[Denemo-devel] Some glitches

2018-02-03 Thread Bric 

On February 3, 2018 at 4:32 PM Bric  wrote:  However:  I was able to apt-get all the dependencies for the git snapshot, and compile and run denemo !  Don't see any glitches at first glance, will continue to exploreSome apparent glitches:* I copied Default.shortcuts from an MS Windows into my new  ~/.denemo-2.2.1/actions directory, but they are not being read in, by the new build.* Copying over the "Default.commands" file (from Windows) causes "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"  (removing the file makes the program run again)  - i assume this is least of a glitch... or maybe not? (depending on how critical this file is - is it responsible for loading the "Default.shortcuts file, perhaps?)* Tooltip balloons behave in a quirky way, causing an extra tiny hassle trying to dismiss them.* (sub)menu tear-offs:  when I try to tear off a menu, an object editor dialog pops up, instead of the torn off menu.Getting my shortcuts to work is the most critical of the above, for me.thanks.
 

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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Bric 

On February 3, 2018 at 12:11 PM Bric  wrote:  On February 3, 2018 at 10:26 AM Richard Shann wrote:   On Sat, 2018-02-03 at 09:10 -0500, Bric wrote:On February 3, 2018 at 7:30 AM Bric wrote:[...]Just FYI - tried to do my "due diligence" and update/upgrade my Ubuntu. Did "apt-get dist-upgrade"  Result: lost network connectivity COMPLETELY. No wifi, no eithernet, no network-manager icon... complete shutout.  I had had bad experiences with upgrades before - the main reason i was reluctant to do it.That's been my experience of dist-upgrade (on Debian), I always end up having to copy my home directory back in and re-install packages. I think there's just not enough resources (memory? disk?) to do it.  RichardWell... managed to get eth0 running (manually).  Upgrading to Ubuntu 16 (I think) right now.  Came close to hosing the system.  Had to issue commands at the console with non-stop interruption by display adapter failing to initialize and retrying every 5 seconds (didn't know how to kill that), switching me away from my terminalNice Saturday morning derailment from planned activities.Hope there's a big denemo AppImage prize at the end of this.Apparent success!  (I gambled and seem to have won)I now have this OS:    Linux sofia 4.4.0-112-generic #135-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 19 11:48:36 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxAnd this runs on it: denemo-1515000238.665198a92-Build23.5.glibc2.14-x86_64.AppImage  it renders the menu improperly - the menu labels are bunched together in one continuous long "word", and i think everything else is squished horizontally.  (I can provide a screenshot)However:  I was able to apt-get all the dependencies for the git snapshot, and compile and run denemo !  Don't see any glitches at first glance, will continue to exploreThanks again, Edgar and everyone else ! ___ Denemo-devel mailing list Denemo-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel 
 

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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Bric 

On February 3, 2018 at 10:26 AM Richard Shann wrote:On Sat, 2018-02-03 at 09:10 -0500, Bric wrote:On February 3, 2018 at 7:30 AM Bric wrote:[...]Just FYI - tried to do my "due diligence" and update/upgrade myUbuntu. Did "apt-get dist-upgrade"Result: lost network connectivity COMPLETELY. No wifi, noeithernet, no network-manager icon... complete shutout.I had had bad experiences with upgrades before - the main reason iwas reluctant to do it.That's been my experience of dist-upgrade (on Debian), I always end uphaving to copy my home directory back in and re-install packages. Ithink there's just not enough resources (memory? disk?) to do it.RichardWell... managed to get eth0 running (manually).  Upgrading to Ubuntu 16 (I think) right now.  Came close to hosing the system.  Had to issue commands at the console with non-stop interruption by display adapter failing to initialize and retrying every 5 seconds (didn't know how to kill that), switching me away from my terminalNice Saturday morning derailment from planned activities.Hope there's a big denemo AppImage prize at the end of this.
 

