Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus got past declude

2006-11-09 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Kevin,

It's my understanding that newer versions of 
Smartermail do not require the file to have the "X" prepended. When the 
user requeues the message do you drop it into the smartermail spool or the 
declude proc directory? In order for it to be rescanned by Declude you 
need to drop it into the proc folder. Also, there is no way to the best of 
my knowledge to say just virus process this requeued message.

Maybe you can (on the requeue process) append 
somethign to the message that Declude Junkmail will force it to be 
whitelisted. THis way it wont be held again but will get processed by 
declude virus.

Darrell

Check 
out http://www.invariantsystems.com for 
utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Bilbee 
  To: JunkMail Declude 
  Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:42 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus 
  got past declude
  
  
  I know why the virus got past Declude but I would like to 
  know how to stop it in the future.
  
  We have the AFTERJUNKMAIL directive on. So the message was 
  trapped as spam and then when the user re-queued the message it was delivered 
  to the users mailbox. Is there a way to get Declude to virus scan messages 
  that have been re-queued and not do the spam checks?
  
  What I am unclear on is how Declude interacts with 
  SmarterMail
  
  This is what I think happens.
  1. 
  SmarterMail 3.x receives a message and places it into 
  the proc folder for Declude to process it
  2. 
  On HOLD action Declude moves the message to the hold 
  folder
  3. 
  A message is re-queued into the SmarterMail spool 
  folder with an “X” pre-prepended to the file name.
  4. 
  SmarterMail then delivers the message to the 
  mailbox
  
  Does Declude ever see a message that has been placed back 
  into the SmarterMail spool?
  Should I be placing these messages back into the proc 
  folder for Declude to move them to the spool folder
  
  
  I would like to see Declude virus scan all message that are 
  not deleted by JunkMail even if they are held.
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus got past declude

2006-11-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee








I was afraid of that. It would
be great to be able to re-queue and only virus scan or better yet virus can all
message that do not get deleted by junkmail including held messages. Then if
HELD and VIRUS the hold as virus not as spam.





Kevin Bilbee







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:57 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus got past declude









Kevin,











It's
my understanding that newer versions of Smartermail do not require the file to
have the X prepended. When the user requeues the message do
you drop it into the smartermail spool or the declude proc directory? In
order for it to be rescanned by Declude you need to drop it into the proc
folder. Also, there is no way to the best of my knowledge to say just
virus process this requeued message.











Maybe
you can (on the requeue process) append somethign to the message that Declude
Junkmail will force it to be whitelisted. THis way it wont be held again
but will get processed by declude virus.











Darrell












Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com
for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue
Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.







-
Original Message - 





From: Kevin Bilbee 





To: JunkMail
Declude 





Sent: Thursday, November
09, 2006 2:42 PM





Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
2001 Virus got past declude









I know why the virus got past Declude but I would like to
know how to stop it in the future.



We have the AFTERJUNKMAIL directive on. So the message was
trapped as spam and then when the user re-queued the message it was delivered
to the users mailbox. Is there a way to get Declude to virus scan messages that
have been re-queued and not do the spam checks?



What I am unclear on is how Declude interacts with
SmarterMail



This is what I think happens.

1.
SmarterMail 3.x receives a message and places it into the proc folder
for Declude to process it

2.
On HOLD action Declude moves the message to the hold folder

3.
A message is re-queued into the SmarterMail spool folder with an “X”
pre-prepended to the file name.

4.
SmarterMail then delivers the message to the mailbox



Does Declude ever see a message that has been placed back
into the SmarterMail spool?

Should I be placing these messages back into the proc folder
for Declude to move them to the spool folder





I would like to see Declude virus scan all message that are
not deleted by JunkMail even if they are held.







Kevin Bilbee


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus got past declude

2006-11-09 Thread Dean Lawrence

Kevin,

Since messages that are being held are not going to be immediately
moved out of that folder (like actively being processed messages), why
don't you have your on-access virus scanner monitor the hold
directory. This way the messages will be scanned and deleted if
infected.

Dean

On 11/9/06, Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I was afraid of that. It would be great to be able to re-queue and only
virus scan or better yet virus can all message that do not get deleted by
junkmail including held messages. Then if HELD and VIRUS the hold as virus
not as spam.





Kevin Bilbee




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:57 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus got past declude





Kevin,





It's my understanding that newer versions of Smartermail do not require the
file to have the X prepended.  When the user requeues the message do you
drop it into the smartermail spool or the declude proc directory?  In order
for it to be rescanned by Declude you need to drop it into the proc folder.
Also, there is no way to the best of my knowledge to say just virus process
this requeued message.





Maybe you can (on the requeue process) append somethign to the message that
Declude Junkmail will force it to be whitelisted.  THis way it wont be held
again but will get processed by declude virus.





Darrell






Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers.


- Original Message -


From: Kevin Bilbee


To: JunkMail Declude


Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:42 PM


Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 2001 Virus got past declude




I know why the virus got past Declude but I would like to know how to stop
it in the future.



We have the AFTERJUNKMAIL directive on. So the message was trapped as spam
and then when the user re-queued the message it was delivered to the users
mailbox. Is there a way to get Declude to virus scan messages that have been
re-queued and not do the spam checks?



What I am unclear on is how Declude interacts with SmarterMail



This is what I think happens.

1.   SmarterMail 3.x receives a message and places it into the proc
folder for Declude to process it

2.   On HOLD action Declude moves the message to the hold folder

3.   A message is re-queued into the SmarterMail spool folder with an
X pre-prepended to the file name.

4.   SmarterMail then delivers the message to the mailbox



Does Declude ever see a message that has been placed back into the
SmarterMail spool?

Should I be placing these messages back into the proc folder for Declude to
move them to the spool folder





I would like to see Declude virus scan all message that are not deleted by
JunkMail even if they are held.







Kevin Bilbee


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