Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution

2006-12-06 Thread Serge

thank you all for your help
specially you sandy
we had major problems with sqlserver, and chosed to move away to hyperfile 
C/S (Which is almost free) and are very satisfied

3500 for double take seems ok, i will try to add it on 07 budget
Is it easy to install ? and do you get free support ? do they have good 
support ?



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Seriously, what's low?


...I   ask  because  clustering's  ROI  is  kind  of  a  hard  target.
Unfortunately,  I  almost  always find it easier to justify clustering
solutions  for  my  clients  *after*  they  haven't  heeded an initial
clustering  suggestion  and have had outages and/or data loss (or if I
get them as I clients after such an incident).

We  use  Double-Take  as  a  pseudo-standard, as it has broad industry
support  and  works  equally  well  over the local and wide area. It's
going  to run you upwards of $3500 for one two-server cluster. Is that
low?

I'vedemoedandamintriguedbyXGForce's   eCluster
http://www.xgforce.com/news_eCluster.html,   which   has   much   more
accessible  pricing.  I plan to purchase it in place of DT for my next
rollout  and see if I can trust it. But for now, I can't vouch for it,
though if you get into it, please let me know. :)

--Sandy



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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution

2006-11-13 Thread Robert E. Spivack
If using SQL Server 2005, the new database mirroring (aka real-time log
shipping) is an excellent solution if you would rather put your $$$
into SQL Server licenses (enterprise edition required) and hardware
instead of a 3rd party app.

An advantage of using Microsoft Database Mirroring is that you can
remain on a 100% Microsoft supported solution.  Assuming a
clustered/mission-critical installation would want to insure they have
access to PSS (Microsoft product support) for any critical situations,
this could be a decisive factor over choosing a 3rd party generic
clustering or C/SFS (clustered/storage file system) solution.

I'd be curious to hear if Sandy or anyone has compared db mirroring to
double-take and other solutions that made sense before this feature was
available but may be less desirable now.


Robert E. Spivack
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 Seriously, what's low?

...I   ask  because  clustering's  ROI  is  kind  of  a  hard  target.
Unfortunately,  I  almost  always find it easier to justify clustering
solutions  for  my  clients  *after*  they  haven't  heeded an initial
clustering  suggestion  and have had outages and/or data loss (or if I
get them as I clients after such an incident).

We  use  Double-Take  as  a  pseudo-standard, as it has broad industry
support  and  works  equally  well  over the local and wide area. It's
going  to run you upwards of $3500 for one two-server cluster. Is that
low?

I'vedemoedandamintriguedbyXGForce's   eCluster
http://www.xgforce.com/news_eCluster.html,   which   has   much   more
accessible  pricing.  I plan to purchase it in place of DT for my next
rollout  and see if I can trust it. But for now, I can't vouch for it,
though if you get into it, please let me know. :)

--Sandy



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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution

2006-11-12 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Seriously, what's low?

...I   ask  because  clustering's  ROI  is  kind  of  a  hard  target.
Unfortunately,  I  almost  always find it easier to justify clustering
solutions  for  my  clients  *after*  they  haven't  heeded an initial
clustering  suggestion  and have had outages and/or data loss (or if I
get them as I clients after such an incident).

We  use  Double-Take  as  a  pseudo-standard, as it has broad industry
support  and  works  equally  well  over the local and wide area. It's
going  to run you upwards of $3500 for one two-server cluster. Is that
low?

I'vedemoedandamintriguedbyXGForce's   eCluster
http://www.xgforce.com/news_eCluster.html,   which   has   much   more
accessible  pricing.  I plan to purchase it in place of DT for my next
rollout  and see if I can trust it. But for now, I can't vouch for it,
though if you get into it, please let me know. :)

--Sandy



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