Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
I have written a simple app using ASP and PERL that will move the quarantined file from the virus directory back to the spool for delivery. It requires IIS to run on the same box as Imail, I run gateway servers so it is a bit easier for me. I include the spool name and a link to the gateway server that held the file in the BanNotify message, the user copies the file name and pastes it to text box on the ASP page, clicking submit sends it to the PERL script which moves the file back to the spool. I then intercept all notifications for banned files that I dont want them retreiving such as mpegs and mp3s Works great I dont mind sharing the code if anyone wants it Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Hermann Strassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages Hello! We block ZIPs and some executable extensions and want to leave it this way. Because some folks need to send them, we have to check the quarantined files (for viruses) and forward the mails without viruses manually. Is there a way to inform the user that his mail is now forwarded? Alternatively, is it possible for the user to answer to the automatic generated mail and forward the mail by himself? Is it possible somehow? I think of it as follows: User sends email with ZIP, gets a notification, answers to the notification with YES or something like that, Declude sees it and forwards this email. I think this is enough to make sure the user sends the email intentionally. Hermann --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
We do this as well using Vbscript only. It does exactly what you do. Anytime a virus is quarantined an email with a link to the file is sent to the recepient with a warning of the dangers involved in retrieving the files. We then delete everything over 5 days old to avoid getting too many files in the virus dir. We also require IIS to be running. It was written by an ISP that uses it on his shared IMAIL server. He deletes them in 2 days. = You add this to the recip.eml = If you would like a copy of the infected email please follow the link below AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! http://serverwithvirus.com:port/declude.asp?msgid=%QUEUENAME% REMEMBER IT IS AN INFECTED EMAIL. The email will be deleted in 5 days. The declude.asp file <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <% var virusdir="c:\\imail\\spool\\virus\\"; var spooldir="c:\\imail\\spool\\"; var file=""+Request.QueryString("msgid"); file=file.substr(1); fso = new ActiveXObject ("Scripting.FileSystemObject"); if (fso.FileExists(virusdir+"D"+file)) { fso.MoveFile(virusdir+"D"+file, spooldir+"D"+file); fso.MoveFile(virusdir+"Q"+file, spooldir+"Q"+file); Response.Write("Please check your e-mail in a few minutes for the virus infected message you requested."); } %> Very simple as well. Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages I have written a simple app using ASP and PERL that will move the quarantined file from the virus directory back to the spool for delivery. It requires IIS to run on the same box as Imail, I run gateway servers so it is a bit easier for me. I include the spool name and a link to the gateway server that held the file in the BanNotify message, the user copies the file name and pastes it to text box on the ASP page, clicking submit sends it to the PERL script which moves the file back to the spool. I then intercept all notifications for banned files that I dont want them retreiving such as mpegs and mp3s Works great I dont mind sharing the code if anyone wants it Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Hermann Strassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages Hello! We block ZIPs and some executable extensions and want to leave it this way. Because some folks need to send them, we have to check the quarantined files (for viruses) and forward the mails without viruses manually. Is there a way to inform the user that his mail is now forwarded? Alternatively, is it possible for the user to answer to the automatic generated mail and forward the mail by himself? Is it possible somehow? I think of it as follows: User sends email with ZIP, gets a notification, answers to the notification with YES or something like that, Declude sees it and forwards this email. I think this is enough to make sure the user sends the email intentionally. Hermann --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
> I have written a simple app using ASP and PERL that will move the > quarantined file from the virus directory back to the spool for delivery. It > requires IIS to run on the same box as Imail, I run gateway servers so it is > a bit easier for me. > > I include the spool name and a link to the gateway server that held the file > in the BanNotify message, the user copies the file name and pastes it to > text box on the ASP page, clicking submit sends it to the PERL script which > moves the file back to the spool. I would be interested. However, I would like to see 1 extra step. They would be taken to a page that would explain the possible problems that could happen should they run a malicious file and have to enter their name and e-mail address to be recoreded and hit an accept button before being taken to the page where they can then paste in the file name to retrieve. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
