Re: [Denemo-devel] characters in manual showing up

2019-08-26 Thread Richard Shann
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 08:58 -0400, Freeman Gilmore wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:56 AM Richard Shann  m> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 07:28 -0400, Freeman Gilmore wrote:
> > > In the manual
> > Is that the manual launched from within the program or one online?
> > 
> > >  there are  characters showing up that are not part of the script
> > in
> > > many places,   For example  e.g. looks like e. g.   Tried on
> > two
> > > computers , the same thing.     Is this a fault of my computers? 
> >  If
> > > so what can I do?
> > 
> > 
> > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=denemo.git;a=blob_plain;f=doc
> > s/denemomanual.pdf;hb=HEAD
> > 
> > 
> > is a PDF of the manual that won't have that problem I think.
> 
> No problem and i think it is better with the illustrations.   Should
> be in documents on your web site, if it is ready for prime time.

The main link on the website is missing the images, but unfortunately I
don't have access to that bit of the website machinery to fix it, but I
have put an online version at 

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=denemo.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/de
nemomanual.pdf;hb=HEAD

linked to from the Tutorials page. The manual invoked from within the
program itself (press Fn1), should have the images too. The PDF is
self-contained so travels with its own images, that's why I mentioned
it.

HTH

Richard


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Re: [Denemo-devel] characters in manual showing up

2019-08-26 Thread Freeman Gilmore
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:56 AM Richard Shann 
wrote:

> On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 07:28 -0400, Freeman Gilmore wrote:
> > In the manual
> Is that the manual launched from within the program or one online?
>
> >  there are  characters showing up that are not part of the script in
> > many places,   For example  e.g. looks like e. g.   Tried on two
> > computers , the same thing. Is this a fault of my computers?   If
> > so what can I do?
>
>
>
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=denemo.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/denemomanual.pdf;hb=HEAD
>
>
> is a PDF of the manual that won't have that problem I think.
>

No problem and i think it is better with the illustrations.   Should be in
documents on your web site, if it is ready for prime time.

Thank you,
ƒg

>
> HTH
>
> Richard
>
>
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Re: [Denemo-devel] characters in manual showing up

2019-08-26 Thread Richard Shann
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 07:28 -0400, Freeman Gilmore wrote:
> In the manual
Is that the manual launched from within the program or one online?

>  there are  characters showing up that are not part of the script in
> many places,   For example  e.g. looks like e. g.   Tried on two
> computers , the same thing.     Is this a fault of my computers?   If
> so what can I do?


http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=denemo.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/denemomanual.pdf;hb=HEAD


is a PDF of the manual that won't have that problem I think.

HTH

Richard


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[Denemo-devel] characters in manual showing up

2019-08-26 Thread Freeman Gilmore
In the manual there are  characters showing up that are not part of the
script in many places,   For example  e.g. looks like e. g.   Tried on
two computers , the same thing. Is this a fault of my computers?   If
so what can I do?

Thank you.
ƒg
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Re: [Denemo-devel] Print View behaviour (was Re: Beginner questions (cross-staff, PNG selection export, feathered beams, batch export, Print View behaviour))

2019-08-26 Thread Richard Shann
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 12:31 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > 
> > As I was looking into what would be the likely place to catch the
> > bad
> > behavior I came across the reason this is happening on Mac. It
> > would
> > seem that the Mac handles pop-up windows in a way that makes it
> > desirable to hide the other windows while the pop up holds the
> > focus.
> > Unfortunately, Denemo is unhiding the windows at the end of the pop
> > up
> > dialog without taking note if they were visible before the pop up.
> > I've fixed this now, but I can't see a way to work around the
> > problem.
> > With gdb you can change the value of one of the preferences at run
> > time
> >  with the command
> > 
> > set Denemo.prefs.hide_windows=0
> > 
> > and the Print View would not appear at the end of a dialog, however
> > the
> >  link you gave does not indicate an equivalent command to do that
> > in
> > LLDB and, in any case, you would then get whatever undesirable
> > behavior
> > the hiding of the windows was meant to fix :(
> > 
> > Richard
> 
> Thanks for investigating this.
> There is another problem, (maybe related with this?). When I insert
> a dynamic marking on a note (ff, f, etc.), all Denemo windows
> disappear and I
> need to press twice Command+TAB to see them (Denemo editing window +
> pop-up with the dynamic marking
> selection).

Yes, this is the same issue - I'm guessing that without making the
other windows hide themselves the pop-up was coming up behind the other
windows on the Mac and hence this workaround.

>  The same happens with Tempo Changes, where all the windows
> disappear every time a new pop-up appears (Select tempo, unit in
> beat,
> insert BPM, BPM printed, Allow for Layout, etc.) until the end of the
> process.
> As a suggestion, wouldn't be better to have all those options in one
> 'Tempo Change' pop-up window and not in a series of pop-ups?

absolutely, unfortunately the interface for creating more complex
windows from Scheme isn't there in Denemo :(

Richard


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Re: [Denemo-devel] Print View behaviour (was Re: Beginner questions (cross-staff, PNG selection export, feathered beams, batch export, Print View behaviour))

2019-08-26 Thread Lib Lists
>
> As I was looking into what would be the likely place to catch the bad
> behavior I came across the reason this is happening on Mac. It would
> seem that the Mac handles pop-up windows in a way that makes it
> desirable to hide the other windows while the pop up holds the focus.
> Unfortunately, Denemo is unhiding the windows at the end of the pop up
> dialog without taking note if they were visible before the pop up.
> I've fixed this now, but I can't see a way to work around the problem.
> With gdb you can change the value of one of the preferences at run time
>  with the command
>
> set Denemo.prefs.hide_windows=0
>
> and the Print View would not appear at the end of a dialog, however the
>  link you gave does not indicate an equivalent command to do that in
> LLDB and, in any case, you would then get whatever undesirable behavior
> the hiding of the windows was meant to fix :(
>
> Richard

Thanks for investigating this.
There is another problem, (maybe related with this?). When I insert
a dynamic marking on a note (ff, f, etc.), all Denemo windows disappear and I
need to press twice Command+TAB to see them (Denemo editing window +
pop-up with the dynamic marking
selection). The same happens with Tempo Changes, where all the windows
disappear every time a new pop-up appears (Select tempo, unit in beat,
insert BPM, BPM printed, Allow for Layout, etc.) until the end of the
process.
As a suggestion, wouldn't be better to have all those options in one
'Tempo Change' pop-up window and not in a series of pop-ups?

Thanks!

Lib


Lib

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