RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
Database mirroring is not the same as clustering. You dont need the same kind of resources and licenses. Robert E. Spivack VP Sales Marketing Voicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group (408) 834-8560 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:26 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution I did get a price from Dell for 2 licenses to run a SQL cluster for an internet application. Got it in writing too. Price for the Microsoft software only: $54,000 Robert E. Spivack wrote: If using SQL Server 2005, the new database mirroring (aka real-time logshipping) is an excellent solution if you would rather put your $$$into SQL Server licenses (enterprise edition required) and hardwareinstead of a 3rd party app.An advantage of using Microsoft Database Mirroring is that you canremain on a 100% Microsoft supported solution. Assuming aclustered/mission-critical installation would want to insure they haveaccess to PSS (Microsoft product support) for any critical situations,this could be a decisive factor over choosing a 3rd party genericclustering or C/SFS (clustered/storage file system) solution.I'd be curious to hear if Sandy or anyone has compared db mirroring todouble-take and other solutions that made sense before this feature wasavailable but may be less desirable now.Robert E. SpivackVP Sales MarketingVoicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group(408) 834-8560[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfSanford WhitemanSent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:27 PMTo: Sanford WhitemanSubject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution Seriously, what's low? ...I ask because clustering's ROI is kind of a hard target.Unfortunately, I almost always find it easier to justify clusteringsolutions for my clients *after* they haven't heeded an initialclustering suggestion and have had outages and/or data loss (or if Iget them as I clients after such an incident).We use Double-Take as a pseudo-standard, as it has broad industrysupport and works equally well over the local and wide area. It'sgoing to run you upwards of $3500 for one two-server cluster. Is thatlow?I've demoed and am intrigued by XGForce's eClusterhttp://www.xgforce.com/news_eCluster.html, which has much moreaccessible pricing. I plan to purchase it in place of DT for my nextrollout and see if I can trust it. But for now, I can't vouch for it,though if you get into it, please let me know. :)--SandySanford Whiteman, Chief TechnologistBroadleaf Systems, a division ofCypress Integrated Systems, Inc.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMailAliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
I did get a price from Dell for 2 licenses to run a SQL cluster for an internet application. Got it in writing too. Price for the Microsoft software only: $54,000 Robert E. Spivack wrote: If using SQL Server 2005, the new database mirroring (aka "real-time log shipping") is an excellent solution if you would rather put your $$$ into SQL Server licenses (enterprise edition required) and hardware instead of a 3rd party app. An advantage of using Microsoft Database Mirroring is that you can remain on a 100% Microsoft supported solution. Assuming a clustered/mission-critical installation would want to insure they have access to PSS (Microsoft product support) for any critical situations, this could be a decisive factor over choosing a 3rd party generic clustering or C/SFS (clustered/storage file system) solution. I'd be curious to hear if Sandy or anyone has compared db mirroring to double-take and other solutions that made sense before this feature was available but may be less desirable now. Robert E. Spivack VP Sales Marketing Voicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group (408) 834-8560 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:27 PM To: Sanford Whiteman Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution Seriously, what's "low"? ...I ask because clustering's ROI is kind of a hard target. Unfortunately, I almost always find it easier to justify clustering solutions for my clients *after* they haven't heeded an initial clustering suggestion and have had outages and/or data loss (or if I get them as I clients after such an incident). We use Double-Take as a pseudo-standard, as it has broad industry support and works equally well over the local and wide area. It's going to run you upwards of $3500 for one two-server cluster. Is that "low"? I'vedemoedandamintriguedbyXGForce's eCluster http://www.xgforce.com/news_eCluster.html, which has much more accessible pricing. I plan to purchase it in place of DT for my next rollout and see if I can trust it. But for now, I can't vouch for it, though if you get into it, please let me know. :) --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/rel ease/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/dow nload/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/downloa d/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
I am looking for a low cost clustering sw/solution for our database server (Hyperfile C/S) Seriously, what's low? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
