Re: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail mailservers in several spamdatabases
We have counterweight filter files for all of our higher weight tests. For example, if hotmail ifs failing SORBS-SPAM across the board and we decide to exempt them from that test, then we'll add a REVDNS test to the counterweight file for SORBS-SPAM. This way we can effectively turn tests on or off selectively for certain senders. We primarily use REVDNS (preferred) and MAILFROM (when REVDNS isn't practical or specific enough) in our counterweight tests. Darin. - Original Message - From: Bonno Bloksma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:01 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail mailservers in several spamdatabases Hi, Ik had to put an extra ip file in place to reduce the points on the hotmail mailservers. Several hundred ip numbers for hotmail mailservers are listed in several spam databases. I just added an ipfile with: 65.54.244.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers 65.54.245.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers 65.54.246.0/24 hotmail.com mailservers Which will subtrack 25% of my hold weight to make sure these get through. How are you guys/gals dealing with this? Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.tio.nl --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Title: Message Exactly what I had to do. I was skipping for 2 hours on failure, caching dns info, and doing 20 retries on 30 min intervals. Hotmail wasn’t getting anything from me. I switched back to letting my DNS server do the work (never really saw any benefit anyway), turned off the skip on failure feature (also didn’t make much of a difference except to make my log files a little bigger) and increased my retry to 24 times at one hour intervals. That immediately “fixed the problem”. I actually think things are running a little better this way, likely because the extra effort the server does with dns is offset by my longer retry interval. And I give mail a bigger chance to get delivered to a problematic (or recently changed) mail server. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I also turned off "Failed Domain Skipping" for the same reasons, but I don't believe that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing confusion when helping clients get their servers back online after failures. I figure that with all the processing power that goes into spam and virus blocking, caching and failed domain skipping aren't but 0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer to turn them off. Who knows. Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Interestingly enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem persisting over a week and those hosts never responding. If Microsoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue. Also, MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers. Since the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12, correction, 9 out of 16 hosts that do respond to us. And no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least. Matt Robert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge theproblem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server toretry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threadsandfrequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. Istuffedthe responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zoneandthat alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, becauseIwanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and Ifound that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told myserverto come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MXconnectionproblems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick DavidsonSent: 11 May 2004 20:29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick DavidsonNational Systems ManagerNorth American Title Group-- Original Message ---
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I also turned off "Failed Domain Skipping" for the same reasons, but I don't believe that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing confusion when helping clients get their servers back online after failures. I figure that with all the processing power that goes into spam and virus blocking, caching and failed domain skipping aren't but 0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer to turn them off. Who knows. Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Message Interestingly enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem persisting over a week and those hosts never responding. If Microsoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue. Also, MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers. Since the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12, correction, 9 out of 16 hosts that do respond to us. And no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least. Matt Robert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (h
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Title: Message Interestingly enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem persisting over a week and those hosts never responding. If Microsoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue. Also, MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers. Since the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12, correction, 9 out of 16 hosts that do respond to us. And no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service. Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least.MattRobert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Yes, only in 8.x. Matt Jeff Maze wrote: Is this an option in later version of iMail? We're running 6.06 and I don't recall this anywhere.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least. Matt Robert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Is this an option in later version of iMail? We're running 6.06 and I don't recall this anywhere.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least.MattRobert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least. Matt Robert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing > connection resets from them > > Rick Davidson > National Systems Manager > North American Title Group > - > - Original Message - > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing > connection resets from them > > Rick Davidson > National Systems Manager > North American Title Group > - > - Original Message - > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
You know what's weird.. If I put just backup.dnsreport.com in the address bar, it comes up to DNSstuff.com.. Whoa.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve :-)Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? You may want to use this link instead I can't seem to get the main server to come up.http://backup.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.comSteveDavid Lewis-Waller wrote: This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses as a service to Keeling Inc. Customers]
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
You may want to use this link instead I can't seem to get the main server to come up. http://backup.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com Steve David Lewis-Waller wrote: This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses as a service to Keeling Inc. Customers]
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Hmmm.. Still didn't work.. There's always http://www.checkdns.net This is what checkdns says about dnsreport.com: http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.aspx?domain=www.dnsreport.com&detailed=1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? substitute 'backup' for the 'www' in the url. Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:36 AM, Jeff Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JM> When clicking the link below, I get a "unable to connect to server" JM> (using Opera 7.5).. JM> -Original Message- JM> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert JM> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM JM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? JM> dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. JM> the link doesn't work either? JM> I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. JM> Is it just me? JM> Robert JM> - Original Message - JM> From: David Lewis-Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JM> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JM> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM JM> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? >> This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX >> connection problems. >> >> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick >> > Davidson >> > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? >> > >> > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection >> > resets from them >> > >> > Rick Davidson >> > National Systems Manager >> > North American Title Group >> > - >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM >> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? >> > >> >> --- >> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM> (http://www.declude.com)] >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type >> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at >> http://www.mail-archive.com. >> JM> --- JM> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM> (http://www.declude.com)] JM> --- JM> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JM> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type JM> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at JM> http://www.mail-archive.com. JM> --- JM> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM> (http://www.declude.com)] JM> --- JM> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JM> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type JM> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at JM> http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
