Re: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail
Hi, Just got through doing the upgrade, a few things you should do/know. 1) cleanup imail email boxes before you run the migration utilityit takes a lot longer if you don't. 2) smartermail requires using the full email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for logging in (pop3). By default, it's that way with the web interface also. 3) get smartermail setup on IIS ASAP as opposed to the built in smartermail web interface... you'll have performance issues otherwise 4) the default password rules in smartermail are for at least 5 character password and different username/pw (you can't use username for the password for the account username). If you users with shorter passwords, they'll have issues so you may want to change that from the start. 5) declude is more tightly integrated with smartermail than Imail...you're gonna like that :) Give declude a call and they'll help you get that setup. 6) make sure you read the install/migration instructions carefully. 7) If you have dialup customers, they're not going to like you in the beginningsmartermail web interface is more graphical/slower 8) there is a management learning curse...smartmail is different from Imail. You'll like smartermail better after you learn to navigate. The key here is to login as the admin first and learn to get around from there. Thanks, Andrew Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thumpernet.com 315-282-0020 Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 3:25:04 AM, you wrote: The time has come to dump Imail 8.15 which has been pretty solid but due to CBL.ABUSE picking on me for using Imail 8.15 I need to get rid of imail and I cant upgrade to Imail 2006 so Smartermail is looking like the best option for now. (basically cbl said you have to upgrade your imailwe dont care if it costs you money) I have two dedicated mail servers on windows I need to upgrade. Has anyone been through the migration process of Imail to smartermail and is there much involved? Also, I run declude, do I have to make many changes to that also and does anyone know if there is a cost for that? Any advice on this would be appreciated. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W:www.123marbella.com E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail
Thanks Andrew, you are a star! Great advice and much appreciated. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.com E : [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2007 13:46 To: Craig Edmonds Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail Hi, Just got through doing the upgrade, a few things you should do/know. 1) cleanup imail email boxes before you run the migration utilityit takes a lot longer if you don't. 2) smartermail requires using the full email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for logging in (pop3). By default, it's that way with the web interface also. 3) get smartermail setup on IIS ASAP as opposed to the built in smartermail web interface... you'll have performance issues otherwise 4) the default password rules in smartermail are for at least 5 character password and different username/pw (you can't use username for the password for the account username). If you users with shorter passwords, they'll have issues so you may want to change that from the start. 5) declude is more tightly integrated with smartermail than Imail...you're gonna like that :) Give declude a call and they'll help you get that setup. 6) make sure you read the install/migration instructions carefully. 7) If you have dialup customers, they're not going to like you in the beginningsmartermail web interface is more graphical/slower 8) there is a management learning curse...smartmail is different from Imail. You'll like smartermail better after you learn to navigate. The key here is to login as the admin first and learn to get around from there. Thanks, Andrew Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thumpernet.com 315-282-0020 Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 3:25:04 AM, you wrote: The time has come to dump Imail 8.15 which has been pretty solid but due to CBL.ABUSE picking on me for using Imail 8.15 I need to get rid of imail and I cant upgrade to Imail 2006 so Smartermail is looking like the best option for now. (basically cbl said you have to upgrade your imailwe don't care if it costs you money) I have two dedicated mail servers on windows I need to upgrade. Has anyone been through the migration process of Imail to smartermail and is there much involved? Also, I run declude, do I have to make many changes to that also and does anyone know if there is a cost for that? Any advice on this would be appreciated. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: http://www.123marbella.com www.123marbella.com E : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail
Andy, I have found the migration tool to be lacking in refinement. For instance, it won't set the admin account for each domain. It also will import the root accounts from IMail, even if disabled, and it will pull over their default passwords of passwords and enable those accounts (these will likely be hacked and used if given enough time). Essentially you will want to either go in and change the settings for every account and every domain to what it should be, or just fix up one domain and it's users, and then source that domain's config settings as a template and use a search and replace tool to fix up all of your other domains and accounts. It will work without doing all of this, but it does create a mess to deal with. Also note that it will not import calendar's. Don't mess with SmarterMail's greylisting or spam blocking unless you have less than 100 users. It won't keep up, and it's rather basic compared to Declude. I find SmarterMail to be pretty stable overall, and the interface is fairly nice, though people will get confused by the location of the submit buttons, so be prepared for these calls by webmail users if you have them. Unfortunately you can't turn off some of the menus for webmail users, so they will see things like spam filtering dialogs even though they won't necessarily do anything. You will need to determine how to integrate Declude, I believe that it can work within this system, though sometimes that isn't wise since people would then have the tools to cause themselves trouble. Matt Craig Edmonds wrote: Thanks Andrew, you are a star! Great advice and much appreciated. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.com http://www.123marbella.com E : [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 11 December 2007 13:46 *To:* Craig Edmonds *Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail Hi, Just got through doing the upgrade, a few things you should do/know. 1) cleanup imail email boxes before you run the migration utilityit takes a lot longer if you don't. 2) smartermail requires using the full email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for logging in (pop3). By default, it's that way with the web interface also. 3) get smartermail setup on IIS ASAP as opposed to the built in smartermail web interface... you'll have performance issues otherwise 4) the default password rules in smartermail are for at least 5 character password and different username/pw (you can't use username for the password for the account username). If you users with shorter passwords, they'll have issues so you may want to change that from the start. 5) declude is more tightly integrated with smartermail than Imail...you're gonna like that :) Give declude a call and they'll help you get that setup. 6) make sure you read the install/migration instructions carefully. 7) If you have dialup customers, they're not going to like you in the beginningsmartermail web interface is more graphical/slower 8) there is a management learning curse...smartmail is different from Imail. You'll like smartermail better after you learn to navigate. The key here is to login as the admin first and learn to get around from there. Thanks, Andrew Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thumpernet.com 315-282-0020 Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 3:25:04 AM, you wrote: The time has come to dump Imail 8.15 which has been pretty solid but due to CBL.ABUSE picking on me for using Imail 8.15 I need to get rid of imail and I cant upgrade to Imail 2006 so Smartermail is looking like the best option for now. (basically cbl said you have to upgrade your imailwe don't care if it costs you money) I have two dedicated mail servers on windows I need to upgrade. Has anyone been through the migration process of Imail to smartermail and is there much involved? Also, I run declude, do I have to make many changes to that also and does anyone know if there is a cost for that? Any advice on this would be appreciated. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.com http://www.123marbella.com E : [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED
