Re: [Declude.Virus] Correct me if I am wrong

2004-05-20 Thread Greg Little




You can use recip.eml to send a note that says "you were sent a virus",
but none of the the current active viruses and only about half of the
older ones have a valid sender. So, sending "an unknown person", who is
claiming to be somebody else, is infected and knows your e-mail address
is worse than useless. It generates questions and confusion.

In our business (a newspaper) we have lots of different people sending
us info, that we need. For example a school coach sending scores and
stats from a game. While we try to have them sent "plain text", we
still recieve a lot of info in Word, Excel, etc. 

IF (and it's getting rare) a Word Macro virus or signature virus like
KAK is found, then sending both sender and reciever a notice, allows
the users to know about the problem and work out a solution.

I identify about 20 virus families as forging, then if check at the top
of recip, sender and sender Postmaster for a forged sender.
Also Scott recently added an automated way to block these and not have
to update the configs with every new pest manually.
(We can get you syntax and examples, if needed)

Greg


Goran Jovanovic wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  
If a virus in an attachment is detected
then the whole message will be held and the recip.eml notification will
be sent
out.
  
  Is there a
way to allow the e-mail to go
through to the user with a notification that the attachment was
stripped? 
  
  





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Re: [Declude.Virus] Correct me if I am wrong

2004-05-20 Thread Jim Matuska



Another example of why that idea is bad is 
demonstrated by one of McAfee's mail server virus engines. I have seen 
messages forwarded my way that say our email server detected a virus you sent, 
please see attachment for details. The problem is the virus is a forging 
one the mail server sent the notification to the wrong recipient and to actually 
see the information on the virus you have to open the attachment which has the 
same name as the original virus but with an .htm extension added on ie 
virusfile.pif.html. Initially the message looks like a virus that somehow 
made it past all the scanners, but the attachment is actually a html file from 
McAfee Antivirus saying it has removed the original attachment. This is a 
fine example of why A. You should not send out notifications for forging 
viruses and B. Don't send notifications that look just like the original 
virus.

Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech IICCNANez 
Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Tolmachoff (Lists) 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:09 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Correct me 
  if I am wrong
  
  
  99.99% of virus 
  infected e-mails are bogus anyways, so why would you want to let it 
  through?
  
  Oh, the answer to 
  your question is no.
  
  
  John 
  Tolmachoff
  Engineer/Consultant/Owner
  eServices For 
  You
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, May 19, 
  2004 2:58 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.Virus] Correct me if I 
  am wrong
  
  I believe this is 
  correct.
  
  If a virus in an 
  attachment is detected then the whole message will be held and the recip.eml 
  notification will be sent out.
  
  Is there a way to 
  allow the e-mail to go through to the user with a notification that the 
  attachment was stripped? 
  
  
  
  
  Goran 
  Jovanovic
   
  The LAN 
  Shoppe
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Correct me if I am wrong

2004-05-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)








99.99% of virus infected e-mails are
bogus anyways, so why would you want to let it through?



Oh, the answer to your question is no.





John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Wednesday, May
 19, 2004 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Correct
me if I am wrong



I believe this is correct.



If a virus in an attachment is detected
then the whole message will be held and the recip.eml notification will be sent
out.



Is there a way to allow the e-mail to go
through to the user with a notification that the attachment was stripped? 









Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe










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