RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Try thinking in terms of a programming language and it will come to light. ;) Avolve Support Get High Speed Internet - Go Wireless ! http://www.avolvewireless.net -- Original Message -- From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:22:38 -0600 You guys see the problem here, right? We're all getting so damn old nobody can remember anything for certain LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harvey Rench Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I remember it being a Novell Netware term. At 11:23 AM 12/22/2005, Don Brown wrote: I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Harvey Rench Senior Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net Confidentiality Notice This message and the accompanying documents may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, disseminating, distributing, or copying this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original transmission. Thank you. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus By Avolve.net] Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message
Hi,
I just missed "the goold ol' days" with the cards.
We still had them but us new guys were allowed to use a screen editor. Even the
line terminals were for the other guys. Funny thing was... the computer we were
to use was about two by two by two (yards) and could handle about twelfe to
fifteen users editing plain tekst files. It was so busy handling the the editing
that the programs we were creating were then submitted to the "real" computer,
which was either a Dec 1060 or 2060. Later the 1060 was upgraded to 2060 as
well. The job which then ran as a job on the big Dec, and they were big in a
physical way, ran as a batchjob from a card reader, the input would show "x
cards read". :-)
Nice thing about that setup. the jobs we were
submitting ran at the operator level so.. guess what else we could do.
:-)
I never found out how to create an account but I
was able to copy my files ot another existing account and then break in on that
account, which was childs play. Breaking in on an account was simply entering
the login name and then hitting Ctrl-Y (I thing it was Ctrl-Y) rappidly to send
a break to the login program. In would then somtimes forget to ask for the
password. If it didn't work the first time just try it again, at least one in
ten times would be successfull. :-)
Groetjes,
Bonno Bloksma
- Original Message -
From:
Dave Beckstrom
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:17
AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
I started off on an
IBM 370/168 in 1980. The characters on the console were rendered in
green print and looked like they had been hand drawn on the screen. The
computer had a CPU meter on it. The needle would go to 100% utilization
and stay there most of the night. I remember just a few days after
starting for the Company someone called me up and asked me to turn on their
focus. I thought to myself, what an idiot. Its impossible for me
to turn on their focus
that must be a knob on their screen It was
only later I found out Focus was some kind of software application that they
wanted me to run. LOL!
We used to have to
remove the disk platters from the disk drives and swap them with other
platters. I think these were 3350 drives I dont recall
for sure
that was 26 years ago. We had fourteen 3420 tape drives that I
had to kept fed and they were hungry buggers! Id walk around with about
10 reels of tape on my arm and Id keep those drives loaded with tapes and
have to take the old reels off and hang them back on the racks. I
believer the racks held something in the neighborhood of 18,000 reels of
tape.
The first PC we had
was one my dad had bought. It booted off of a tape drive. There
was no such thing as a hard drive at that time He was gone to work
one day and I typed into the computer, what is your name? The PC
responded with some cryptic error message that made no sense to me. I
asked a few more questions and finally concluded that the PC was just plain
stupid and that it didnt know a thing! It was about 2 years later that
I went to school for programming.
From:
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On Behalf Of Robert E.
SpivackSent: Thursday,
December 22, 2005 10:37 PMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
Ah, you mean using a
magic marker to write a visual stripe on the edge of the cards,
right?
Bah, we just NEVER
dropped our card decks. Afterall, using columns 72 to 80 for sequence
numbers was always for wimps, right?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dave
DohertySent: Thursday,
December 22, 2005 7:20 AMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
Thanks for the trip down
memory lane, Andy.
For me it wasa
new360(?) in college in 1968. One of the seniors showed me how to run a
thin diagonal stripe down the side of the card deck to aid in sorting, should
it ever be necessary...
ABEND was absolutely in
the vocabulary at that time. Both as "evening" from my German classes and
ABnormalENDing, courtesy of IBM.
NowI have REALLY
dated myself.
