RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x

2006-02-09 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
Doesn't have that option as far I as have seen.

Regarding your other question. I believe that support from declude will have
the answer

Luis Arango
 

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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x
 
 Does anyone know if SmarterMail has Program aliases. I have 
 checked the docs and am going back and forth with 
 SmarterTools sales, but not to be found.
 
 It is the only missing feature I would need to move away from Imail.
 
 
 
 So now here is my declude question.
 
 Could I use smartermail/declude, with an external test, to 
 identify a message form a specific account then process and 
 move the message/delete a message to where I would like. What 
 would happen when declude gets control back and the message 
 no longer exists?
 
 
 We currently use program aliases to process EDI orders from customers.
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 Network Administrator
 Standard Abrasives, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (805) 520-5800 x7332
 
 Changing the way industry works.
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x

2006-02-09 Thread Matt




Kevin,

I don't believe they introduced this, though they closed many gaps that
they had in IMail equivalent functionality in this release, and changed
a few other things that concerned me. For instance, they introduced
sub-mailbox functionality, and they also gave us the ability to turn
off autoresponders and catch-all's.

My greatest concerns about SmarterMail's Web interface are these three
things:
1) Virtually no control of content outside of skinning, so
you can't tweak things that they don't expressly allow you to tweak
(such as removing a link to a piece of functionality).
  
2) Webmail uses a separate page for viewing a message list and viewing
a message, so you have to click back and forth, and this is completely
impractical for doing any form of spam review. It doesn't matter that
much for occasional end-use, but it is certainly not lingua franca for
Webmail clients.
  
3) Integration of SmarterMail spam blocking functionality in the
interface can be confusing to end users if you handle spam outside of
that system. I'm not sure if Declude has a tie in to that
functionality, but I'm guessing not at this moment.

...and also one big non-interface thing that also concerns me a great
deal:
4) Proprietary mailbox format, which makes them pretty much
uneditable (or
at least I can't figure out how to do it without a hex editor). I
really wish they would abandon this and go to simple text files.

I host E-mail on SmarterMail, and I am generally happy with that, but I
won't move my Declude setup there until they change these things
because my hands are tied by the needs of my system. Program aliases
are real nice to have, but I'm not currently tied down by that need.

There are plenty of good points, so don't let me make it sound bad.
They have things like archiving of E-mail for SOX compliance, shared
calendaring, Outlook integration with calendaring, tasks, content
filtering, great performance and stability, and a nicer interface than
IMail 8.x- (but I prefer IMail's wide flexibility in the new Webmail a
great, great deal more, but that isn't a universal need). Naturally,
people should do due-diligence before upgrading or migrating,
especially on a brand new major release.

Matt






Kevin Bilbee wrote:

  Does anyone know if SmarterMail has Program aliases. I have checked the docs
and am going back and forth with SmarterTools sales, but not to be found.

It is the only missing feature I would need to move away from Imail.



So now here is my declude question.

Could I use smartermail/declude, with an external test, to identify a
message form a specific account then process and move the message/delete a
message to where I would like. What would happen when declude gets control
back and the message no longer exists?


We currently use program aliases to process EDI orders from customers.


Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

Changing the way industry works.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x

2006-02-09 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango



Regarding the preview of messages for spamming review. You 
can use the preview option of version 3.0. You can preview every message without 
opening it. First time the page is heavy to load but it saves a lot of time. 
There are two preview options, small and large preview.

Luis Arango


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Jueves, 09 de Febrero de 2006 04:42 
  p.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x
  Kevin,I don't believe they introduced this, though they 
  closed many gaps that they had in IMail equivalent functionality in this 
  release, and changed a few other things that concerned me. For instance, 
  they introduced sub-mailbox functionality, and they also gave us the ability 
  to turn off autoresponders and catch-all's.My greatest concerns about 
  SmarterMail's Web interface are these three things:
  1) Virtually no control of content outside of skinning, so you 
can't tweak things that they don't expressly allow you to tweak (such as 
removing a link to a piece of functionality).2) Webmail uses a 
separate page for viewing a message list and viewing a message, so you have 
to click back and forth, and this is completely impractical for doing any 
form of spam review. It doesn't matter that much for occasional 
end-use, but it is certainly not lingua franca for Webmail 
clients.3) Integration of SmarterMail spam blocking functionality in 
the interface can be confusing to end users if you handle spam outside of 
that system. I'm not sure if Declude has a tie in to that 
functionality, but I'm guessing not at this momentand 
  also one big non-interface thing that also concerns me a great deal:
  4) Proprietary mailbox format, which makes them pretty much 
uneditable (or at least I can't figure out how to do it without a hex 
editor). I really wish they would abandon this and go to simple text 
files.I host E-mail on SmarterMail, and I am generally happy 
  with that, but I won't move my Declude setup there until they change these 
  things because my hands are tied by the needs of my system. Program 
  aliases are real nice to have, but I'm not currently tied down by that 
  need.There are plenty of good points, so don't let me make it sound 
  bad. They have things like archiving of E-mail for SOX compliance, 
  shared calendaring, Outlook integration with calendaring, tasks, content 
  filtering, great performance and stability, and a nicer interface than IMail 
  8.x- (but I prefer IMail's wide flexibility in the new Webmail a great, great 
  deal more, but that isn't a universal need). Naturally, people should do 
  due-diligence before upgrading or migrating, especially on a brand new major 
  release.MattKevin Bilbee wrote: 
  Does anyone know if SmarterMail has Program aliases. I have checked the docs
and am going back and forth with SmarterTools sales, but not to be found.

It is the only missing feature I would need to move away from Imail.



So now here is my declude question.

Could I use smartermail/declude, with an external test, to identify a
message form a specific account then process and move the message/delete a
message to where I would like. What would happen when declude gets control
back and the message no longer exists?


We currently use program aliases to process EDI orders from customers.


Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

Changing the way industry works.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Kevin,

Just a thought here. With the IMail single file storage environment, having an 
alias trigger a program was a convenient solution. However, the SmarterMail 
storage is one file per message. It should be fairly simple to set up a 
directory monitor that watches/checks for new files and processes whatever it 
finds.

Mike

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From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JunkMail Declude declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x


 Does anyone know if SmarterMail has Program aliases. I have checked the docs
 and am going back and forth with SmarterTools sales, but not to be found.
 
 It is the only missing feature I would need to move away from Imail.
 
 
 
 So now here is my declude question.
 
 Could I use smartermail/declude, with an external test, to identify a
 message form a specific account then process and move the message/delete a
 message to where I would like. What would happen when declude gets control
 back and the message no longer exists?
 
 
 We currently use program aliases to process EDI orders from customers.
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 Network Administrator
 Standard Abrasives, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (805) 520-5800 x7332
 
 Changing the way industry works.
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.x

2006-02-09 Thread Matt Robertson
I'm looking at going back to Declude with the release of SM 3.0.

First thing I saw on the Declude home page is something called a BOUNDRY LAYER

Saw the same spelling error repeated on another graphic.

I can't be the only guy to have noticed this, I would think.  The
signature graphic explaining the product's place in the universe, and
the first word on it is misspelled.

OUCH.  How embarrassing.

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