substitute 'backup' for the 'www' in the url. Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:36 AM, Jeff Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JM> When clicking the link below, I get a "unable to connect to server" (using JM> Opera 7.5).. JM> -Original Message- JM> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert JM> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM JM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? JM> dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. JM> the link doesn't work either? JM> I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. JM> Is it just me? JM> Robert JM> - Original Message - JM> From: David Lewis-Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JM> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JM> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM JM> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? >> This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX >> connection problems. >> >> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick >> > Davidson >> > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? >> > >> > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection >> > resets from them >> > >> > Rick Davidson >> > National Systems Manager >> > North American Title Group >> > - >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM >> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? >> > >> >> --- >> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM> (http://www.declude.com)] >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type >> "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at >> http://www.mail-archive.com. >> JM> --- JM> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM> (http://www.declude.com)] JM> --- JM> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, JM> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe JM> Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at JM> http://www.mail-archive.com. JM> --- JM> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] JM> --- JM> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JM> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JM> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found JM> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
We've been experiencing intermittent mail problems with ALL the big guys (MSN, YAHOO, HOTMAIL) over the past two months. It would appear that when you get big enough you don't need to follow any rules. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Maze Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? When clicking the link below, I get a "unable to connect to server" (using Opera 7.5).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX > connection problems. > > http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick > > Davidson > > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection > > resets from them > > > > Rick Davidson > > National Systems Manager > > North American Title Group > > - > > - Original Message - > > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I get the same "Page cannot..." with IE 6... Looks like it might be down... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Maze Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? When clicking the link below, I get a "unable to connect to server" (using Opera 7.5).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX > connection problems. > > http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick > > Davidson > > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection > > resets from them > > > > Rick Davidson > > National Systems Manager > > North American Title Group > > - > > - Original Message - > > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
When clicking the link below, I get a "unable to connect to server" (using Opera 7.5).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX > connection problems. > > http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick > > Davidson > > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection > > resets from them > > > > Rick Davidson > > National Systems Manager > > North American Title Group > > - > > - Original Message - > > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection > problems. > > http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson > > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing > > connection resets from them > > > > Rick Davidson > > National Systems Manager > > North American Title Group > > - > > - Original Message - > > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson > Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > > Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing > connection resets from them > > Rick Davidson > National Systems Manager > North American Title Group > - > - Original Message - > From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? > Anybody else with this trouble? I've got 300+ messages queued to > hotmail.com addresses. Both my cached and a fresh DNS query look fine. I > have a ton of: > > MX connect fail "65.54.190.50" > > messages in my Imail log (lots of different IP addresses whose reverse DNS > ends with hotmail.com) > > Andrew. > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail Sending Mail From IP's with No Rev erse DNS
There has been a few posting about this over the last week. I began noticing it last Friday in my logs. Test messages I have sent from my hotmail account are now coming through without failing the REVDNS test. It looks like they are finally correcting this issue. It's about time! Jeffrey Di GregorioCCNP MCSE Systems Administrator Pacific School of Religion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-849-8283 -Original Message- From: Darrell LaRock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail Sending Mail From IP's with No Reverse DNS Has anyone else noticed over the last day or so that some of the hotmail messages are coming from servers without revdns.. This is a snag cause they are failing both revdns and spamdomains.. Any thoughts? Received: from hotmail.com [207.68.164.107] by mail2.gannett-tv.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A6657F0180; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:32:05 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:30:14 -0700 Received: from 134.84.102.157 by sea2-dav3.sea2.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:30:14 + X-Originating-IP: [134.84.102.157] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [POTENTIAL SPAM]Assignment Desk Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:27:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_0009_01C427C5.ECC21740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2004 22:30:14.0967 (UTC) FILETIME=[377B2C70:01C427F0] X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'hotmail.com' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS]. [2-10-5000] X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: "Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]" [2-48-18000] X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 207.68.164.107 with no reverse DNS entry. [2-53-1a800] X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [207.68.164.107] X-Declude-Spoolname: Df665007f01804541.SMD X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12.25.87.100] X-Declude-Spoolname: Df66c3910081cb3c8.SMD X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted X-Spam-Weight: 0 X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Status: U X-UIDL: 377609636 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.
Yeah, I noticed that too.. The message that I saw came from their 65.54 network.. I did a scan on the /24 subnet of it's network and nothing as far as hostname was resolved for anything within that range.. On Tuesday 20 April 2004 03:51 pm, you wrote: > About a week ago Hotmail and MSN had certain mail servers that did not have > reverse DNS entries. Is anyone else seeing this? This is causing a lot of > false positives. I sent an email to Microsoft but that is probably a total > waste of time. > > Anybody know what is up with this. > > Chuck Schick > Warp 8, Inc. > 303-421-5140 > www.warp8.com > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.
Yes, I am getting the same. I have also alerted Microsoft via an employee friend there (hoping this might expediate the fix). This was last Friday... Jeffrey Jeffrey Di GregorioCCNP MCSE Systems Administrator Pacific School of Religion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-849-8283 -Original Message- From: Chuck Schick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:51 PM To: Declude. JunkMail Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed. About a week ago Hotmail and MSN had certain mail servers that did not have reverse DNS entries. Is anyone else seeing this? This is causing a lot of false positives. I sent an email to Microsoft but that is probably a total waste of time. Anybody know what is up with this. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. 303-421-5140 www.warp8.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed.