-d
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From: Andy Schmidt
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent:
Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Ha - long before
Gates started college, therewas a company called International
Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get
your punch cards in the proper order f
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message As it was raining also? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:46 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend What, you had a teletype instead of keypunch? Bah, kids today. When I was a boy, we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to submit our punchcards for overnight processing. And we liked it. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:44 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a Dos. Instead of a GUI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were abending already. I'm frequently amused about new concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message No, just snowing. But it was a driving snow. You'll have to drive in to the Sierras to find out what snow looks like, John. Or check out that nuisance white stuff outside you see on the national news. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists)Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:58 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend As it was raining also? John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:46 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend What, you had a teletype instead of keypunch? Bah, kids today. When I was a boy, we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to submit our punchcards for overnight processing. And we liked it. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:44 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a "D"os. Instead of a "G"UI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were "abending" already. I'm frequently amused about "new" concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, "been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago". Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products.-Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
John, Raining - ha. Where we come from we walked to school uphill (both ways) in a blizzard every day :) Darrell John T (Lists) writes: As it was raining also? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:46 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend What, you had a teletype instead of keypunch? Bah, kids today. When I was a boy, we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to submit our punchcards for overnight processing. And we liked it. Andrew 8) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:44 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, there was a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machines to get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionary brand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a Dos. Instead of a GUI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were abending already. I'm frequently amused about new concepts that are being introduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, been there - done that, but more than 20 years ago. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
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Actually it was Novell that intro'd this word to the PC server world, Microsoft just intro'd it to the masses:-) Mike - Original Message - From: Nick Hayer To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 16:51 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word?AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products.-Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I was trying to make a joke but it is hard to do vie email at times. :) Especially to Windows diehards :))) I learned the abend term from Novell which is where I presumed it was coined. I know nothing about mainframe admin so it may have been born there. -Nick Sanford Whiteman wrote: AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. Unlikely -- in the post-mainframe world as I experienced it, ABENDs were to Novell NetWare as BSODs were to Microsoft products. Always had to shift terminology when dealing with Windows people (back before I was one of 'em). --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message Andrew, Yeah.you were probably one of those guys who gave me a tray of cards (I was an operator for a while) and right smack in the middle of the stack would be a rubber band. That damn card reader would munch about 5 cards when it jammed up. If I was in a good mood Id go punch new cards to replace them. If I was in a bad mood Id just toss them away!!! A few lines of code in a program isnt really all that important to the job. LOL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend What, you had a teletype instead of keypunch? Bah, kids today. When I was a boy, we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to submit our punchcards for overnight processing. And we liked it. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:44 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a Dos. Instead of a GUI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were abending already. I'm frequently amused about new concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Andy. For me it wasa new360(?) in college in 1968. One of the seniors showed me how to run a thin diagonal stripe down the side of the card deck to aid in sorting, should it ever be necessary... ABEND was absolutely in the vocabulary at that time. Both as "evening" from my German classes and ABnormalENDing, courtesy of IBM. NowI have REALLY dated myself. -d - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a "D"os. Instead of a "G"UI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were "abending" already. I'm frequently amused about "new" concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, "been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago". Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abendJohn T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word?AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products.-Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I remember it being a Novell Netware term. At 11:23 AM 12/22/2005, Don Brown wrote: I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Harvey Rench Senior Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net Confidentiality Notice This message and the accompanying documents may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, disseminating, distributing, or copying this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original transmission. Thank you. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
You guys see the problem here, right? We're all getting so damn old nobody can remember anything for certain LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harvey Rench Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I remember it being a Novell Netware term. At 11:23 AM 12/22/2005, Don Brown wrote: I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Harvey Rench Senior Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net Confidentiality Notice This message and the accompanying documents may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, disseminating, distributing, or copying this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original transmission. Thank you. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Remember what??? You are in a Twisty maze of passageways, all alike... Joel Oelfke Tempest Technologies, LLC 406-495-8731 www.tempesttech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend You guys see the problem here, right? We're all getting so damn old nobody can remember anything for certain LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harvey Rench Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I remember it being a Novell Netware term. At 11:23 AM 12/22/2005, Don Brown wrote: I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Harvey Rench Senior Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net Confidentiality Notice This message and the accompanying documents may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, disseminating, distributing, or copying this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original transmission. Thank you. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus provided by Tempest Technologies, LLC] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus provided by Tempest Technologies, LLC] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Hi, everybody. Nice to meet ya! :-) -d - Original Message - From: Joel Oelfke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Remember what??? You are in a Twisty maze of passageways, all alike... Joel Oelfke Tempest Technologies, LLC 406-495-8731 www.tempesttech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend You guys see the problem here, right? We're all getting so damn old nobody can remember anything for certain LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harvey Rench Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I remember it being a Novell Netware term. At 11:23 AM 12/22/2005, Don Brown wrote: I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Harvey Rench Senior Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net Confidentiality Notice This message and the accompanying documents may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, disseminating, distributing, or copying this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original transmission. Thank you. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus provided by Tempest Technologies, LLC] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus provided by Tempest Technologies, LLC] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
What was the question? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Oelfke Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:29 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Remember what??? You are in a Twisty maze of passageways, all alike... Joel Oelfke Tempest Technologies, LLC 406-495-8731 www.tempesttech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend You guys see the problem here, right? We're all getting so damn old nobody can remember anything for certain LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harvey Rench Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I remember it being a Novell Netware term. At 11:23 AM 12/22/2005, Don Brown wrote: I think so, too and I don't think it had anything to do with Microsoft, either. It was a common term around a mainframe shop. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 4:09:03 PM, Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC DC DC I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing DC it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... DC DC Darin. DC DC DC DC DC DC - Original Message - DC From: Nick Hayer DC DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM DC DC Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend DC DC John T (Lists) wrote: DC DC DC Is abend some kindof French word? DC AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. DC -Nicko DC DC DC DC DC ;) DC DC DC DC DC JohnT DC DC eServices ForYou DC DC DC DC DC -OriginalMessage- DC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic DC Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM DC To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DC Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend DC DC DC DC I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is DC there anything I should bedoing to capture information about DC this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I DC am not super happy with it abending. DC DC DC DC Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? DC DC DC DC DC GoranJovanovic DC DC OmegaNetwork Solutions DC Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Harvey Rench Senior Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net Confidentiality Notice This message and the accompanying documents may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, disseminating, distributing, or copying this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original transmission. Thank you. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus provided by Tempest Technologies, LLC] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus provided by Tempest Technologies, LLC] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message Ah, you mean using a magic marker to write a visual stripe on the edge of the cards, right? Bah, we just NEVER dropped our card decks. Afterall, using columns 72 to 80 for sequence numbers was always for wimps, right? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:20 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Andy. For me it wasa new360(?) in college in 1968. One of the seniors showed me how to run a thin diagonal stripe down the side of the card deck to aid in sorting, should it ever be necessary... ABEND was absolutely in the vocabulary at that time. Both as evening from my German classes and ABnormalENDing, courtesy of IBM. NowI have REALLY dated myself. -d - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a Dos. Instead of a GUI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were abending already. I'm frequently amused about new concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message
PRINT 19HDONT DROP THE CARDS
Sequence numbers? Nobody told us about
that...
- Original Message -
From:
Robert E. Spivack
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:37
PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
Ah, you mean using a
magic marker to write a visual stripe on the edge of the cards,
right?
Bah, we just NEVER
dropped our card decks. Afterall, using columns 72 to 80 for sequence
numbers was always for wimps, right?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave DohertySent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:20
AMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
Thanks for the trip down
memory lane, Andy.
For me it wasa
new360(?) in college in 1968. One of the seniors showed me how to run a
thin diagonal stripe down the side of the card deck to aid in sorting, should
it ever be necessary...
ABEND was absolutely in
the vocabulary at that time. Both as "evening" from my German classes and
ABnormalENDing, courtesy of IBM.
NowI have REALLY
dated myself.
-d
- Original Message -
From: Andy Schmidt
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent:
Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Ha - long before
Gates started college, therewas a company called International
Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get
your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new
/370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the
operating system was finally a "D"os. Instead of a "G"UI you had a
teletype.
And Windows were
something you put in walls to look
through.
Yet, programs were
"abending" already.
I'm frequently
amused about "new" concepts thatare beingintroduced into
desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, "been there
- done that, butmore than 20 years
ago".
Best
RegardsAndy
SchmidtPhone: +1 201
934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201
934-9206
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005
04:51 PMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
John T (Lists) wrote:
Is abend some
kind of French word?
AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the
introduction of Microsoft
products.-Nicko
;)
John
T
eServices For
You
-Original
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Goran
JovanovicSent:
Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Decludeproc abend
I have had
decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should
be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart
enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it
abending.
Any hints on what
(if anything) I can/should be doing?