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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Richard Shann 
On Sat, 2018-02-03 at 09:10 -0500, Bric wrote:
> > On February 3, 2018 at 7:30 AM Bric  wrote: 
> > 
> > 
[...]
> Just FYI - tried to do my "due diligence" and update/upgrade my
> Ubuntu.  Did "apt-get dist-upgrade"
> 
> Result:  lost network connectivity COMPLETELY.  No wifi, no
> eithernet, no network-manager icon... complete shutout.
> 
> I had had bad experiences with upgrades before - the main reason i
> was reluctant to do it.

That's been my experience of dist-upgrade (on Debian), I always end up
having to copy my home directory back in and re-install packages. I
think there's just not enough resources (memory? disk?) to do it.

Richard


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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Bric 

On February 3, 2018 at 7:30 AM Bric  wrote:  On February 3, 2018 at 6:58 AM Edgar Aichinger wrote:   Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2018, 11:34:15 CET schrieb Edgar Aichinger:From a bit searching I believe that your error is a different issue and comes from the fact that the Appimage is built against newer glib2 than your 14.04.1 Ubuntu...  I just changed the Appimage setup so that it builds against openSUSE leap 42.2 instead of 42.3, in the hope that it might provide an older glib2. The worker machines seem to be busy and lagging, so I can't tell when the build will complete, probably a bit later today. So if you revisit the download area and find a denemo Appimage from today try if it's any better than the previous one...  I haven't been able to get answers from IRC so far, so I plan to get in touch with Appimage main developer probono via the Appimage forum or github issue tracker.  Sorry for going slow, I hope we can resolve this soon.  EdgarJust FYI - tried to do my "due diligence" and update/upgrade my Ubuntu.  Did "apt-get dist-upgrade"Result:  lost network connectivity COMPLETELY.  No wifi, no eithernet, no network-manager icon... complete shutout.I had had bad experiences with upgrades before - the main reason i was reluctant to do it.Update: as it turns out openSUSE Leap 42.2 also is too new and provides glib2 2.48 while forrunning on Ubuntu 14.04.1 you would need a build against glib2 <=2.40, i think.  I have to leave it here for today, and cannot predict how much time I'll be able to invest during the next week, as it's school holiday and I go skiing with my kids.  Cheers, EdgarThanks, Edgar!As a kid, if my dad canceled my and his skiing trip because he decided to help drive some stranger guy from New York to Boston, for free, after giving the guy an awesome free car to make the trip himself  ... only because the guy won't drive that car himself because he hasn't renewed his driver's license... I'd start suspecting my father either hates me or needs psychiatric help.Have a happy and safe outing !   ___ Denemo-devel mailing list  Denemo-devel@gnu.org  https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel  ___ Denemo-devel mailing list Denemo-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel 
 

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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Bric 

On February 3, 2018 at 6:58 AM Edgar Aichinger wrote:Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2018, 11:34:15 CET schrieb Edgar Aichinger:From a bit searching I believe that your error is a different issue and comes from the fact that the Appimage is built against newer glib2 than your 14.04.1 Ubuntu...I just changed the Appimage setup so that it builds against openSUSE leap 42.2 instead of 42.3, in the hope that it might provide an older glib2. The worker machines seem to be busy and lagging, so I can't tell when the build will complete, probably a bit later today. So if you revisit the download area and find a denemo Appimage from today try if it's any better than the previous one...I haven't been able to get answers from IRC so far, so I plan to get in touch with Appimage main developer probono via the Appimage forum or github issue tracker.Sorry for going slow, I hope we can resolve this soon.EdgarUpdate: as it turns out openSUSE Leap 42.2 also is too new and provides glib2 2.48 while forrunning on Ubuntu 14.04.1 you would need a build against glib2 <=2.40, i think.I have to leave it here for today, and cannot predict how much time I'll be able to invest during the next week, as it's school holiday and I go skiing with my kids. Cheers, EdgarThanks, Edgar!As a kid, if my dad canceled my and his skiing trip because he decided to help drive some stranger guy from New York to Boston, for free, after giving the guy an awesome free car to make the trip himself  ... only because the guy won't drive that car himself because he hasn't renewed his driver's license... I'd start suspecting my father either hates me or needs psychiatric help.Have a happy and safe outing !___Denemo-devel mailing listDenemo-devel@gnu.orghttps://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel
 