Yep, got a complaint today as well. Hopefully, AOL is blocking them so that they'll snap out of their coma. Best Regards Andy Schmidt H&M Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 03:51 PM To: Declude. JunkMail Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail and MSN help needed. About a week ago Hotmail and MSN had certain mail servers that did not have reverse DNS entries. Is anyone else seeing this? This is causing a lot of false positives. I sent an email to Microsoft but that is probably a total waste of time. Anybody know what is up with this. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. 303-421-5140 www.warp8.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail being bounced as Undeliverable
Hey Chris, Have you tried to peek in the log? The truth should be in there... Try to identify the spoolname and then run a search for that string in the dec.log. See what you find there. Cheers, Adrian Chris Hickey wrote: > > Anyone have an idea why emails from Hotmail are getting bounced back to the > user as undeliverable? I can't make heads or tails of it.. some of the > emails go through, some don't. One that didn't was to a single person, no > attachment, just a copy/paste of a news article. > > Any ideas? Thanks! > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- Regards, Adrian Titei Director of IT Jumbo Entertainment Inc. p: 905-634-4244 x 232 f: 905-632-2964 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===> Confidentiality Notice: < This e-mail message and any attachment to same contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom the said e-mail is intended to be sent. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or the taking of any action and reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient violates confidentiality and is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail message from your computer. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
These lines are not long enough to wrap, so they are correct as listed below. Bill - Original Message - From: "Glenn Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > I would like to try the file listed below for the spamdomains...but I am > nto sure if wrapping has taken place in the mail client. Could someone send > me a attachement of the text file that has been working for them...thanks > in advance...At 04:31 PM 12/18/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >altavista. .av.com > >amazon.com .forevermail.com > >ameritech.net .sbc.com > >.aol.com > >@aol.com .aol.com > >.apple.com > >@apple.com .apple.com > >.att. .cdpd.airdata.com > >@att. .att. > >attbi.com .comcast. > >bellatlantic.net .verizon.net > >.bellsouth.net > >@bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net > >.btinternet. > >@btinternet. .btinternet. > >.buy.com .dartmail.com > >@buy.com .buy.com > >.charter.net > >@charter.net .charter.net > >.cisco.com > >@cisco.com .cisco.com > >.comcast. > >@comcast. .comcast. > >.compaq.com > >@compaq.com .compaq.com > >compuserve.com .aol.com > >concentric.com .cnchost.com > >concentric.net .cnc.net > >.cox. > >@cox. .cox. > >@cs.com .aol.com > >.dell.com > >@dell.com .dell.com > >earthlink. .mindspring. > >.ebay.com .emailebay.com > >@ebay.com .ebay.com > >excite.com .excitenetwork.com > >.gateway.com .dartmail.net > >@gateway.com .gateway.com > >geocities.com .yahoo.com > >gte. .verizon. > >.hotmail.com > >@hotmail.com .hotmail.com > >hp.com .compaq.com > >juno.com .untd.com > >.lycos.com > >@lycos.com .lycos.com > >.microsoft.com > >@microsoft.com .microsoft.com > >mindspring. .earthlink. > >msn.com .hotmail.com > >netscape. .aol.com > >netzero. .untd.com > >.paypal.com > >@paypal.com .paypal.com > >prodigy.net .yahoo. > >psi. .cogentco.com > >qwest. .uswest. > >.rr.com > >@rr.com .rr.com > >.sbc.com > >@sbc.com .sbc.com > >sprint. .sprintlink.net > >swbell.net .prodigy.net > >uswest. .qwest. > >verio. .veriomail.com > >verizon.com .gte.com > >verizon.net .bellatlantic. > >.yahoo. > >@yahoo. .yahoo. > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
I had pretty much everything correct except the SPAM-DOMAINS (I had SPAMDOMAINS). Thank you very much for clearing this up for me, it has truly knocked the level of spam down significantly in just over an hour. Darryl Koster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? Add an entry to your global.cfg like: SPAM-DOMAINS spamdomains M:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 10 0 setting the weight test to whatever you want (reflected as a weight 10 above). Bill - Original Message - From: "Darryl Koster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need to > create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from below) > but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone > give me a quick "how to". > > Thanks > > Darryl Koster > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been > working well for me, thus far: > > altavista. .av.com > amazon.com .forevermail.com > ameritech.net .sbc.com > .aol.com > @aol.com .aol.com > .apple.com > @apple.com .apple.com > .att. .cdpd.airdata.com > @att. .att. > attbi.com .comcast. > bellatlantic.net .verizon.net > .bellsouth.net > @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net > .btinternet. > @btinternet. .btinternet. > .buy.com .dartmail.com > @buy.com .buy.com > .charter.net > @charter.net .charter.net > .cisco.com > @cisco.com .cisco.com > .comcast. > @comcast. .comcast. > .compaq.com > @compaq.com .compaq.com > compuserve.com .aol.com > concentric.com .cnchost.com > concentric.net .cnc.net > .cox. > @cox. .cox. > @cs.com .aol.com > .dell.com > @dell.com .dell.com > earthlink. .mindspring. > .ebay.com .emailebay.com > @ebay.com .ebay.com > excite.com .excitenetwork.com > .gateway.com .dartmail.net > @gateway.com .gateway.com > geocities.com .yahoo.com > gte. .verizon. > .hotmail.com > @hotmail.com .hotmail.com > hp.com .compaq.com > juno.com .untd.com > .lycos.com > @lycos.com .lycos.com > .microsoft.com > @microsoft.com .microsoft.com > mindspring. .earthlink. > msn.com .hotmail.com > netscape. .aol.com > netzero. .untd.com > .paypal.com > @paypal.com .paypal.com > prodigy.net .yahoo. > psi. .cogentco.com > qwest. .uswest. > .rr.com > @rr.com .rr.com > .sbc.com > @sbc.com .sbc.com > sprint. .sprintlink.net > swbell.net .prodigy.net > uswest. .qwest. > verio. .veriomail.com > verizon.com .gte.com > verizon.net .bellatlantic. > .yahoo. > @yahoo. .yahoo. > > Bill > - Original Message - > From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of > spam, > > cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty > > good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to > it. > > > > I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains. > > > > Rich > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > > > > Greetings-- > > > > > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming > > > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating > > > from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > > > CCNA CCDA > > > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > > > > > Region VII Education Service Center > > > 1909 N. Longview St. > > > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > > > 903-988-6955 > > > FX 903-988-6965 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by De
