[Declude.JunkMail] from name test

2003-04-02 Thread Helpdesk
I was wondering if Declude would consider adding a test that looks for long
or strange from names before the @ in the from address of a message. It
would be used as a weighted test. It might help push some e-mails into the
delete weight range.

Here are some examples of strange from addresses -

perf-errors.5332.190355.27764420.501.0.1@
b.LuckyDeals.0-13eeb71-7071.acsworld.net.-pizza@
tdm-errors.900041841.190499.962054006.009.0.2@
b-165677082-2612_-402086880@
cid=2-uid=28916792-mid=400--@
b.server1.c-142d04a-35b0.acsworld.com.-hlr77@

Thanks,
Greg

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] from name test

2003-04-02 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi Greg,

Our free tool SPAMCHK (www.riedmann.it/spamchk) makes already some of
this tests:

SenderWithCode=6
SenderWithCodeMaybe=3
DigitsForCode=8
DigitsForCodeMaybe=4

With this parameters you can give 3 points for from-adresses with more
then 4 digits and 6 points for senders with more then 8 digits. Feel
free to change the digit number and the points you want to give.

Additional there is a test that searches for unreadable sequences of
consonants in the from-adress:

ConsUnreadable=4
ConsUnreadableMaybe=3
SenderUnreadable=2
SenderUnreadableMaybe=1
FreqConsSequences=sch,ch,ck,nk,ng,nt,nd,rnst

This will give 1 point if there are at least 3 following consonants and
2 points if there are at least 4 following consonants.
You can specify frequent used consonants that wouldn't count for this
test.


All of the from-adresses you've listed will recieve at least 6 points
from SPAMCHK.


Markus


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] from name test

2003-04-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

I was wondering if Declude would consider adding a test that looks for long
or strange from names before the @ in the from address of a message. It
would be used as a weighted test. It might help push some e-mails into the
delete weight range.
Here are some examples of strange from addresses -

perf-errors.5332.190355.27764420.501.0.1@
b.LuckyDeals.0-13eeb71-7071.acsworld.net.-pizza@
tdm-errors.900041841.190499.962054006.009.0.2@
b-165677082-2612_-402086880@
cid=2-uid=28916792-mid=400--@
b.server1.c-142d04a-35b0.acsworld.com.-hlr77@
FWIW, there are many mailing list programs that will send out mail this way 
as well (typically with the recipient's address appearing somehow as part 
of the username, such as list-return-735-user=example.com@.  So a test 
that was able to detect the long/strange usernames would likely also catch 
mailing lists (which as it is already tend to have high weights).
-Scott

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] from name test

2003-04-02 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 With  this  parameters  you can give 3 points for from-adresses with
 more then 4 digits and 6 points for senders with more then 8 digits.
 Feel  free  to  change  the  digit number and the points you want to
 give.

This  really  is highly fragile answer. The VERP RFC, for one example,
all   but   mandates  what  would  be  considered  long  Return-Path
addresses.  For  another  example,  one  of our custom spam management
extensionssendsoutwarningsfrom   addresses   such   as
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   in   order  to
automatically  process  bounces--very helpful for us, but squelched by
SPAMCHK.

I  would  just  warn  everyone  to be aware of the likelihood of false
positives,  especially  from  well-behaved, even distinctly anti-spam,
sources.

-Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] from name test

2003-04-02 Thread Adam Hobach
Greg,

Is there a tutorial on what all these tests mean???

SenderWithCode=6
SenderWithCodeMaybe=3
DigitsForCode=8
DigitsForCodeMaybe=4

Its nice to assign a weight but I am unsure what all the different mean in
the config file...

Thanks,

Adam



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Hi Greg,

Our free tool SPAMCHK (www.riedmann.it/spamchk) makes already some of
this tests:

SenderWithCode=6
SenderWithCodeMaybe=3
DigitsForCode=8
DigitsForCodeMaybe=4

With this parameters you can give 3 points for from-adresses with more
then 4 digits and 6 points for senders with more then 8 digits. Feel
free to change the digit number and the points you want to give.

Additional there is a test that searches for unreadable sequences of
consonants in the from-adress:

ConsUnreadable=4
ConsUnreadableMaybe=3
SenderUnreadable=2
SenderUnreadableMaybe=1
FreqConsSequences=sch,ch,ck,nk,ng,nt,nd,rnst

This will give 1 point if there are at least 3 following consonants and
2 points if there are at least 4 following consonants.
You can specify frequent used consonants that wouldn't count for this
test.


All of the from-adresses you've listed will recieve at least 6 points
from SPAMCHK.


Markus


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