Re: About Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu. was Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-11-25 Thread Robert Lewis
On Thursday, November 25, 2021 8:34:15 A.M. AST Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 15:20 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 31, 2021 2:14:20 P.M. ADT Richard Shann wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 16:49 +, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > Well my upgrade to Debian stable has worked, and I have built
> > > > Denemo
> > > > from sources using the atril.patch and without installing the
> > > > libevince-dev package, installing instead libatrilview-dev and
> > > > libatrildocument-dev (I don't know if this last one was required,
> > > > I
> > > > didn't try without).
> > > > The good(ish) news is that the following of links from the Print
> > > > View
> > > > back to the Denemo Display works, so re-positioning things like
> > > > trill
> > > > signs can be done via dragging in the Print View.
> > > > My next experiment (after checking more things with this atril
> > > > build)
> > > > is to install from the Debian repository see if the tweaking
> > > > fails
> > > > and
> > > > also see if the Icon appears in the Applications menu - in this
> > > > respect
> > > > I can mention that installing the evolution package failed to put
> > > > an
> > > > icon in the application menu, which is pretty extraordinary.
> > > > Then I'll at last be able to test if the inability to tweak
> > > > objects
> > > > is
> > > > due to libevince changes...
> > > 
> > > So I have tested the 2.5.4 built with atril and everything is
> > > working.
> > > I've installed the Debian package, it has placed the icon in the
> > > applications directory (MATE desktop) and I can confirm that the
> > > links
> > > from Print View are not working (strangely links from source pdfs
> > > are
> > > working).
> 
> this was a spurious observation on my part - the links from source pdfs
> do not involved libevince handling a signal, unlike those from Print
> View.
> 
> > >  So the finger of suspicion still points to libevince. I'll
> > > 
> > > build against that next.
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > 
> > Thanks for the update.  I'll be happy to test whenever you're ready.
> 
> I've just noticed that this thread has been left hanging, sorry. I
> installed libevince-dev and the links from Print View were broken.
> So the fix at the moment is to build against libatril-dev.
> Unfortunately Denemo's configure file doesn't give an option to force
> the build to use libatril, it will only use it if libevince is absent,
> so that has to be uninstalled before building.
> 
> Richard

Using the 25 November version 2.5.7, I did as you recommended; I uninstalled  
libevince-dev and installed  libatril-dev.  I can confirm that the links are 
showing in the Print View window and that the items in the right-click context 
menu work on an object. 

Thanks, Richard.

Robert






Re: About Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu. was Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-11-25 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 15:20 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 2:14:20 P.M. ADT Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 16:49 +, Richard Shann wrote:
> > > Well my upgrade to Debian stable has worked, and I have built
> > > Denemo
> > > from sources using the atril.patch and without installing the
> > > libevince-dev package, installing instead libatrilview-dev and
> > > libatrildocument-dev (I don't know if this last one was required,
> > > I
> > > didn't try without). 
> > > The good(ish) news is that the following of links from the Print
> > > View
> > > back to the Denemo Display works, so re-positioning things like
> > > trill
> > > signs can be done via dragging in the Print View.
> > > My next experiment (after checking more things with this atril
> > > build)
> > > is to install from the Debian repository see if the tweaking
> > > fails
> > > and
> > > also see if the Icon appears in the Applications menu - in this
> > > respect
> > > I can mention that installing the evolution package failed to put
> > > an
> > > icon in the application menu, which is pretty extraordinary.
> > > Then I'll at last be able to test if the inability to tweak
> > > objects
> > > is
> > > due to libevince changes...
> > 
> > So I have tested the 2.5.4 built with atril and everything is
> > working.
> > I've installed the Debian package, it has placed the icon in the
> > applications directory (MATE desktop) and I can confirm that the
> > links
> > from Print View are not working (strangely links from source pdfs
> > are
> > working).
this was a spurious observation on my part - the links from source pdfs
do not involved libevince handling a signal, unlike those from Print
View.
> >  So the finger of suspicion still points to libevince. I'll
> > build against that next.
> > 
> > Richard
> 
> Thanks for the update.  I'll be happy to test whenever you're ready.

I've just noticed that this thread has been left hanging, sorry. I
installed libevince-dev and the links from Print View were broken.
So the fix at the moment is to build against libatril-dev.
Unfortunately Denemo's configure file doesn't give an option to force
the build to use libatril, it will only use it if libevince is absent,
so that has to be uninstalled before building.

Richard








Re: About Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu. was Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-31 Thread Robert Lewis
On Sunday, October 31, 2021 2:14:20 P.M. ADT Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 16:49 +, Richard Shann wrote:
> > Well my upgrade to Debian stable has worked, and I have built Denemo
> > from sources using the atril.patch and without installing the
> > libevince-dev package, installing instead libatrilview-dev and
> > libatrildocument-dev (I don't know if this last one was required, I
> > didn't try without). 
> > The good(ish) news is that the following of links from the Print View
> > back to the Denemo Display works, so re-positioning things like trill
> > signs can be done via dragging in the Print View.
> > My next experiment (after checking more things with this atril build)
> > is to install from the Debian repository see if the tweaking fails
> > and
> > also see if the Icon appears in the Applications menu - in this
> > respect
> > I can mention that installing the evolution package failed to put an
> > icon in the application menu, which is pretty extraordinary.
> > Then I'll at last be able to test if the inability to tweak objects
> > is
> > due to libevince changes...
> 
> So I have tested the 2.5.4 built with atril and everything is working.
> I've installed the Debian package, it has placed the icon in the
> applications directory (MATE desktop) and I can confirm that the links
> from Print View are not working (strangely links from source pdfs are
> working). So the finger of suspicion still points to libevince. I'll
> build against that next.
> 
> Richard

Thanks for the update.  I'll be happy to test whenever you're ready.