Doug How do you deal with IIS and IMail web servers both running on the same box and both wanting port 80? I have broken up iissocketpooling in the past but it requires 2 IP addresses to work. Is that what you have done or are you running one on a non standard port? Thanx -Original Message- From: "Douglas Cohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:28:22 To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages We do this as well using Vbscript only. It does exactly what you do. Anytime a virus is quarantined an email with a link to the file is sent to the recepient with a warning of the dangers involved in retrieving the files. We then delete everything over 5 days old to avoid getting too many files in the virus dir. We also require IIS to be running. It was written by an ISP that uses it on his shared IMAIL server. He deletes them in 2 days. = You add this to the recip.eml = If you would like a copy of the infected email please follow the link below AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! http://serverwithvirus.com:port/declude.asp?msgid=%QUEUENAME% REMEMBER IT IS AN INFECTED EMAIL. The email will be deleted in 5 days. The declude.asp file <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <% var virusdir="c:\\imail\\spool\\virus\\"; var spooldir="c:\\imail\\spool\\"; var file=""+Request.QueryString("msgid"); file=file.substr(1); fso = new ActiveXObject ("Scripting.FileSystemObject"); if (fso.FileExists(virusdir+"D"+file)) { fso.MoveFile(virusdir+"D"+file, spooldir+"D"+file); fso.MoveFile(virusdir+"Q"+file, spooldir+"Q"+file); Response.Write("Please check your e-mail in a few minutes for the virus infected message you requested."); } %> Very simple as well. Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages I have written a simple app using ASP and PERL that will move the quarantined file from the virus directory back to the spool for delivery. It requires IIS to run on the same box as Imail, I run gateway servers so it is a bit easier for me. I include the spool name and a link to the gateway server that held the file in the BanNotify message, the user copies the file name and pastes it to text box on the ASP page, clicking submit sends it to the PERL script which moves the file back to the spool. I then intercept all notifications for banned files that I dont want them retreiving such as mpegs and mp3s Works great I dont mind sharing the code if anyone wants it Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Hermann Strassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages Hello! We block ZIPs and some executable extensions and want to leave it this way. Because some folks need to send them, we have to check the quarantined files (for viruses) and forward the mails without viruses manually. Is there a way to inform the user that his mail is now forwarded? Alternatively, is it possible for the user to answer to the automatic generated mail and forward the mail by himself? Is it possible somehow? I think of it as follows: User sends email with ZIP, gets a notification, answers to the notification with YES or something like that, Declude sees it and forwards this email. I think this is enough to make sure the user sends the email intentionally. Hermann --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe O: (416) 44
Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
Great Idea! I will add that and post the files Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages > I have written a simple app using ASP and PERL that will move the > quarantined file from the virus directory back to the spool for delivery. It > requires IIS to run on the same box as Imail, I run gateway servers so it is > a bit easier for me. > > I include the spool name and a link to the gateway server that held the file > in the BanNotify message, the user copies the file name and pastes it to > text box on the ASP page, clicking submit sends it to the PERL script which > moves the file back to the spool. I would be interested. However, I would like to see 1 extra step. They would be taken to a page that would explain the possible problems that could happen should they run a malicious file and have to enter their name and e-mail address to be recoreded and hit an accept button before being taken to the page where they can then paste in the file name to retrieve. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
Remember this link is included in the recipients email. http://serverwithvirus.com:port/declude.asp?msgid=%QUEUENAME% We use Port 81. We also remove almost all access to IIS and use IIS lockdown to tighten all the way down. The way that we do this is we include the link to the infected file in the alert email. You want the Virus here it is. We explain how dangerous it is to request such a file but if the client determines that the message is urgent they have the opportunity to click once and be done. No going to other pages and pasting anything. Obviously there is the danger involved but these are grown people and the danger is to themselves. The script works as I posted. If you know Javascript you can modify it. Being used for well over a year by the original author and I have used it for months with never an issue. The obvious issue is allowing people to access infected files. That is your call whether they paste into another page and you keep track of their name or they simply click a link and get the virus sent to them. The problems can occur on their end in both cases. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages Doug How do you deal with IIS and IMail web servers both running on the same box and both wanting port 80? I have broken up iissocketpooling in the past but it requires 2 IP addresses to work. Is that what you have done or are you running one on a non standard port? Thanx -Original Message- From: "Douglas Cohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:28:22 To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages We do this as well using Vbscript only. It does exactly what you do. Anytime a virus is quarantined an email with a link to the file is sent to the recepient with a warning of the dangers involved in retrieving the files. We then delete everything over 5 days old to avoid getting too many files in the virus dir. We also require IIS to be running. It was written by an ISP that uses it on his shared IMAIL server. He deletes them in 2 days. = You add this to the recip.eml = If you would like a copy of the infected email please follow the link below AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! http://serverwithvirus.com:port/declude.asp?msgid=%QUEUENAME% REMEMBER IT IS AN INFECTED EMAIL. The email will be deleted in 5 days. The declude.asp file <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <% var virusdir="c:\\imail\\spool\\virus\\"; var spooldir="c:\\imail\\spool\\"; var file=""+Request.QueryString("msgid"); file=file.substr(1); fso = new ActiveXObject ("Scripting.FileSystemObject"); if (fso.FileExists(virusdir+"D"+file)) { fso.MoveFile(virusdir+"D"+file, spooldir+"D"+file); fso.MoveFile(virusdir+"Q"+file, spooldir+"Q"+file); Response.Write("Please check your e-mail in a few minutes for the virus infected message you requested."); } %> Very simple as well. Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages I have written a simple app using ASP and PERL that will move the quarantined file from the virus directory back to the spool for delivery. It requires IIS to run on the same box as Imail, I run gateway servers so it is a bit easier for me. I include the spool name and a link to the gateway server that held the file in the BanNotify message, the user copies the file name and pastes it to text box on the ASP page, clicking submit sends it to the PERL script which moves the file back to the spool. I then intercept all notifications for banned files that I dont want them retreiving such as mpegs and mp3s Works great I dont mind sharing the code if anyone wants it Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Hermann Strassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages Hello! We block ZIPs and some executable extensions and want to leave it this way. Because some folks need to send them, we have to check the quarantined files (for viruses) and forward the mails without viruses manually. Is there a way to inform the user that his mail is now forwarded? Alternatively, is it possible for the user to answer to the automatic generated mail and forward the mail by himself? Is it possible somehow? I think of it as follows: User sends email with ZIP, gets a notificati
Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
> The obvious issue is allowing people to access infected files. That is your > call whether they paste into another page and you keep track of their name > or they simply click a link and get the virus sent to them. The problems can > occur on their end in both cases. If you set Delete Viruses to ON, then this should only consist of banned files that are potential dangerous, but may not be virusesexcept perhaps for brand new ones, that is... Darin. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
You're right in that there are several cases, but I still disagree with allowing the sender to decide whether or not the recipient... I think the recipient should be the one to decide if they want the email. The sender should _not_ be able to force potentially harmful email through. Look at it yet another way. The sender sent the email, so obviously they want it to go through (ignoring all of the obvious spam and forging virus cases that are already handled through other means). By notifying the recipient instead of the sender, the recipient has to agree to receive it. So, we establish a trust relationship of sorts. Without sending the notification to the recipient, no trust is established and the recipient can receive emails that they do not want. As to the problem of determining the legitimacy of email, you're correct in that it is difficult to do programmatically, but in most cases a simple human inspection of the subject and sender is enough to decide if the content is legit, which the recipient can do easily. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Hermann Strassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages >--- Look at it from the perspective of one of your business email customers. Say your customer is Mom's Sauce Co. Mom's Sauce Co. has a customer, Joe's Pizza, who is trying to send them an important document that just happens to be an encrypted zip. Under your scenario, Joe's Pizza receives a bounce message and has to click a link or type something in to get the email delivered to Mom's Sauce. Now Mom's Sauce Co. really wants to sell her sauce, and wants to make it as easy as possible for Joe's Pizza to do business with them. Wouldn't Mom's Sauce Co want to handle the verification and not make Joe's Pizza have to deal with it? > And then think of Joe`s Pizza send an email with zip to Mom`s sauce co. Who should handle the verification then? The other one. In your thinking (and it is right to a certain degree) always the one who sells something should handle the verification, whether it is the sender or the recipient. But it is not possible to build this in software. We have a corporate environment, and we sell things. So we have customers and suppliers. We SHOULD do everything for our customers (if they send mail, we should do the verification, if we send mail also we should do the verification. One time the sender, one time the recipient), and we want our suppliers to do everything for us. So this is not possible to build in software. In the past some viruses slipped through the virusscanner before the signatures are updated from the companies, not only password protected zips, but as well normal zips. This forces a lot of work and money to clean the systems in house. To prevent this in future we block every archive as well as every executable extension as potentially dangerous, and we had success with this behaviour a few times. Again, the recipient can`t know if the mail is sent intentionally or if it contains a virus or otherwise dangerous code. This can only be done by the sender. If the sender gets notification, but has not sent any mail, he just deletes the notification. If he want to get his mail delivered, he verifies it. After that it is up to the recipient to open an attachement in an email, just as it is now. Hermann --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages
With my solution I filter out all Ban Notifications to my users except for EXE files by searching for the string that contains the banned file extention information. This way they cant release fun files such as mpegs, I also have DELETEVIRUSES set to ON in the virus.cfg file to make sure identified viruses cant be released. In my environment the exe files are print utilities sent with loan documents and the subject line is very precise as to what the held file is. The user does have to click a link that opens the web browser to the relavant server, then they must copy and paste the file name into a text field and click submit. These steps are reasonable for the user to think about what they are doing. Sadly enough I do get calls from users who dont know how to copy and paste, sigh, well they are the ones that we have to watch so they get verbal instruction about knowing exactly what they are releasing. The only hole in this system for me is that a remote user can release the file as well, I am in the process of restricting access by IP address to the site. I will be adding another step per John's suggestion (when I get time) to have the user input their email address, I will have it send an email notification to my ban file notify mailbox (i maintain an email history) I will probly have it check the data after the @ for allowed domains or against a list of users depending on how much time I have to spend on it. A seperate ban notification message for local and remote users would be very helpful. When I first set it up I botched the filter that grabs the notifications and recieved a call from a user who was trying to release a .pif file, she was insistant on getting that file and said "I want to see what it is" despite stating she didnt know who the sender was. I wished for a remote choking apparatis at that moment. Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Douglas Cohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages > Can someone please make something clear regarding this and Ricks solution. > > Why is the sender getting the email? > > I was under the impression (I believe incorrectly) that the recipient was > getting the opportunity to receive emails which have a virus within. > > What would a recipient need to verify to receive? An email with a Ezip > attached? > > TIA > > Doug > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hermann Strassner > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 3:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages > > It is intented not to make it to easy for the user. Otherwise some of our > users would just click and forward potentially dangerous messages without > concern. > And the sender gets the message, not the recipient. > > Hermann > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages > > > I think Rick's solution was easier for the user. They just click a link. I > know our users would hate to have to reply to an email with a specific word > to get the email...especially if they have to remember it... > > Darin. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:23 PM > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages > > > Definitely I would like to see it. > > Thanx > > > Goran Jovanovic > The LAN Shoppe > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hermann Strassner > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:46 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Notification for forwarded messages > > > > OK, this seems all a little bit to much effort. Now i made a little > .CMD > > file (W2000). > > > > The sender (or the postmaster) get the notification mail, answers to > it. > > The answer goes to a Imail program alias, this calles the .cmd and if > > the answer is correct (the user has to type in a word exactly as > written > > to make sure the mail is sent intentionally) the two files are moved > to > > the spool dir. If successful the user gets a notification mail. > > > > If someone is interested, i can send this files. > > > > Hermann > > > > -Orig