if you sign your checks with just your initials or your first name,
but your bank will know how you sign your checks.

2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put PHOTO ID
REQUIRED.

3. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT
put the complete account number on the For line Instead, just put the last
four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and
anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check
processing channels won't have access to it

4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you
have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a PO
Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks.
(DUH!) You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it printed, anyone
can get it.

5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides
of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet
and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep
the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when
I travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud
that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number,
credit cards.

Unfortunately, I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet
was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive
monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit
line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to
change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some
critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or
someone you know:

1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the
key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know
whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit
cards, etc., were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent,
and this is a first step toward an investigation
(if there ever is one.)

But here's what is perhaps most important of all : (I never even thought to
do this.)

3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a
fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of
doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for
credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company
that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to
contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all
the damage had been done There are records of all the credit checks
initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before
placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the
thieves threw my wallet away This weekend (someone turned it in). It seems
to have stopped them dead in their tracks.

Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet, etc,
has been stolen:
1.) Equifax: 1-800-525-6285
2.) Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742
3.) Trans Union: 1-800-680-7289
4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271

We pass along jokes on the Internet; we pass along just about everything.
But if you are willing to pass this information along, it could really help
someone that you care about.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice

2005-07-07 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Here is a personal experience that proves the bit about initials on checks
is wrong:

Doing my monthly personal bills, I inadvertently sent my water payment check
to the mortgage company. Guess what, they processed it and applied it to our
account. 

So, if a bank does not even check to see who the check is written to, why
would you expect them to check who the check is from?

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:21 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice
 
 And here's the obligatory page from Snopes,
 http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/credit.htm.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Marc Catuogno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: Anti- Identity theft advice
 
 
 I have a great deal of respect for the people on this list and I hope you
 don't feel this is a waste of time. I got this e-mail from one of my
agents
 and I am going to share it with the entire company - I thought maybe some
of
 you would care to do the same. I searched Hoasbusters.org first and called
 the numbers and they are legit.
 
 
 ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE Read this and make a copy for your files in
 case you need to refer to it someday. Maybe we should all take some of his
 advice!
 
 A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his
company
 
 1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of
first
 name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they
will
 not know if you sign your checks with just your initials or your first
name,
 but your bank will know how you sign your checks.
 
 2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put PHOTO ID
 REQUIRED.
 
 3. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT
 put the complete account number on the For line Instead, just put the
last
 four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and
 anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check
 processing channels won't have access to it
 
 4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you
 have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a
PO
 Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks.
 (DUH!) You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it printed,
anyone
 can get it.
 
 5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides
 of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your
wallet
 and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep
 the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport
when
 I travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud
 that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security
number,
 credit cards.
 
 Unfortunately, I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet
 was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive
 monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit
 line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to
 change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some
 critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or
 someone you know:
 
 1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But
the
 key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you
know
 whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.
 
 2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit
 cards, etc., were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were
diligent,
 and this is a first step toward an investigation
 (if there ever is one.)
 
 But here's what is perhaps most important of all : (I never even thought
to
 do this.)
 
 3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place
a
 fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of
 doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application
for
 credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company
 that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have
to
 contact you by phone to authorize new credit.
 
 By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft,
all
 the damage had been done There are records of all the credit checks
 initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before
 placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the
 thieves threw my wallet away This weekend (someone turned it in). It seems
 to have stopped them dead in their tracks.
 
 Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet,
etc