RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE spool folder

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


>Declude left a number of .vir directories ...

Were there any error messages in the log file?  If Declude Virus can't 
delete the .vir directories, there should be a log file entry with more 
information as to what happened.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE spool folder

2002-06-12 Thread Smart Business Lists

We had a situation twice today where IMAIL just quit delivering
messages.

We sent out a relatively small mailing of 2,000+ messages from another
sever but the bounces came back to our Imail server. Each time the
server received maybe 200 messages at one time. The declude overflow
folder had 100-170 or so and another 30 in the spool.

Declude left a number of .vir directories and in Task manager there
were many (didn't count them) declude.exe tasks accompanied by an equal
number of sniffer.exe tasks.  There was not a corresponding SMTP task
for each one.

Toggling the mail server itself did not help.  The messages would not
send using the console.

Finally I rebooted the server.  As soon as it came up the
overflow directory emptied and most of the queue emptied except for
the 30 or so messages in the queue which were stuck before reboot in
some stage of delivery.  I had to send them one by one from the
console.  They all delivered - just took me a few minutes to send
them.

I think all of them were local deliveries from <>.  In the
log files I got a few of these errors new to me anyway:

local fail to domain account-main (310) <> 0

I had to delete the .vir directories.  Some had files in them.

This is the first time we've seen this in similar mailings.

I think it may have something to do with sniffer's interaction with
declude when a bunch of messages are moved to the overflow directory.  Sniffer
is the only significant change we've made in the last few days.

Declude seems to be doing what it is supposed to do but something at
some point simply stops Imail from delivering certain messages in the
spool and then Declude never puts the overflow back until I reboot.

We had a morning mailing and an afternoon mailing and the same thing
happened in each case.


Terry Fritts

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE spool folder

2002-06-12 Thread Mark Smith
Title: Message



Are 
you sure they're not NDR's from Klez?
I've 
been flooded with them. I had to change my SMTP retry to 6 
hours.
 
Check 
for that and also use SpamReview to look at the HOLD items.
 
 
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On Behalf Of Glenn \ WCNetSent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:14 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
[Declude.JunkMail] HUGE spool folder

  Before changing WEIGHT30 to HOLD, it was 
  WARN.
   
  WEIGHT10, 14, and 20 are still WARN.  All 
  other tests are LOG.
   
  G.Z.
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
R. Scott 
Perry 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:10 
PM
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE 
    spool folder
>I upgraded from IMail 6.06 to IMail 7.1 HF1 a few 
days ago.  Since then, >my spool directory has grown by leaps 
and bounds.  It normally runs >between 300 and 500 files (I 
think).  Yesterday evening it was at about >1500.  Earlier 
this afternoon it passed 2800.  Now it's about 2750.  I've 
>moved (a few) files older than 3 days out of the queue, it didn't 
make any >difference -- spool keeps growing.  They look like 
normal T, D, and Q >files dated within the last three days, but why 
are there so many???  I'm >not getting any specific complaints 
about undelivered or missing mail from >my users.>>I am 
running Declude JunkMail and Virus.  Perhaps the extra processing is 
>putting too much of a load on the server?That shouldn't be 
it -- you should see similar loads on 6.06 and 7.1.Have you checked 
the spool files to see if there is any pattern to what is in there, to 
make sure the problem isn't a mail loop, for example?>Yesterday 
afternoon I changed my default $junkmail$.config to HOLD on 
>WEIGHT30.  I do think the spool started growing *before* that 
change, but >in case I'm mistaken and it was after, would there be 
any connection??What was it before?  If it was DELETE before, 
there would be slightly more system load having it at HOLD, but it 
shouldn't be enough to cause mail delivery to slow 
down.    
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE spool folder

2002-06-12 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet



Before changing WEIGHT30 to HOLD, it was 
WARN.
 
WEIGHT10, 14, and 20 are still WARN.  All 
other tests are LOG.
 
G.Z.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  R. Scott 
  Perry 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE 
  spool folder
  >I upgraded from IMail 6.06 to IMail 7.1 HF1 a few days 
  ago.  Since then, >my spool directory has grown by leaps and 
  bounds.  It normally runs >between 300 and 500 files (I 
  think).  Yesterday evening it was at about >1500.  Earlier 
  this afternoon it passed 2800.  Now it's about 2750.  I've 
  >moved (a few) files older than 3 days out of the queue, it didn't make 
  any >difference -- spool keeps growing.  They look like normal T, 
  D, and Q >files dated within the last three days, but why are there so 
  many???  I'm >not getting any specific complaints about 
  undelivered or missing mail from >my users.>>I am running 
  Declude JunkMail and Virus.  Perhaps the extra processing is 
  >putting too much of a load on the server?That shouldn't be it 
  -- you should see similar loads on 6.06 and 7.1.Have you checked the 
  spool files to see if there is any pattern to what is in there, to make 
  sure the problem isn't a mail loop, for example?>Yesterday 
  afternoon I changed my default $junkmail$.config to HOLD on 
  >WEIGHT30.  I do think the spool started growing *before* that 
  change, but >in case I'm mistaken and it was after, would there be any 
  connection??What was it before?  If it was DELETE before, there 
  would be slightly more system load having it at HOLD, but it shouldn't be 
  enough to cause mail delivery to slow 
  down.    
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HUGE spool folder

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


>I upgraded from IMail 6.06 to IMail 7.1 HF1 a few days ago.  Since then, 
>my spool directory has grown by leaps and bounds.  It normally runs 
>between 300 and 500 files (I think).  Yesterday evening it was at about 
>1500.  Earlier this afternoon it passed 2800.  Now it's about 2750.  I've 
>moved (a few) files older than 3 days out of the queue, it didn't make any 
>difference -- spool keeps growing.  They look like normal T, D, and Q 
>files dated within the last three days, but why are there so many???  I'm 
>not getting any specific complaints about undelivered or missing mail from 
>my users.
>
>I am running Declude JunkMail and Virus.  Perhaps the extra processing is 
>putting too much of a load on the server?

That shouldn't be it -- you should see similar loads on 6.06 and 7.1.

Have you checked the spool files to see if there is any pattern to what is 
in there, to make sure the problem isn't a mail loop, for example?

>Yesterday afternoon I changed my default $junkmail$.config to HOLD on 
>WEIGHT30.  I do think the spool started growing *before* that change, but 
>in case I'm mistaken and it was after, would there be any connection??

What was it before?  If it was DELETE before, there would be slightly more 
system load having it at HOLD, but it shouldn't be enough to cause mail 
delivery to slow down.
-Scott

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