RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I will admit, Bind is not the easiest thing to setup if you are a new admin.
The first time I tried to setup bind it took me about 3 hours, but to me the
benefits outweigh commercial packages. Including reading on-line
documentation and eliminating one error at a time, making sure it was
secure. But now that I have the minimal settings it is a 5 minute setup.

I have passed these instructions on to many other not so experienced admins.
These instructions work on any platform bind will run on. Just change the
paths to suit the OS.


Kevin Bilbee


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford
Whiteman
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:48 AM
To: Kevin Bilbee
Subject: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

 I have a suggestion since DNS is so critical to Declude. A secure
recursive
 bind implementation can be setup in less than 5 minutes. 

Kevin, thank you very much for proving the absurd ease with which this
one  (of  many)  DNS  servers  can  be set up for this purpose, and to
everybody  else who voiced their agreement. I expect the voices of the
qualified sysadmins here are unified.

--Sandy



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RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Not to be picky but run this query instead

nslookup -q=mx gmail.com. 1.2.3.4

If you do not include the dot it may append the default domain for the
windows box to the query. If there is no default domain specified then all
is good. But the extra do will always work.



Kevin Bilbee

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Whiteman
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:35 PM
To: Linda Pagillo
Subject: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

 Yeah, that would surprise me utterly, since they wouldn't be able to
 do _anything else_ with said servers that would lead them to believe
 they were suitable for Declude's use.

 I  worked  for  an  ISP  for a long time before joining Declude. DNS
 servers  are NOT useless without the recursive DNS option turned on.
 I  don't  know  where  you're  getting  your  information, but it is
 incorrect.

What  I  said  was  (it's  right  there above, please reread) there is
nothing  else they could do with said servers _that would lead them to
believe  they were suitable for Declude's use_. That is obvious. There
is  no  reason anyone should think that authoritative-only nameservers
are  their  DNS  servers. Such servers could not be the servers they
use  to  surf  the  web, for example. The only reason they would enter
such  a  server  into the Declude config is because they have not been
sufficiently  briefed  on  the  characteristics  of the server that is
suitable  for  Declude vs. one that may not be used. The test can you
run  'nslookup  -q=mx gmail.com 1.2.3.4' is enough to tell people that
the 1.2.3.4 is or isn't valid.

--Sandy




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RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman [Mobile]
Thanks, K.  ipconfig from a mailserver that can surf the net is another duh 
quickie... .

--Sandy  



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