Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
I spoke to sales today. Sounds like December. They may come out with an
earlier release with the global filters, but no promises on that.
They're holding out for 3.0. We're going to have to leave most of our
imail-customer servers on imail for now, I guess. The sales and techs
that I spoke to were astonished that other mail servers had alias to
executable support. This scares me a little - I can't think of any other
mail server that DOESN'T offer this, either via feature (most win32
servers) or just piping it ('nix). Concerns me a little that they may be
out of touch on even the most basic things.. :\
Jonathan
Kevin Bilbee wrote:
Best thing to do is call SmarterMail Sales. They are knowledgable on the
product and the features slated for the 3.0 release but definitly call htem
and let them know you would like to see Program Aliases.
Kevin Bilbee
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Rats. I was hoping I was totally off-base, and all these features were
actually hidden in the program or configs somewhere. Not really sure how
thrilled I am about moving our customers' servers over without some of
these items.
Jonathan
Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango wrote:
I totally agree.
Here is a link with some of the features missing
http://forums.smartertools.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=8767
However its webmail is very nice. I hope we have that in IMAIL.
Luis Arango
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few
months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing
they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems
like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple
examples that I confirmed with their tech support:
- There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go
to another email address)
- There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically
with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service
restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their
DLLs I guess.
- No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3)
- No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to
unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs*
to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be
rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick.
I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on
the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're
shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006.
Any thoughts?
Jonathan
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
At 01:08 PM 5/19/2005, you wrote: So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple examples that I confirmed with their tech support: - There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go to another email address) - There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their DLLs I guess. - No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3) - No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs* to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick. I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006. Any thoughts? Jonathan I think SmarterMail has a very nice interface for the end user, but it is lacking some features on the admin side. The vendor does seem to listen to feature requests and bug reports. When I last spoke to the SmaterTool folks, they said version 3 of SmarterMail would be released sometime in August, 2005. I hope we don't have to wait until December. Mike --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
I totally agree. Here is a link with some of the features missing http://forums.smartertools.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=8767 However its webmail is very nice. I hope we have that in IMAIL. Luis Arango -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Jueves, 19 de Mayo de 2005 01:09 p.m. To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?) So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple examples that I confirmed with their tech support: - There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go to another email address) - There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their DLLs I guess. - No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3) - No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs* to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick. I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006. Any thoughts? Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ [Email scanned for viruses by Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] [Email escaneado contra virus por Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] __ [Email scanned for viruses by Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] [Email escaneado contra virus por Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?)
Rats. I was hoping I was totally off-base, and all these features were actually hidden in the program or configs somewhere. Not really sure how thrilled I am about moving our customers' servers over without some of these items. Jonathan Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango wrote: I totally agree. Here is a link with some of the features missing http://forums.smartertools.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=8767 However its webmail is very nice. I hope we have that in IMAIL. Luis Arango -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Jueves, 19 de Mayo de 2005 01:09 p.m. To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail Features (or lack thereof?) So, we've been looking quite a bit at SmarterMail for the past few months ... everyone in here seems to rant and rave about it, wishing they had switched sooner. However, when I really dig into it, it seems like it's missing a lot of common functionality. Here's a couple examples that I confirmed with their tech support: - There's no way to have an alias launch an EXE (or do anything but go to another email address) - There's no global filters, and no way to create filters automatically with web services. Editing the XML directly would require a service restart. So it'd need to be entirely manual, or find a way to hook their DLLs I guess. - No way to change the connection banner for IMAP (or smtp or pop3) - No way to create an address or alias that would allow a user to unsubscribe the mailing list by just sending a message there, it *needs* to have unsubscribe in the subject. I assume this could somehow be rigged with some title-rewriting content filter .. ick. I've seen a few other things that concern me .. some of this stuff is on the list, or has been put on the list for the next release, but they're shooting for December. So, I guess we should realistically assume 2006. Any thoughts? Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ [Email scanned for viruses by Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] [Email escaneado contra virus por Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] __ [Email scanned for viruses by Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] [Email escaneado contra virus por Panda Consulting -www.pandacons.com-] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