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
Could you explain to a newbie what the format is of the C:\Imail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt file is and what the entries mean? Looking back through the archives, I see some lines with single entries and others with 2 entries per line. Like: .aol.com @aol.com .aol.com The first column is text that must appear in the return address of the E-mail (from the X-Declude-Sender: header) header in order for that line to be used. If there is a match there, then the reverse DNS entry must contain either the text from the first column or the second column. So ".aol.com" would not do much, as most AOL E-mail comes from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (which doesn't contain ".aol.com"). However, E-mail from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would need to come from an IP with a reverse DNS entry containing ".aol.com". The "@aol.com .aol.com" line would require that any E-mail from @aol.com have a reverse DNS entry with either "@aol.com" or ".aol.com" in it (note that a reverse DNS entry won't have "@aol.com" in it, so it essentially would require the reverse DNS entry to contain ".aol.com"). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
I would like to try the file listed below for the spamdomains...but I am nto sure if wrapping has taken place in the mail client. Could someone send me a attachement of the text file that has been working for them...thanks in advance...At 04:31 PM 12/18/2003 -0500, you wrote: altavista. .av.com amazon.com .forevermail.com ameritech.net .sbc.com .aol.com @aol.com .aol.com .apple.com @apple.com .apple.com .att. .cdpd.airdata.com @att. .att. attbi.com .comcast. bellatlantic.net .verizon.net .bellsouth.net @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net .btinternet. @btinternet. .btinternet. .buy.com .dartmail.com @buy.com .buy.com .charter.net @charter.net .charter.net .cisco.com @cisco.com .cisco.com .comcast. @comcast. .comcast. .compaq.com @compaq.com .compaq.com compuserve.com .aol.com concentric.com .cnchost.com concentric.net .cnc.net .cox. @cox. .cox. @cs.com .aol.com .dell.com @dell.com .dell.com earthlink. .mindspring. .ebay.com .emailebay.com @ebay.com .ebay.com excite.com .excitenetwork.com .gateway.com .dartmail.net @gateway.com .gateway.com geocities.com .yahoo.com gte. .verizon. .hotmail.com @hotmail.com .hotmail.com hp.com .compaq.com juno.com .untd.com .lycos.com @lycos.com .lycos.com .microsoft.com @microsoft.com .microsoft.com mindspring. .earthlink. msn.com .hotmail.com netscape. .aol.com netzero. .untd.com .paypal.com @paypal.com .paypal.com prodigy.net .yahoo. psi. .cogentco.com qwest. .uswest. .rr.com @rr.com .rr.com .sbc.com @sbc.com .sbc.com sprint. .sprintlink.net swbell.net .prodigy.net uswest. .qwest. verio. .veriomail.com verizon.com .gte.com verizon.net .bellatlantic. .yahoo. @yahoo. .yahoo. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
Could you explain to a newbie what the format is of the C:\Imail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt file is and what the entries mean? Looking back through the archives, I see some lines with single entries and others with 2 entries per line. Like: .aol.com@aol.com .aol.com Thx. -Marc - Original Message - From: Bill Landry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? Add an entry to your global.cfg like:SPAM-DOMAINS spamdomains M:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 10 0setting the weight test to whatever you want (reflected as a weight 10above).Bill- Original Message - From: "Darryl Koster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PMSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?>>> How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I needto> create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains frombelow)> but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone> give me a quick "how to".>> Thanks>> Darryl Koster>> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?>>> I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this hasbeen> working well for me, thus far:>> altavista. .av.com> amazon.com .forevermail.com> ameritech.net .sbc.com> .aol.com> @aol.com .aol.com> .apple.com> @apple.com .apple.com> .att. .cdpd.airdata.com> @att. .att.> attbi.com .comcast.> bellatlantic.net .verizon.net> .bellsouth.net> @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net> .btinternet.> @btinternet. .btinternet.> .buy.com .dartmail.com> @buy.com .buy.com> .charter.net> @charter.net .charter.net> .cisco.com> @cisco.com .cisco.com> .comcast.> @comcast. .comcast.> .compaq.com> @compaq.com .compaq.com> compuserve.com .aol.com> concentric.com .cnchost.com> concentric.net .cnc.net> .cox.> @cox. .cox.> @cs.com .aol.com> .dell.com> @dell.com .dell.com> earthlink. .mindspring.> .ebay.com .emailebay.com> @ebay.com .ebay.com> excite.com .excitenetwork.com> .gateway.com .dartmail.net> @gateway.com .gateway.com> geocities.com .yahoo.com> gte. .verizon.> .hotmail.com> @hotmail.com .hotmail.com> hp.com .compaq.com> juno.com .untd.com> .lycos.com> @lycos.com .lycos.com> .microsoft.com> @microsoft.com .microsoft.com> mindspring. .earthlink.> msn.com .hotmail.com> netscape. .aol.com> netzero. .untd.com> .paypal.com> @paypal.com .paypal.com> prodigy.net .yahoo.> psi. .cogentco.com> qwest. .uswest.> .rr.com> @rr.com .rr.com> .sbc.com> @sbc.com .sbc.com> sprint. .sprintlink.net> swbell.net .prodigy.net> uswest. .qwest.> verio. .veriomail.com> verizon.com .gte.com> verizon.net .bellatlantic.> .yahoo.> @yahoo. .yahoo.>> Bill> - Original Message -> From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?>>> > Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of> spam,> > cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that workspretty> > good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to> it.> >> > I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains.> >> > Rich> > - Original Message -> > From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?> >> >> > > Greetings--> > >> > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming> > > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mailoriginating> > > from the real hotmail host(s) through ?> > >> > >> > > --> > >> > >> > >> > > ==Ron Rushing==> > > CCNA CCDA> > > Network Manager- ESC7Net> > >> > > Region VII Education Service Center> > > 1909 N. Longview St.> > > Kilgore, Texas 75662> > > 903-988-6955> > > FX 903-988-6965> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