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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Edgar Aichinger 
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2018, 11:34:15 CET schrieb Edgar Aichinger:
> From a bit searching I believe that your error is a different issue and comes 
> from the fact that the Appimage is built against newer glib2 than your 
> 14.04.1 Ubuntu...
> 
> I just changed the Appimage setup so that it builds against openSUSE leap 
> 42.2 instead of 42.3, in the hope that it might provide an older glib2. The 
> worker machines seem to be busy and lagging, so I can't tell when the build 
> will complete, probably a bit later today. So if you revisit the download 
> area and find a denemo Appimage from today try if it's any better than the 
> previous one...
> 
> I haven't been able to get answers from IRC so far, so I plan to get in touch 
> with Appimage main developer probono via the Appimage forum or github issue 
> tracker.
> 
> Sorry for going slow, I hope we can resolve this soon.
> 
> Edgar

Update: as it turns out openSUSE Leap 42.2 also is too new and provides glib2 
2.48 while forrunning on Ubuntu 14.04.1 you would need a build against glib2 
<=2.40, i think.

I have to leave it here for today, and cannot predict how much time I'll be 
able to invest during the next week, as it's school holiday and I go skiing 
with my kids. 

Cheers, Edgar




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Re: [Denemo-devel] latest linux binary?

2018-02-03 Thread Edgar Aichinger 
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 08:42:05 CET schrieb Bric:
> 
> On January 29, 2018 at 11:51 AM Edgar Aichinger  wrote: 
> 
> Just one more thing, I forgot to test the resulting Appimage before writing 
> the previous mail this morning, and now that i did test I see it doesn't 
> work...
> This is the error I'm seeing in the terminal:
> 
> 
> In case this error message helps - this is how the AppImage errors out for me 
> (on my Linux 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 
> 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux):
> 
> 
> 
> $ ./denemo-1515000238.665198a92-Build23.3.glibc2.14-x86_64.AppImage
> denemo: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0: no version information 
> available (required by /tmp/.mount_denemoI98gbi/usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.20)
> denemo: symbol lookup error: /tmp/.mount_denemoI98gbi/usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0: 
> undefined symbol: g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a

>From a bit searching I believe that your error is a different issue and comes 
>from the fact that the Appimage is built against newer glib2 than your 14.04.1 
>Ubuntu...

I just changed the Appimage setup so that it builds against openSUSE leap 42.2 
instead of 42.3, in the hope that it might provide an older glib2. The worker 
machines seem to be busy and lagging, so I can't tell when the build will 
complete, probably a bit later today. So if you revisit the download area and 
find a denemo Appimage from today try if it's any better than the previous 
one...

I haven't been able to get answers from IRC so far, so I plan to get in touch 
with Appimage main developer probono via the Appimage forum or github issue 
tracker.

Sorry for going slow, I hope we can resolve this soon.

Edgar





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Re: [Denemo-devel] series of snippets in one file?

2018-02-03 Thread Richard Shann 
On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 23:54 +0100, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> Am 02.02.2018 um 08:00 schrieb Bric:
> > is there an easy way to write multiple score snippets in one denemo
> > file, perhaps with some quick commentary text or arbitrary labels 
> > next
> > to or above each snippet?
> 
> What exactly do you mean by snippet? You can work with movements and
> create one movement per snippet. I'm not sure whether I understand
> correctly what you want, though.

Perhaps Measures->Create Gap is what you are thinking of?

Richard


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