Goran
Jovanovic
Omega
Network
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message I started off on an IBM 370/168 in 1980. The characters on the console were rendered in green print and looked like they had been hand drawn on the screen. The computer had a CPU meter on it. The needle would go to 100% utilization and stay there most of the night. I remember just a few days after starting for the Company someone called me up and asked me to turn on their focus. I thought to myself, what an idiot. Its impossible for me to turn on their focusthat must be a knob on their screen It was only later I found out Focus was some kind of software application that they wanted me to run. LOL! We used to have to remove the disk platters from the disk drives and swap them with other platters. I think these were 3350 drives I dont recall for surethat was 26 years ago. We had fourteen 3420 tape drives that I had to kept fed and they were hungry buggers! Id walk around with about 10 reels of tape on my arm and Id keep those drives loaded with tapes and have to take the old reels off and hang them back on the racks. I believer the racks held something in the neighborhood of 18,000 reels of tape. The first PC we had was one my dad had bought. It booted off of a tape drive. There was no such thing as a hard drive at that time He was gone to work one day and I typed into the computer, what is your name? The PC responded with some cryptic error message that made no sense to me. I asked a few more questions and finally concluded that the PC was just plain stupid and that it didnt know a thing! It was about 2 years later that I went to school for programming. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. Spivack Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ah, you mean using a magic marker to write a visual stripe on the edge of the cards, right? Bah, we just NEVER dropped our card decks. Afterall, using columns 72 to 80 for sequence numbers was always for wimps, right? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:20 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Andy. For me it wasa new360(?) in college in 1968. One of the seniors showed me how to run a thin diagonal stripe down the side of the card deck to aid in sorting, should it ever be necessary... ABEND was absolutely in the vocabulary at that time. Both as evening from my German classes and ABnormalENDing, courtesy of IBM. NowI have REALLY dated myself. -d - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a Dos. Instead of a GUI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were abending already. I'm frequently amused about new concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
"abend" in German means "evening". good Abend! :-) Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists)Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. Its the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I dont know where the term originated from. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
It is an IBM mainframe term from long ago. ABnormal END Of course this is all very interesting but it does not answer my original questions L Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. Its the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I dont know where the term originated from. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Derived from 'ABnormal ENDing' George -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. It's the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I don't know where the term originated from. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I always thought it was Absent By Enforced Net Deprivation - usually when someone hadn't posted in a while 'cause their modem died or their parents grounded them. It's been a long time since I heard that though. - greg Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. It's the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I don't know where the term originated from. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
abend = crash. I remember when RAM was called core, too. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 3:29:49 PM, Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MG MG MG abend in German means evening. MG MG MG MG good Abend! :-) MG MG Markus MG MG MG MG MG MG MG MG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T(Lists) MG Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM MG To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com MG Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]Decludeproc abend MG MG MG MG Is abend some kindof French word? MG MG MG MG ;) MG MG MG MG MG JohnT MG MG eServices ForYou MG MG MG MG MG -OriginalMessage- MG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GoranJovanovic MG Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM MG To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com MG Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend MG MG MG MG I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is MG there anything I should bedoing to capture information about MG this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I MG am not super happy with it abending. MG MG MG MG Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? MG MG MG MG MG GoranJovanovic MG MG OmegaNetwork Solutions MG Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word? AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products. -Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
And here I thought that everyone knew that termoh well I am dating myself Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:49 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I always thought it was Absent By Enforced Net Deprivation - usually when someone hadn't posted in a while 'cause their modem died or their parents grounded them. It's been a long time since I heard that though. - greg Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. It's the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I don't know where the term originated from. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I used to read CORE dumps and debug the operating system. I even wrote code for the operating system (I was a systems programmer) I don't think you're a real programmer if you don't read binary and assembly language!!! LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend = crash. I remember when RAM was called core, too. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 3:29:49 PM, Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MG MG MG abend in German means evening. MG MG MG MG good Abend! :-) MG MG Markus MG MG MG MG MG MG MG MG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) MG Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM MG To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com MG Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]Decludeproc abend MG MG MG MG Is abend some kindof French word? MG MG MG MG ;) MG MG MG MG MG JohnT MG MG eServices ForYou MG MG MG MG MG -OriginalMessage- MG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic MG Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM MG To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com MG Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend MG MG MG MG I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is MG there anything I should bedoing to capture information about MG this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I MG am not super happy with it abending. MG MG MG MG Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? MG MG MG MG MG GoranJovanovic MG MG OmegaNetwork Solutions MG Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I thought that went further back than that. I remember hearing it a lot from mainframe types prior to Windows 1.1early 80's... Darin. - Original Message - From: Nick Hayer To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend John T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word?AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products.-Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I guess not everyone has had the pleasure of waiting in line for hours for a printout (batch processing mainframes) to find just a few terse lines with ABEND error xx and no other clue as to why the job failed. That's why ABEND sticks in one's mind for many many years if you've had to deal with program crashes from mainframe days -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:57 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend And here I thought that everyone knew that termoh well I am dating myself Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:49 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I always thought it was Absent By Enforced Net Deprivation - usually when someone hadn't posted in a while 'cause their modem died or their parents grounded them. It's been a long time since I heard that though. - greg Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. It's the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I don't know where the term originated from. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Dave, do you have the same compulsion I do, that when you see a binary string in a movie or tv, you *have* to convert it to hex, octal or decimal to figure out if there's a joke there for you? Andrew 8) Andrew, No, I guess you must have it worse then I do! *chuckleBut I do laugh at a lot of the ridiculous stuff I see in the movies. There was one movie, I don't recall which, that had a scene with the StorageTek robotic tape drives in it. That was cool because I installed about six of them for a company years ago. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
I stick to playing records backwards so I can get direction from the devil :) Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Dave, do you have the same compulsion I do, that when you see a binary string in a movie or tv, you *have* to convert it to hex, octal or decimal to figure out if there's a joke there for you? Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:06 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I used to read CORE dumps and debug the operating system. I even wrote code for the operating system (I was a systems programmer) I don't think you're a real programmer if you don't read binary and assembly language!!! LOL!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend = crash. I remember when RAM was called core, too. Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 3:29:49 PM, Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MG MG MG "abend" in German means "evening". MG MG MG MG good Abend! :-) MG MG Markus MG MG MG MG MG MG MG MG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) MG Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM MG To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com MG Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend MG MG MG MG Is abend some kindof French word? MG MG MG MG ;) MG MG MG MG MG JohnT MG MG eServices ForYou MG MG MG MG MG -OriginalMessage- MG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic MG Sent: Wednesday, December 21,2005 1:13PM MG To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com MG Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeprocabend MG MG MG MG I have haddecludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is MG there anything I should bedoing to capture information about MG this? I have automatic restart enabled soit starts again but I MG am not super happy with it abending. MG MG MG MG Any hints on what (ifanything) I can/should be doing? MG MG MG MG MG GoranJovanovic MG MG OmegaNetwork Solutions MG Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Gees, I did not realize the path this would take. Yikes. BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESITONS! Check the C:\ root for any declude files that may be there. Are there any files in the error or repair directories? (spool\proc\error or spool\proc\repair) If so, compile all the log lines for those message from the various Declude logs. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:45 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend It is an IBM mainframe term from long ago. ABnormal END Of course this is all very interesting but it does not answer my original questions L Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. Its the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I dont know where the term originated from. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
While I would like to think that makes me feel younger, I am actually still a green horn of sorts in networking having only been in the field now for just 5 years. But I do remember playing with a Tandy 1000 and MS DOS 3.11 and later MS DOS 5.0 and DOSSHELL, although I was never able to figure out how to use MS DOSSHELL. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:57 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend And here I thought that everyone knew that termoh well I am dating myself Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:49 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I always thought it was Absent By Enforced Net Deprivation - usually when someone hadn't posted in a while 'cause their modem died or their parents grounded them. It's been a long time since I heard that though. - greg Abend is a common term used in the world of mainframes. It's the same as aborted or crashed. I first heard it in 1981 and used it many, many times over the years. I don't know where the term originated from. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend abend in German means evening. good Abend! :-) Markus _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Is abend some kind of French word? ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a "D"os. Instead of a "G"UI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were "abending" already. I'm frequently amused about "new" concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, "been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago". Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abendJohn T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word?AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products.-Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend
Title: Message What, you had a teletype instead of keypunch? Bah, kids today. When I was a boy, we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to submit our punchcards for overnight processing. And we liked it. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:44 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend Ha - long before Gates started college, therewas a company called International Business Machines. And you had to program sorter/merger machinesto get your punch cards in the proper order for the revolutionarybrand-new /370s - because disk sorting was not yet available, even though at least the operating system was finally a "D"os. Instead of a "G"UI you had a teletype. And Windows were something you put in walls to look through. Yet, programs were "abending" already. I'm frequently amused about "new" concepts thatare beingintroduced into desktop/server architecture from time to time - often thinking, "been there - done that, butmore than 20 years ago". Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 04:51 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abendJohn T (Lists) wrote: Is abend some kind of French word?AbnormalEnding. - circa 1985 - coined with the introduction of Microsoft products.-Nicko ;) John T eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc abend I have had decludeproc 3.0.5.22 abend on me twice today. Is there anything I should be doing to capture information about this? I have automatic restart enabled so it starts again but I am not super happy with it abending. Any hints on what (if anything) I can/should be doing? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