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In global.cfg: SPAMDOMAINS spamdomains c:\imail\declude\spamdomains.txt x 7 0 change the weight to suit your needs...change the path to that of your location on your server Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web SolutionsR, Inc. 804-346-5300 ext. 1 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) ext. 1 http://globalweb.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darryl Koster Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need to create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from below) but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone give me a quick "how to". Thanks Darryl Koster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been working well for me, thus far: altavista. .av.com amazon.com .forevermail.com ameritech.net .sbc.com .aol.com @aol.com .aol.com .apple.com @apple.com .apple.com .att. .cdpd.airdata.com @att. .att. attbi.com .comcast. bellatlantic.net .verizon.net .bellsouth.net @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net .btinternet. @btinternet. .btinternet. .buy.com .dartmail.com @buy.com .buy.com .charter.net @charter.net .charter.net .cisco.com @cisco.com .cisco.com .comcast. @comcast. .comcast. .compaq.com @compaq.com .compaq.com compuserve.com .aol.com concentric.com .cnchost.com concentric.net .cnc.net .cox. @cox. .cox. @cs.com .aol.com .dell.com @dell.com .dell.com earthlink. .mindspring. .ebay.com .emailebay.com @ebay.com .ebay.com excite.com .excitenetwork.com .gateway.com .dartmail.net @gateway.com .gateway.com geocities.com .yahoo.com gte. .verizon. .hotmail.com @hotmail.com .hotmail.com hp.com .compaq.com juno.com .untd.com .lycos.com @lycos.com .lycos.com .microsoft.com @microsoft.com .microsoft.com mindspring. .earthlink. msn.com .hotmail.com netscape. .aol.com netzero. .untd.com .paypal.com @paypal.com .paypal.com prodigy.net .yahoo. psi. .cogentco.com qwest. .uswest. .rr.com @rr.com .rr.com .sbc.com @sbc.com .sbc.com sprint. .sprintlink.net swbell.net .prodigy.net uswest. .qwest. verio. .veriomail.com verizon.com .gte.com verizon.net .bellatlantic. .yahoo. @yahoo. .yahoo. Bill - Original Message - From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of spam, > cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that works > pretty good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post > the link to it. > > I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains. > > Rich > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > Greetings-- > > > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk > > coming from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail > > originating from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > > CCNA CCDA > > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > > > Region VII Education Service Center > > 1909 N. Longview St. > > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > > 903-988-6955 > > FX 903-988-6965 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscrib
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Add an entry to your global.cfg like: SPAM-DOMAINS spamdomains M:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 10 0 setting the weight test to whatever you want (reflected as a weight 10 above). Bill - Original Message - From: "Darryl Koster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need to > create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from below) > but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone > give me a quick "how to". > > Thanks > > Darryl Koster > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been > working well for me, thus far: > > altavista. .av.com > amazon.com .forevermail.com > ameritech.net .sbc.com > .aol.com > @aol.com .aol.com > .apple.com > @apple.com .apple.com > .att. .cdpd.airdata.com > @att. .att. > attbi.com .comcast. > bellatlantic.net .verizon.net > .bellsouth.net > @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net > .btinternet. > @btinternet. .btinternet. > .buy.com .dartmail.com > @buy.com .buy.com > .charter.net > @charter.net .charter.net > .cisco.com > @cisco.com .cisco.com > .comcast. > @comcast. .comcast. > .compaq.com > @compaq.com .compaq.com > compuserve.com .aol.com > concentric.com .cnchost.com > concentric.net .cnc.net > .cox. > @cox. .cox. > @cs.com .aol.com > .dell.com > @dell.com .dell.com > earthlink. .mindspring. > .ebay.com .emailebay.com > @ebay.com .ebay.com > excite.com .excitenetwork.com > .gateway.com .dartmail.net > @gateway.com .gateway.com > geocities.com .yahoo.com > gte. .verizon. > .hotmail.com > @hotmail.com .hotmail.com > hp.com .compaq.com > juno.com .untd.com > .lycos.com > @lycos.com .lycos.com > .microsoft.com > @microsoft.com .microsoft.com > mindspring. .earthlink. > msn.com .hotmail.com > netscape. .aol.com > netzero. .untd.com > .paypal.com > @paypal.com .paypal.com > prodigy.net .yahoo. > psi. .cogentco.com > qwest. .uswest. > .rr.com > @rr.com .rr.com > .sbc.com > @sbc.com .sbc.com > sprint. .sprintlink.net > swbell.net .prodigy.net > uswest. .qwest. > verio. .veriomail.com > verizon.com .gte.com > verizon.net .bellatlantic. > .yahoo. > @yahoo. .yahoo. > > Bill > - Original Message - > From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of > spam, > > cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty > > good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to > it. > > > > I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains. > > > > Rich > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > > > > Greetings-- > > > > > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming > > > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating > > > from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > > > CCNA CCDA > > > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > > > > > Region VII Education Service Center > > > 1909 N. Longview St. > > > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > > > 903-988-6955 > > > FX 903-988-6965 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >
