[Denemo-devel] [bug #56821] Speech program to use with Denemo

[Rain Wilber]

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 Summary: Speech program to use with Denemo
 Project: Denemo
Submitted by: rwil
Submitted on: Wed 28 Aug 2019 01:59:14 AM UTC
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Severity: 3 - Normal
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Details:

Just wanted to recommend a speech software program that I've found useful in
working with Denemo on Windows platform. The program is called 'Tazti' and it
is works quite well with keyboard shortcuts in Denemo (including the
double-keypresses).

With Linux (and Windows), there is Simon speech software, but may be a bit of
a learning curve in getting things up and running (and I had trouble getting
documentation; Although documentation comes with the download, it wasn't set
up correctly, so there would be a bit of guess-work to get things going).




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Re: [Denemo-devel] (Justified) text between title and staff and text before movement.

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 09:58 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> I've long thought it would be nice to create a pure LilyPond markup
> interactive generator for Denemo, just by cutting down that
> command...

Well, intriguingly this is possible (with one wrinkle):
In the Scheme window paste this script:

8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><

(let ((tag "ScoreMarkup")(user-input ""))
  (set! user-input (d-DirectiveGet-score-data tag))
  (if (not user-input)
  (set! user-input "Insert LilyPond markup syntax here - delete any
paragraph markers ¶ as they will display wrongly\n"))
(set! user-input  (d-GetUserInputWithSnippets #f #f user-input #f))
(disp "user-input " user-input "\n\n")
(if user-input
(let ((syntax (string-append "\\markup {\n" (string-delete #\¶ (car
user-input)) "\n}")))
  (d-SetSaved #f)
  (d-DirectivePut-score-data tag (car user-input))
  (d-DirectivePut-score-prefix tag syntax)
  (d-DirectivePut-score-display tag syntax))
(d-WarningDialog (_ "Score Markup unchanged"

8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><

When you execute this it lets you type in LilyPond markup syntax and
displays how it will look in the top pane as you type.
When you are done it puts it at the top of your score (by wrapping it
with \markup {})
The wrinkle is that the paragraph markers ¶ are still inserted and need
to be deleted, otherwise the preview shows them as new lines. 
There are commands under the Selection button for putting a selection
of your text into a line (and the lines, when selected, into a column).

This script can be made into a palette button, new command etc as
usual.

HTH

Richard





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Re: [Denemo-devel] Beginner questions (cross-staff, PNG selection export, feathered beams, batch export, Print View behaviour)

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 08:55 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > 4. As I'm writing a manual, where each movement is a separate
> > > > > exercise, I'd like at some point to batch export all the
> > > > > movements as
> > > > > individual files. Is it possible?
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean separate PDFs?
> > > 
> > > Yes, at the moment separate PDFs, but in the future it might be
> > > useful
> > > to export as well as PNGs or SVGs.
> > 
> > The following script does what you want
> > 
> > 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> > (let loop ((count (d-GetMovementsInScore)))
> >    (if (> count 0)
> > (begin
> > (d-GoToPosition count 1 1 1)
> > (d-PrintMovement)
> > (d-ExportPDF (string-append (d-GetFilename) "-Movement-"
> > (number->string count) ".pdf"))
> > (loop (1- count)
> > 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> > 
> > but if you put it in the Scheme Window and execute it what happens
> > is
> > that it keeps asking if you want to interrupt the typesetting of
> > one
> > movement to go on to the typesetting of the next, as well as
> > telling
> > you that your PDF has been created for each movement.
> > So you need to run it non-interactively - put the script into a
> > file
> > say /home/rshann/Desktop/MovementPrint.scm and then run
> > 
> > denemo -n -i "/home/rshann/Desktop/MovementPrint.scm"
> > /home/rshann/musicScores/Molter/SonataAMaj.denemo.gz
> > 
> > which loads my file
> > 
> > /home/rshann/musicScores/Molter/SonataAMaj.denemo.gz
> > 
> > and executes the Scheme in the script on it. (My file is
> > compressed,
> > hence the .gz but it doesn't need to be, any .denemo file will do.)
> 
> Hi, if I run Denemo from the terminal I get the following error.
> Also,
> I tried to run the script from the Scheme Script pop-up but nothing
> happened (I tried both pressing Enter and 'Execute Script', not sure
> if there's a difference).
Pressing Enter executes the Scheme syntax in the CLI text box (CLI =
Command Line Interface, a Scheme interpreter) while Execute executes
the Scheme syntax that has been put in the text window below.


> 
> dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/local/lib/guile18/libguile.17.dylib
>   Referenced from:
> /Applications/Denemo.app/Contents/Resources/bin/denemo
>   Reason: image not found
> Abort trap: 6

It seems that it can't find the guile library - there is an environment
variable GUILE_LOAD_PATH which may need setting - if so you could do
this in a script that calls denemo...
Why this should be happening I can't imagine (though I don't recall
which system you are on :( )

Richard







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Re: [Denemo-devel] (Justified) text between title and staff and text before movement.

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 09:04 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> What you could do is to interactively design your markup syntax that
> you want to use by invoking the command
> 
> Command: Multi-line Text and Music
> Inserts multi-line text object which can include music snippets, Fret
> Diagrams and Note Names/Chord Symbols. LilyPond Markup can be used
> and
> a preview button is available to check the syntax. 
> Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Markings ▶ Text/Symbol
> Internal Name: MultiLineTextAnnotation
> 
> This command let's you see how your markup will look as you write it.
> Once you are happy with it you would copy the markup text and paste
> it
> into the ScoreProlog command above.
> (after cancelling the creation of the multi-line text object of
> course). You could create your entire title and text system in
> LilyPond
> markup syntax, giving you the maximum flexibility. 