Robert





About Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu. was Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-31 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 17:28 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 13:37, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 13:13 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 13:01, Richard Shann
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 10:17 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a
> > > > > Denemo
> > > > > launcher in the application menu
> > > > 
> > > > Thinking about it, you presumably mean the application menu of
> > > > the
> > > > Mac
> > > > O/S desktop rather than some virtual desktop created by the
> > > > VirtualBox
> > > > software? In which case this would hinge on the desktop.ini
> > > > conventions
> > > > that the Virtual Box software is working to.
> > > 
> > > Hi, no, I mean the application menu of the Linux OS in which I'm
> > > currently running Denemo.
> > ah, ok, a virtual desktop. I may know more about this shortly as
> > I'm
> > about to upgrade to Debian stable...

Well my upgrade to Debian stable has worked, and I have built Denemo
from sources using the atril.patch and without installing the
libevince-dev package, installing instead libatrilview-dev and
libatrildocument-dev (I don't know if this last one was required, I
didn't try without). 
The good(ish) news is that the following of links from the Print View
back to the Denemo Display works, so re-positioning things like trill
signs can be done via dragging in the Print View.
My next experiment (after checking more things with this atril build)
is to install from the Debian repository see if the tweaking fails and
also see if the Icon appears in the Applications menu - in this respect
I can mention that installing the evolution package failed to put an
icon in the application menu, which is pretty extraordinary.
Then I'll at last be able to test if the inability to tweak objects is
due to libevince changes...

Richard









Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu

2021-10-31 Thread Lib Lists
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 13:37, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 13:13 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 13:01, Richard Shann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 10:17 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a Denemo
> > > > launcher in the application menu
> > >
> > > Thinking about it, you presumably mean the application menu of the
> > > Mac
> > > O/S desktop rather than some virtual desktop created by the
> > > VirtualBox
> > > software? In which case this would hinge on the desktop.ini
> > > conventions
> > > that the Virtual Box software is working to.
> >
> > Hi, no, I mean the application menu of the Linux OS in which I'm
> > currently running Denemo.
> ah, ok, a virtual desktop. I may know more about this shortly as I'm
> about to upgrade to Debian stable...

Great, thank you so much once again.
Cheers,
Lib

>
> Richard
>
>



Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu

2021-10-31 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 13:13 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 13:01, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 10:17 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a Denemo
> > > launcher in the application menu
> > 
> > Thinking about it, you presumably mean the application menu of the
> > Mac
> > O/S desktop rather than some virtual desktop created by the
> > VirtualBox
> > software? In which case this would hinge on the desktop.ini
> > conventions
> > that the Virtual Box software is working to.
> 
> Hi, no, I mean the application menu of the Linux OS in which I'm
> currently running Denemo.
ah, ok, a virtual desktop. I may know more about this shortly as I'm
about to upgrade to Debian stable...

Richard





Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu

2021-10-31 Thread Lib Lists
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 13:01, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 10:17 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a Denemo
> > launcher in the application menu
>
> Thinking about it, you presumably mean the application menu of the Mac
> O/S desktop rather than some virtual desktop created by the VirtualBox
> software? In which case this would hinge on the desktop.ini conventions
> that the Virtual Box software is working to.

Hi, no, I mean the application menu of the Linux OS in which I'm
currently running Denemo.
At the moment I'm not using Denemo under MacOS.
Lib

>
> Richard
>
>



Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu

2021-10-31 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 10:17 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> Hello,
> I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a Denemo
> launcher in the application menu 

Thinking about it, you presumably mean the application menu of the Mac
O/S desktop rather than some virtual desktop created by the VirtualBox
software? In which case this would hinge on the desktop.ini conventions
that the Virtual Box software is working to.

Richard





Re: Denemo icon missing in application menu

2021-10-31 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2021-10-31 at 10:17 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> Hello,
> I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a Denemo
> launcher in the application menu was created.

I noticed that I have an icon in the application menu (Mate desktop)
which launched version 2.5.0
I did a make install on the latest version and it installed denemo at
/usr/local/bin/denemo
but the icon in the application menu continued to launch 2.5.0 (from
where I'm not at all sure (*), I can't see any obvious way of
interrogating Mate to find out what that icon is linking to).

We did have some work on icon location recently for the flatpak version
of Denemo - perhaps someone more familiar with these desktop issues can
suggest something.

Richard

(*) When I try to find out by asking to open a standard template the
file chooser opens in a directory called "app" which pretends to be a
directory in the root directory, but is not actually present there...
some gtk idiocy I suppose.

>  However (see attached
> screenshot) it doesn't display Denemo's icon.
> Not a big issue, but it would be nicer to have Denemo's icon there,
> if possible.
> I'm using Lubuntu 20.04 and the desktop environment is LXQt 0.14.1
> I'm not really familiar with Linux (I'm using it only with Denemo) so
> apologies for the possibly trivial question.
> Thank you,
> Lib



Denemo icon missing in application menu

2021-10-31 Thread Lib Lists
Hello,
I compiled and installed (sudo make install) Denemo, and a Denemo
launcher in the application menu was created. However (see attached
screenshot) it doesn't display Denemo's icon.
Not a big issue, but it would be nicer to have Denemo's icon there, if possible.
I'm using Lubuntu 20.04 and the desktop environment is LXQt 0.14.1
I'm not really familiar with Linux (I'm using it only with Denemo) so
apologies for the possibly trivial question.
Thank you,
Lib