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How exactly do I set up the spamdomains test in my system. I know I need to create /imail/declude/spamdomains.txt file (I added the domains from below) but I am unsure of how to set it up in the GLOBAL.CFG file. Could someone give me a quick "how to". Thanks Darryl Koster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been working well for me, thus far: altavista. .av.com amazon.com .forevermail.com ameritech.net .sbc.com .aol.com @aol.com .aol.com .apple.com @apple.com .apple.com .att. .cdpd.airdata.com @att. .att. attbi.com .comcast. bellatlantic.net .verizon.net .bellsouth.net @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net .btinternet. @btinternet. .btinternet. .buy.com .dartmail.com @buy.com .buy.com .charter.net @charter.net .charter.net .cisco.com @cisco.com .cisco.com .comcast. @comcast. .comcast. .compaq.com @compaq.com .compaq.com compuserve.com .aol.com concentric.com .cnchost.com concentric.net .cnc.net .cox. @cox. .cox. @cs.com .aol.com .dell.com @dell.com .dell.com earthlink. .mindspring. .ebay.com .emailebay.com @ebay.com .ebay.com excite.com .excitenetwork.com .gateway.com .dartmail.net @gateway.com .gateway.com geocities.com .yahoo.com gte. .verizon. .hotmail.com @hotmail.com .hotmail.com hp.com .compaq.com juno.com .untd.com .lycos.com @lycos.com .lycos.com .microsoft.com @microsoft.com .microsoft.com mindspring. .earthlink. msn.com .hotmail.com netscape. .aol.com netzero. .untd.com .paypal.com @paypal.com .paypal.com prodigy.net .yahoo. psi. .cogentco.com qwest. .uswest. .rr.com @rr.com .rr.com .sbc.com @sbc.com .sbc.com sprint. .sprintlink.net swbell.net .prodigy.net uswest. .qwest. verio. .veriomail.com verizon.com .gte.com verizon.net .bellatlantic. .yahoo. @yahoo. .yahoo. Bill - Original Message - From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of spam, > cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty > good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to it. > > I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains. > > Rich > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > Greetings-- > > > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming > > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating > > from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > > CCNA CCDA > > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > > > Region VII Education Service Center > > 1909 N. Longview St. > > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > > 903-988-6955 > > FX 903-988-6965 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
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I haven't updated my spamdomains file for quite some time, but this has been working well for me, thus far: altavista. .av.com amazon.com .forevermail.com ameritech.net .sbc.com .aol.com @aol.com .aol.com .apple.com @apple.com .apple.com .att. .cdpd.airdata.com @att. .att. attbi.com .comcast. bellatlantic.net .verizon.net .bellsouth.net @bellsouth.net .bellsouth.net .btinternet. @btinternet. .btinternet. .buy.com .dartmail.com @buy.com .buy.com .charter.net @charter.net .charter.net .cisco.com @cisco.com .cisco.com .comcast. @comcast. .comcast. .compaq.com @compaq.com .compaq.com compuserve.com .aol.com concentric.com .cnchost.com concentric.net .cnc.net .cox. @cox. .cox. @cs.com .aol.com .dell.com @dell.com .dell.com earthlink. .mindspring. .ebay.com .emailebay.com @ebay.com .ebay.com excite.com .excitenetwork.com .gateway.com .dartmail.net @gateway.com .gateway.com geocities.com .yahoo.com gte. .verizon. .hotmail.com @hotmail.com .hotmail.com hp.com .compaq.com juno.com .untd.com .lycos.com @lycos.com .lycos.com .microsoft.com @microsoft.com .microsoft.com mindspring. .earthlink. msn.com .hotmail.com netscape. .aol.com netzero. .untd.com .paypal.com @paypal.com .paypal.com prodigy.net .yahoo. psi. .cogentco.com qwest. .uswest. .rr.com @rr.com .rr.com .sbc.com @sbc.com .sbc.com sprint. .sprintlink.net swbell.net .prodigy.net uswest. .qwest. verio. .veriomail.com verizon.com .gte.com verizon.net .bellatlantic. .yahoo. @yahoo. .yahoo. Bill - Original Message - From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of spam, > cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty > good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to it. > > I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains. > > Rich > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > > > > Greetings-- > > > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming > > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating > > from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > > CCNA CCDA > > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > > > Region VII Education Service Center > > 1909 N. Longview St. > > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > > 903-988-6955 > > FX 903-988-6965 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
Can someone please share their spamdomains file? Thanks, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? Ron, The best thing for hotmail is to setup spamdomains. For hotmail we use the following in our spamdomains file hotmail.com msn.com Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com Ron Rushing writes: > Greetings-- > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating > from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > -- > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > CCNA CCDA > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > Region VII Education Service Center > 1909 N. Longview St. > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > 903-988-6955 > FX 903-988-6965 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
Ron, The best thing for hotmail is to setup spamdomains. For hotmail we use the following in our spamdomains file hotmail.com msn.com Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com Ron Rushing writes: Greetings-- Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating from the real hotmail host(s) through ? -- ==Ron Rushing== CCNA CCDA Network Manager- ESC7Net Region VII Education Service Center 1909 N. Longview St. Kilgore, Texas 75662 903-988-6955 FX 903-988-6965 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ?