I should have mentioned - this command isn't ideally suited to the task
of visualizing what your markup will look like because it inserts a
paragraph marker every time you press Enter, forcing you to immediately
press Backspace to delete it, leaving just the newline you wanted. Of
course, you don't technically need new lines inside markup, but they
make it easier to read. Also, you need to surround your whole syntax
with \markup { ... }  even though the visualisation works without it.
These wrinkles are due to the fact that the MultiLineTextAnnotation
command is going to munge the syntax you give up after you have
finished, adding the surrounding \markup{...} and splitting the lines
at the paragraph markers. 
I've long thought it would be nice to create a pure LilyPond markup
interactive generator for Denemo, just by cutting down that command...

Richard

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Re: [Denemo-devel] (Justified) text between title and staff and text before movement.

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 09:07 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> Hi,
> for the manual I'm writing I'd need to write some text between a
> movement title and a staff. At the moment I'm using the 'Piece'
> field,
> but I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it.
That's a quick way to do it without looking to deeply into LilyPond's
markup syntax - but see below (*).
> 
> Also, I'd need to write an introductory text before the first
> movement. I'm using Text after Movement quite often and it's very
> handy so I'm wondering how to type some Text before the first
> Movement.

Do you mean between the Score Title and the Movement Title or before
everything?

> 
> Finally, the texts should be justified, as in the 'Markup lines'
> example here:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/text

You can use any markup commands in the various fields that built-in for
titling - e.g. using the Movements->Titles->Simple Titles->Set Titles
=>"piece" field I pasted in the text

  \justify {
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed
do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.
Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco
laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
  }
which came from that page and it arranged it justified between the
margins below the movement title.

(*) Perhaps you would be better off not using the built-in titling at
all, since you are writing more and more markup commands - the built-in 
titling is just layering a few markup commands around the text that you
give so you may better off with a clean sheet.

If you use the command
Command: LilyPond Score Prolog
Inserts LilyPond syntax for include files etc at head of score.
Location: Object Menu ▶ Score
Internal Name: ScoreProlog

to insert some markup this will appear at the top of the score
(actually, if you *do* have simple titles it will appear between the
Score title and the first Movement title).
What you could do is to interactively design your markup syntax that
you want to use by invoking the command

Command: Multi-line Text and Music
Inserts multi-line text object which can include music snippets, Fret
Diagrams and Note Names/Chord Symbols. LilyPond Markup can be used and
a preview button is available to check the syntax. 
Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Markings ▶ Text/Symbol
Internal Name: MultiLineTextAnnotation

This command let's you see how your markup will look as you write it.
Once you are happy with it you would copy the markup text and paste it
into the ScoreProlog command above.
(after cancelling the creation of the multi-line text object of
course). You could create your entire title and text system in LilyPond
markup syntax, giving you the maximum flexibility. 

It's a trade off between entering only small bits of the syntax and
having complete control.

HTH

Richard






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[Denemo-devel] (Justified) text between title and staff and text before movement.

[Lib Lists]

Hi,
for the manual I'm writing I'd need to write some text between a
movement title and a staff. At the moment I'm using the 'Piece' field,
but I'm wondering if there's a better way to do it.

Also, I'd need to write an introductory text before the first
movement. I'm using Text after Movement quite often and it's very
handy so I'm wondering how to type some Text before the first
Movement.

Finally, the texts should be justified, as in the 'Markup lines'
example here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/text

Thank you for your help,
Lib

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Re: [Denemo-devel] Beginner questions (cross-staff, PNG selection export, feathered beams, batch export, Print View behaviour)

[Lib Lists]

> > > > 4. As I'm writing a manual, where each movement is a separate
> > > > exercise, I'd like at some point to batch export all the
> > > > movements as
> > > > individual files. Is it possible?
> > >
> > > Do you mean separate PDFs?
> >
> > Yes, at the moment separate PDFs, but in the future it might be
> > useful
> > to export as well as PNGs or SVGs.
>
> The following script does what you want
>
> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> (let loop ((count (d-GetMovementsInScore)))
>(if (> count 0)
> (begin
> (d-GoToPosition count 1 1 1)
> (d-PrintMovement)
> (d-ExportPDF (string-append (d-GetFilename) "-Movement-" 
> (number->string count) ".pdf"))
> (loop (1- count)
> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
>
> but if you put it in the Scheme Window and execute it what happens is
> that it keeps asking if you want to interrupt the typesetting of one
> movement to go on to the typesetting of the next, as well as telling
> you that your PDF has been created for each movement.
> So you need to run it non-interactively - put the script into a file
> say /home/rshann/Desktop/MovementPrint.scm and then run
>
> denemo -n -i "/home/rshann/Desktop/MovementPrint.scm" 
> /home/rshann/musicScores/Molter/SonataAMaj.denemo.gz
>
> which loads my file
>
> /home/rshann/musicScores/Molter/SonataAMaj.denemo.gz
>
> and executes the Scheme in the script on it. (My file is compressed,
> hence the .gz but it doesn't need to be, any .denemo file will do.)

Hi, if I run Denemo from the terminal I get the following error. Also,
I tried to run the script from the Scheme Script pop-up but nothing
happened (I tried both pressing Enter and 'Execute Script', not sure
if there's a difference).

dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/local/lib/guile18/libguile.17.dylib
  Referenced from: /Applications/Denemo.app/Contents/Resources/bin/denemo
  Reason: image not found
Abort trap: 6

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