Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-23 Thread Scott Fisher
I don't give any weight to a SPF pass since many spammers have set up their 
own SPF records and will pass.


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From: "Kim Premuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



This is what we have in our 'global.cfg' file:

  SPFFAIL spffail x x 3 0

Is this old syntax? A remnant of version 1.86? We are currently running 
JunkMail 3.0.5.20.


Also, why are the weights all zero? Shouldn't a fail add weight, and a 
pass subtract weight? Or, am I misunderstanding the 'spf' test?


Thanks!

Kim



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From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:26:13 -0500


This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAIL spf fail x 0 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x 0 0

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



I use:
SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

> Set 1:
> SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
> SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
>


Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which 
Imail's

SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-22 Thread Kim Premuda
This is what we have in our 'global.cfg' file:

   SPFFAIL spffail x x 3 0

Is this old syntax? A remnant of version 1.86? We are currently running 
JunkMail 3.0.5.20.

Also, why are the weights all zero? Shouldn't a fail add weight, and a pass 
subtract weight? Or, am I misunderstanding the 'spf' test?

Thanks!

Kim



-- Original Message --
From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:26:13 -0500

>This is the correct syntax.
>
>SPFFAILspf failx   0   0
>SPFPASSspf passx   0   0
>SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x   0   0 
>
>David B
>www.declude.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
>To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF
>
>>
>> I use:
>> SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
>> SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
>> SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0
>>
>> > Set 1:
>> > SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
>> > SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
>> >
>
>Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
>global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which Imail's
>SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
>F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own 
>domain.
>Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
>they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
>their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
>user who attempted to open the zip file.
>
>Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?
>
>Brad Morgan
>IT Manager
>Horizon Interactive Inc.
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Bilbee



Thanks, I must have forgotten that. I can not figure out what unknown 
would be used for except to support more of the SPf 
standard.
 
Kevin

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dean 
  LawrenceSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:15 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  Global.cfg lines for SPF
  Kevin,
   
  The SPFFAIL test states in the manual.
   
  "This test will be triggered if an E-mail fails SPFNote that it will 
  not be triggered for E-mail that has other problems (no SPF record, unknown 
  results from the SPF record, etc.). So any E-mail failing the SPFFAIL 
  test is E-mail that is not authorized per the administrator of the domain the 
  E-mail is being sent from."  
  So if you do neither SPFFAIL or SPFPASS are triggered, you have 
  essentially received an SPFUNKNOWN response.
   
  Dean 
  On 11/21/05, Kevin 
  Bilbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  As 
far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.Please 
direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong. 
Kevin Bilbee> -Original Message-> 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Barker> 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:26 PM> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> 
    Subject: RE: [ Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for 
SPF>>> This is the correct syntax.>> 
SPFFAIL   
spf 
failx   
0   0> 
SPFPASS   
spf 
passx   
0   0 > 
SPFUNKNOWNspf 
unknown x   
0   0>> David B> www.declude.com>> 
-Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Brad Morgan> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 
PM> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> 
    Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF >> 
>> > I use:> > SPFPASS   
spf  pass x 0 0> > 
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 
0> > SPFFAIL   
spf  fail x 50 0> >> > 
> Set 1:> > > SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0 > > > 
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0> > >>> Thanks for the 
quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my> 
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend> which 
Imail's> SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The 
messages were what> F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear 
to be from my own domain.> Since I have an SPF record, they should 
have failed the Declude check but > they did not. As a result the 
first few that arrived before F-Prot updated> their databases and 
were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one> user who 
attempted to open the zip file.> > Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?>> Brad Morgan> IT 
Manager> Horizon Interactive Inc.>>> --- 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Nick Hayer




Unknown will work as well as I recall.. 

-Nick



Kevin Bilbee wrote:

  As far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.

Please direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong.


Kevin Bilbee

  
  
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF


This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAIL		spf		fail		x	0	0
SPFPASS		spf		pass		x	0	0
SPFUNKNOWN		spf		unknown	x	0	0

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



  I use:
SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

  
  
Set 1:
SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0


  

Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend
which Imail's
SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Dean Lawrence
Kevin,
 
The SPFFAIL test states in the manual.
 
"This test will be triggered if an E-mail fails SPFNote that it will not be triggered for E-mail that has other problems (no SPF record, unknown results from the SPF record, etc.). So any E-mail failing the SPFFAIL test is E-mail that is not authorized per the administrator of the domain the E-mail is being sent from."
 
So if you do neither SPFFAIL or SPFPASS are triggered, you have essentially received an SPFUNKNOWN response.
 
Dean 
On 11/21/05, Kevin Bilbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.Please direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong.
Kevin Bilbee> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Barker> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:26 PM> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Subject: RE: [
Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF>>> This is the correct syntax.>> SPFFAIL   spf failx   0   0> SPFPASS   spf passx   0   0
> SPFUNKNOWNspf unknown x   0   0>> David B> www.declude.com>> -Original Message-> From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF
>> >> > I use:> > SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0> > SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0> > SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0> >> > > Set 1:> > > SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
> > > SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0> > >>> Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my> global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend
> which Imail's> SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what> F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.> Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
> they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated> their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one> user who attempted to open the zip file.>
> Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?>> Brad Morgan> IT Manager> Horizon Interactive Inc.>>> ---
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Bilbee
As far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.

Please direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong.


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:26 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF
>
>
> This is the correct syntax.
>
> SPFFAIL   spf failx   0   0
> SPFPASS   spf passx   0   0
> SPFUNKNOWNspf unknown x   0   0
>
> David B
> www.declude.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF
>
> >
> > I use:
> > SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
> > SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
> > SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0
> >
> > > Set 1:
> > > SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
> > > SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
> > >
>
> Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
> global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend
> which Imail's
> SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
> F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own 
> domain.
> Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
> they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
> their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
> user who attempted to open the zip file.
>
> Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?
>
> Brad Morgan
> IT Manager
> Horizon Interactive Inc.
>
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread David Barker
This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAIL spf failx   0   0
SPFPASS spf passx   0   0
SPFUNKNOWN  spf unknown x   0   0 

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

>
> I use:
> SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
> SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
> SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0
>
> > Set 1:
> > SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
> > SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
> >

Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which Imail's
SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Brad Morgan
>
> I use:
> SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
> SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
> SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0
>
> > Set 1:
> > SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
> > SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
> >

Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which Imail's
SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result
the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated their databases and were
delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one user who attempted to open
the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Nick Hayer

Hi Brad,

Brad Morgan wrote:


I am currently running Declude v2.0.6.16. Which of the following pairs of
lines should be in
global.cfg?

Set 1:
SPFFAIL spf failx   9   0
SPFPASS spf passx   0   0
 


The one above.


Set 2:
SPFFAIL spffail x   x   9   0
SPFPASS spfpass x   x   0   0

What would the answer be for 3.0.5.20?
 


dunno!

-Nick


Regards,

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Scott Fisher

I use:
SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

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From: "Brad Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



I am currently running Declude v2.0.6.16. Which of the following pairs of
lines should be in
global.cfg?

Set 1:
SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0

Set 2:
SPFFAIL spffail x x 9 0
SPFPASS spfpass x x 0 0

What would the answer be for 3.0.5.20?

Regards,

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.

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