Spamdomains works, and we've been building a list of common sources of spam, cable modem IP's and such. Bill has a spamdomains list that works pretty good, if there's an update to it he might read this and post the link to it. I haven't had a lot of false postives on Spamdomains. Rich - Original Message - From: "Ron Rushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:48 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOTMAIL ? > Greetings-- > > Would someone please share a strategy to identify or block junk coming > from spoofed/relayed hotmail addys, while letting legit mail originating > from the real hotmail host(s) through ? > > > -- > > > > ==Ron Rushing== > CCNA CCDA > Network Manager- ESC7Net > > Region VII Education Service Center > 1909 N. Longview St. > Kilgore, Texas 75662 > 903-988-6955 > FX 903-988-6965 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
Agreed here - we've been working on various white-rules for these domains and each attempt has failed due to the amount of actual spam sourced from these servers. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith | Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:54 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... | | | I'd stay away from IP's because they can change all of the | time. But the problem still is that actual spam comes from those IP's. | | > -Original Message- | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Markus Gufler | > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:48 AM | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... | > | > | > I'm not sure if I'm right with this: | > Should it be possible to determine a list of IP-ranges from | > the real outgoung smtp-servers of this popular domains, then | > Declude probably can add a new test if this mail (using a | > popular from domain) commes from one of this ip-ranges. | > | > Even if this ip-ranges are very wide (Class C or B) a lot of | > spamming servers forging the recipients adress should be caught. | > | > Markus | > | > | > | > | > > -Original Message- | > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Mark Smith | > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:32 PM | > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... | > > | > > | > > What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other | > > web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so | > > frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but it's | > > also a large source of legitimate email. | > > | > > They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're | already at 6-8 | > > points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist | them, and the | > > RBL's usually send them over the edge. | > > | > > I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, | > > yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let | > > message sniffer do some magic on these sites. | > > | > > Thoughts? | > > | > > --- | > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] | > > | > > --- | > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus | > (http://www.declude.com)] | > | > --- | > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To | > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type | > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at | > http://www.mail-archive.com. | > | > --- | > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus | > (http://www.declude.com)] | > | > --- | > This E-mail came from the | > Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To | > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and | > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found | > at http://www.mail-archive.com. | > --- | > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] | > | > | | --- | [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
That's the problem... Hotmail is on and off of Spamcop every other day. We bounce at 12 and delete at 20. Spamcop is at 8 so I'll put in -8 for hotmail which will adjust for the nopostmaster and noabuse. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John > Tolmachoff > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... > > > The way I have it configured, they will end up with a weight > of 8 and we hold at 20, so they would have to fail a test > like SPAMCOP or NOXMAIL or one of our major filters to be held. > > John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA > IT Manager, Network Engineer > RelianceSoft, Inc. > Fullerton, CA 92835 > www.reliancesoft.com > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the > Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an > E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for > viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
We use Declude standard weights and add 15 for ones that fail SortMonster tests. We hold on weights over 30 and I don't think we've caught legitimate mail from these sources for sometime. Our only real fine tuning was to negative weight some email domains (below). We don't use any kill lists at all. MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com MAILFROM -30 CONTAINS @economist.com MAILFROM -100 CONTAINS .ft.com MAILFROM -30 CONTAINS @bbc.co.uk HEADERS 15 CONTAINS charset="GB2312" David WiSS Limited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith Sent: 09 January 2003 16:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but it's also a large source of legitimate email. They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already at 6-8 points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge. I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let message sniffer do some magic on these sites. Thoughts? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
The way I have it configured, they will end up with a weight of 8 and we hold at 20, so they would have to fail a test like SPAMCOP or NOXMAIL or one of our major filters to be held. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
I'd stay away from IP's because they can change all of the time. But the problem still is that actual spam comes from those IP's. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... > > > I'm not sure if I'm right with this: > Should it be possible to determine a list of IP-ranges from > the real outgoung smtp-servers of this popular domains, then > Declude probably can add a new test if this mail (using a > popular from domain) commes from one of this ip-ranges. > > Even if this ip-ranges are very wide (Class C or B) a lot of > spamming servers forging the recipients adress should be caught. > > Markus > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:32 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... > > > > > > What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other > > web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so > > frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but > > it's also a large source of legitimate email. > > > > They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already > > at 6-8 points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist > > them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge. > > > > I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for > > hotmail, yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and > > abuse and let message sniffer do some magic on these sites. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the > Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
> We have a list of any free domains that we have received mail > from. The free sites we add 5 to start with. [I can send you > the list if you want] Can you send those to me? Thanks! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... > > > What we have done is weigh negatively the sum of those tests > for these two domains (Yahoo, Hotmail). > > We have a list of any free domains that we have received mail > from. The free sites we add 5 to start with. [I can send you > the list if you want] > > The Hotmail and Yahoo spam are typically caught by a lot of > other tests such as body filters. Basically we have created > a filter for all the URL's that are used in the spam and > weigh them if they occur. Combination of these has reduced > the spam to almost 1 or 2 a week (even if that). We do not > use Sniffer.. So far have not found any need for it since we > have an extensive filter file for URL addresses that appear > in spam. (I can have it sent to you if you want). > > For Base64 tests we have basically made the weight enough > such that if any other tests are failed, or if it is coming > from any free email address then it will be held for review. > > Regards, > Kami > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... > > > What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other > web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so > frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but > it's also a large source of legitimate email. > > They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already > at 6-8 points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist > them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge. > > I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for > hotmail, yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and > abuse and let message sniffer do some magic on these sites. > > Thoughts? > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the > Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an > E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned > for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
