Re: Re: Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew McIntyre

On 6/30/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Rick's plan looks good to me as long as the license is resolved -- and
it looks like it will be (with time to spare) given Lance's
clarification of the mid July target in
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Revised-10.2-plan-for-uncoupling-the-Mustang-and-Derby-release-trains-p5125470.html


Hadn't seen it mentioned on the list yet, but I checked and the
JSR-221 spec license now includes the language about marking
applications written to the specification with a notice. The language
is much clearer than the previous spec license. Thanks, Lance!

It's probably a good idea to add the notice required in the new spec
license to this page:

http://www.multinet.no/~solberg/public/Apache/DerbyJDK16/builds/

andrew


Re: Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-06-30 Thread David Van Couvering
This looks good to me, +1.  Thanks to everyone for their hard work on 
resolving this.


David

Rick Hillegas wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and patience. After discussing 
the JCP issues with many people, including Geir Magnusson and Lance 
Andersen, I would like to propose the following approach for uncoupling 
the Mustang and Derby release trains.


1) Lance will publish his proposed final draft (PFD) of the JDBC4 spec 
under the "early access" license.


2) In mid-September the Derby community will vet and publish a GA 10.2 
release which implements PFD apis.


3) The Apache web page describing 10.2 will start out saying that Derby 
drivers implement PFD apis.


4) If no relevant changes are made to the PFD by the time Mustang goes 
GA, then at the end of October we will update the Apache web page so 
that it says Derby drivers implement final JDBC4 apis.


5) If, however, the final draft changes in some way which affects Derby, 
then we will implement those changes in a follow-on bugfix release at a 
time convenient to the community.


Here again is the refined 10.2 release schedule which has attracted 
consensus:


August 10 : Last feature work committed. Branch created.
August 11 : First release candidate generated.
August 24 : Second release candidate generated.
September 7: Third and hopefully last release candidate generated.
September 15: Targetted end of voting on release candidates.

I hope we are converging on an acceptable plan. Thanks again for your 
patience.


Regards,
-Rick





Re: Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-06-30 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Rick's plan looks good to me as long as the license is resolved -- and
it looks like it will be (with time to spare) given Lance's
clarification of the mid July target in
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Revised-10.2-plan-for-uncoupling-the-Mustang-and-Derby-release-trains-p5125470.html

 -jean

Rick Hillegas wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and patience. After discussing
> the JCP issues with many people, including Geir Magnusson and Lance
> Andersen, I would like to propose the following approach for uncoupling
> the Mustang and Derby release trains.
> 
> 1) Lance will publish his proposed final draft (PFD) of the JDBC4 spec
> under the "early access" license.
> 
> 2) In mid-September the Derby community will vet and publish a GA 10.2
> release which implements PFD apis.
> 
> 3) The Apache web page describing 10.2 will start out saying that Derby
> drivers implement PFD apis.
> 
> 4) If no relevant changes are made to the PFD by the time Mustang goes
> GA, then at the end of October we will update the Apache web page so
> that it says Derby drivers implement final JDBC4 apis.
> 
> 5) If, however, the final draft changes in some way which affects Derby,
> then we will implement those changes in a follow-on bugfix release at a
> time convenient to the community.
> 
> Here again is the refined 10.2 release schedule which has attracted
> consensus:
> 
> August 10 : Last feature work committed. Branch created.
> August 11 : First release candidate generated.
> August 24 : Second release candidate generated.
> September 7: Third and hopefully last release candidate generated.
> September 15: Targetted end of voting on release candidates.
> 
> I hope we are converging on an acceptable plan. Thanks again for your
> patience.



Re: Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-06-30 Thread Lance J. Andersen

July towards the middle (after the Sun shutdown)

Andrew McIntyre wrote:

On 6/30/06, Rick Hillegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


1) Lance will publish his proposed final draft (PFD) of the JDBC4 spec
under the "early access" license.


Is there a rough time frame for this, considering it's the gating
factor for getting the release train rolling? Is it safe to assume
that this will happen before August 11? Or is there a chance that the
generation of the first release candidate may be later than August 11
if the PFD is not posted by then?

+1 to the rest.

andrew


Re: Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Andrew McIntyre wrote:

> On 6/30/06, Rick Hillegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> 1) Lance will publish his proposed final draft (PFD) of the JDBC4 spec
>> under the "early access" license.
> 
> 
> Is there a rough time frame for this, considering it's the gating
> factor for getting the release train rolling? Is it safe to assume
> that this will happen before August 11? Or is there a chance that the
> generation of the first release candidate may be later than August 11
> if the PFD is not posted by then?

If the licence is not ready then we can have a release candiate that is
marked alpha/beta, and thus would be an alpha/beta release if the vote
passed. This probably would be the plan if the licencing change did not
happen and Derby's GA was delayed until after Mustang.

Dan.



Re: Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-06-30 Thread Andrew McIntyre

On 6/30/06, Rick Hillegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


1) Lance will publish his proposed final draft (PFD) of the JDBC4 spec
under the "early access" license.


Is there a rough time frame for this, considering it's the gating
factor for getting the release train rolling? Is it safe to assume
that this will happen before August 11? Or is there a chance that the
generation of the first release candidate may be later than August 11
if the PFD is not posted by then?

+1 to the rest.

andrew


Revised 10.2 plan for uncoupling the Mustang and Derby release trains

2006-06-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and patience. After discussing 
the JCP issues with many people, including Geir Magnusson and Lance 
Andersen, I would like to propose the following approach for uncoupling 
the Mustang and Derby release trains.


1) Lance will publish his proposed final draft (PFD) of the JDBC4 spec 
under the "early access" license.


2) In mid-September the Derby community will vet and publish a GA 10.2 
release which implements PFD apis.


3) The Apache web page describing 10.2 will start out saying that Derby 
drivers implement PFD apis.


4) If no relevant changes are made to the PFD by the time Mustang goes 
GA, then at the end of October we will update the Apache web page so 
that it says Derby drivers implement final JDBC4 apis.


5) If, however, the final draft changes in some way which affects Derby, 
then we will implement those changes in a follow-on bugfix release at a 
time convenient to the community.


Here again is the refined 10.2 release schedule which has attracted 
consensus:


August 10 : Last feature work committed. Branch created.
August 11 : First release candidate generated.
August 24 : Second release candidate generated.
September 7: Third and hopefully last release candidate generated.
September 15: Targetted end of voting on release candidates.

I hope we are converging on an acceptable plan. Thanks again for your 
patience.


Regards,
-Rick