RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-26 Thread Charles Frolick
You don't have to leave it logged on, you can log in and out remotely
with VNC, you can even lock out the local inputs while in remote mode.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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> I thought Win2003 was supposed to have added console access to
Terminal
> Services (I have some recollection that you are running 2003, could be
> wrong though)?  If you are not running 2003, just install VNC for the
> occasions you need console access. That's what I had to do.

I was using Windows Server 2003 on one server, but that server is no
longer
in use.

Do to business startup and move, I have not had time to do the testing
with
it on Windows Server 2003 in a lab.

I will not leave any production server logged on.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> I thought Win2003 was supposed to have added console access to Terminal
> Services (I have some recollection that you are running 2003, could be
> wrong though)?  If you are not running 2003, just install VNC for the
> occasions you need console access. That's what I had to do.

I was using Windows Server 2003 on one server, but that server is no longer
in use.

Do to business startup and move, I have not had time to do the testing with
it on Windows Server 2003 in a lab.

I will not leave any production server logged on.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-26 Thread Charles Frolick
I don't know what they did, and it is running as a service, but,
SimpleDNS Plus by jhsoftware.com had a similar issue with the need for
console access, however they found a way around it in their beta version
(not publicly released thought). I may have to poke at it a bit to see
if I can figure it out.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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>Along that same line then, as has been discussed before, any thought to
>changing deccon.exe so as to be able to access from other than the
console,
>and other than the lengthy work around we discussed last year but that
I
>have not had the time to try yet?

The problem is that it must run when the system is first started, but it

seems that Terminal Services doesn't have any way to let you access the 
default window.  There may be a way to get around this in Declude, but
we 
haven't stumbled across anything yet.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-26 Thread Charles Frolick
I thought Win2003 was supposed to have added console access to Terminal
Services (I have some recollection that you are running 2003, could be
wrong though)?  If you are not running 2003, just install VNC for the
occasions you need console access. That's what I had to do.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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> >If the console is not being used at all, how does Hijack keep track
of IP
> >addresses?
> 
> It does not.  Without the Declude console running, Declude Hijack will
not
> work.  However, if the \IMail\Deccon.exe file exists, then it will
> automatically get started by Declude Hijack as needed.

Thanks.

Along that same line then, as has been discussed before, any thought to
changing deccon.exe so as to be able to access from other than the
console,
and other than the lengthy work around we discussed last year but that I
have not had the time to try yet?

Not high priority. (Unless of course an IP gets listed ala hold 2 and
the
server has to be restarted.)

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

Along that same line then, as has been discussed before, any thought to
changing deccon.exe so as to be able to access from other than the console,
and other than the lengthy work around we discussed last year but that I
have not had the time to try yet?
The problem is that it must run when the system is first started, but it 
seems that Terminal Services doesn't have any way to let you access the 
default window.  There may be a way to get around this in Declude, but we 
haven't stumbled across anything yet.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> >If the console is not being used at all, how does Hijack keep track of IP
> >addresses?
> 
> It does not.  Without the Declude console running, Declude Hijack will not
> work.  However, if the \IMail\Deccon.exe file exists, then it will
> automatically get started by Declude Hijack as needed.

Thanks.

Along that same line then, as has been discussed before, any thought to
changing deccon.exe so as to be able to access from other than the console,
and other than the lengthy work around we discussed last year but that I
have not had the time to try yet?

Not high priority. (Unless of course an IP gets listed ala hold 2 and the
server has to be restarted.)

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Console and Hijack question

2003-06-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

If the console is not being used at all, how does Hijack keep track of IP
addresses?
It does not.  Without the Declude console running, Declude Hijack will not 
work.  However, if the \IMail\Deccon.exe file exists, then it will 
automatically get started by Declude Hijack as needed.

   -Scott
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