I'm not sure if I'm right with this: Should it be possible to determine a list of IP-ranges from the real outgoung smtp-servers of this popular domains, then Declude probably can add a new test if this mail (using a popular from domain) commes from one of this ip-ranges. Even if this ip-ranges are very wide (Class C or B) a lot of spamming servers forging the recipients adress should be caught. Markus > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... > > > What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other > web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so > frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but > it's also a large source of legitimate email. > > They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already > at 6-8 points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist > them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge. > > I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for > hotmail, yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and > abuse and let message sniffer do some magic on these sites. > > Thoughts? > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
What we have done is weigh negatively the sum of those tests for these two domains (Yahoo, Hotmail). We have a list of any free domains that we have received mail from. The free sites we add 5 to start with. [I can send you the list if you want] The Hotmail and Yahoo spam are typically caught by a lot of other tests such as body filters. Basically we have created a filter for all the URL's that are used in the spam and weigh them if they occur. Combination of these has reduced the spam to almost 1 or 2 a week (even if that). We do not use Sniffer.. So far have not found any need for it since we have an extensive filter file for URL addresses that appear in spam. (I can have it sent to you if you want). For Base64 tests we have basically made the weight enough such that if any other tests are failed, or if it is coming from any free email address then it will be held for review. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc... What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but it's also a large source of legitimate email. They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already at 6-8 points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge. I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let message sniffer do some magic on these sites. Thoughts? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail !?
Actually - you need to disable OSSRC for now. SPEWS has an error in their database instead of listing 64.x.x.x to 64.x.y.z - they accidentally omitted the second "6" - so currently their database is blocking: 64.x.x.x to 4.x.y.z Of course, just like Spammers, SPEWS does NOT provide true contact information. They play god "we don't need anyone to ever contact us, we are always without fault". Makes you appreciate, why outfits like them get sued into the ground eventually. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail !? Seems like hotmail been ossrc listed !? Found it in our hold queue this morning. There was a bunch from this person sent to this same person and you can see in the message that it's a continues thread. Received: from hotmail.com [64.4.30.124] by imail.fament.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id ACB422910122; Wed, 01 May 2002 09:33:24 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 May 2002 07:30:20 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [12.147.72.21] From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <003201c1f114$05edb930$291bbdd0@rene> Subject: Re: thoughts Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:32:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_0083_01C1F0EA.BACDFD80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 14:30:20.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[B90E8780:01C1F11C] X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [64.4.30.124] X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. X-Note: This E-mail was sent from oe20.pav1.hotmail.com. ([64.4.30.124]). X-Tests-Failed: OSSRC. Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail !?
Nothing like posting on your own post. Also seems atleast one AOL server and one prodidgy server also been OSSRC listed. Got a chunk of legit mail that was caught this morning and tonight thanks to OSSRC. Guess I really need to go all the way with the weighted system consider I'm using a combination weighted and "hardcoded" tests. Wednesday, May 01, 2002, 10:38:25 AM, you wrote: EG> Seems like hotmail been ossrc listed !? Found it in our hold queue EG> this morning. There was a bunch from this person sent to this same EG> person and you can see in the message that it's a continues thread. EG> Received: from hotmail.com [64.4.30.124] by imail.fament.com with ESMTP EG> (SMTPD32-7.07) id ACB422910122; Wed, 01 May 2002 09:33:24 -0500 EG> Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; EG> Wed, 1 May 2002 07:30:20 -0700 EG> X-Originating-IP: [12.147.72.21] EG> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> EG> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> EG> References: <003201c1f114$05edb930$291bbdd0@rene> EG> Subject: Re: thoughts EG> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:32:29 -0600 EG> MIME-Version: 1.0 EG> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; EG> boundary="=_NextPart_000_0083_01C1F0EA.BACDFD80" EG> X-Priority: 3 EG> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal EG> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. EG> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. EG> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> EG> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 14:30:20.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[B90E8780:01C1F11C] EG> X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [64.4.30.124] EG> X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. EG> X-Note: This E-mail was sent from oe20.pav1.hotmail.com. ([64.4.30.124]). EG> X-Tests-Failed: OSSRC. EG> Best regards, EG> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EG> --- EG> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com EG> Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 EG> eBay UserID : macahan EG> - Your Full Time Professionals - EG> --- EG> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] EG> --- EG> [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] EG> --- EG> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To EG> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and EG> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail EG> [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web EG> site at http://www.declude.com . EG> --- EG> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] hotmail issue
>Comments please. This is an email caught by declude that is a >legitimate email. I'm still learning so be gentle ;). > >This the recent log entry of an email that failed MAILFROM > >01/02/2002 14:04:48 Q59c9280 Msg failed MAILFROM (Domain hotmail.com; has >no MX/A records.). At first glance it looks like Declude made a mistake. However, the problem is that the ASP component (AspEmail) that sent the E-mail is FUBAR: >From: "Chris Sharman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]> That's not a valid E-mail address. Chris Sharman may *want* to use two different return addresses, but you're only allowed to use one. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .