[libreoffice-design] Re: Packaging idea for LibreOffice software

[Marc Paré]

Le 2011-07-09 14:24, Nik a écrit :

Hi all,

I've been buried under research for the last few months and I've just
returned to see that I'm buried under hundreds of Emails to get through.
While I'll work through them in the next few days to catch up, there was
something I wanted to show you guys before I left, but didn't...

It is a packaging idea for people who distribute LibO on CD/DVD.
Granted, it's not going to be everyone's idea of "practical" or
"professional" but it does demonstrate a valuable link to our values and
gives us a chance to really stand out.
Why?
Because the package is made entirely from paper.

A4 paper and A3 paper, folded in on itself, to hide the edges and in a
way that makes the packaging both a brochure, and a case.
It fits two Discs neatly, can be printed on any printer (bleed is
accounted for).
It does not require any glueing or cutting (true to the values of
Origami, from which it is inspired).
If printed on 100% recycled paper (as intended) it would show our
commitment to sustainability. More than traditional PVC cases at least.
Above all else, it is actually just very nice to hold. Many people I
gave it to said it reminded them of old 5.25inch floppy disks from "back
in the day".

Intrigued?...
http://liberated.nikashsingh.org/html/papercase.html

This might be more of an idea that sits well with us tree-hugging
student-types, but I just thought it might be worth sharing.
If you guys think it's worth exploring, I can upload the template so you
can print one and fold it for yourself.
It really has to be held to be appreciated I think.

And it may be the best existing indication of how I imagine our
"branding language" could look and feel.
Simple, clean, honest, pure and vibrant.

-Nik


Bernhard, Christoph, I'm really off-tempo here, if there is anything I
should work on immediately (while I have this break) or anything I left
unfinished please let me know.



Great idea! I would also use it. I can also see it printed on card stock 
to make it more rigid.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-design] The future of design suggestions

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi all,

I don't have enough time, so anybody step in...

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

[...]

Moved the page to the Design area:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/UI_Elements

and added the Design category.

Please play with the page, add your ideas, categorize and sort them, so
we can discuss the next steps based on some examples.


... replace my example "vertical tabs" with real data - there have been 
several mockups mentioned here on the list containing this element.


... start a new thread pointing everybody to this new wiki page (at the 
moment buried in the deepest area of a thread on much more topics than 
just this one).


... link to the page from different areas in the wiki (whiteboard?, 
design kick-off?, "how to contribute" page - needs to be worked on too)


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Packaging idea for LibreOffice software

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Nik, all,

Nik schrieb:

Hi all,

I've been buried under research for the last few months and I've just
returned to see that I'm buried under hundreds of Emails to get through.
While I'll work through them in the next few days to catch up, there was
something I wanted to show you guys before I left, but didn't...

It is a packaging idea for people who distribute LibO on CD/DVD.
[...]
http://liberated.nikashsingh.org/html/papercase.html


Just great!

Thanks a lot!


And it may be the best existing indication of how I imagine our
"branding language" could look and feel.
Simple, clean, honest, pure and vibrant.


+1


-Nik


Bernhard, Christoph, I'm really off-tempo here, if there is anything I
should work on immediately (while I have this break) or anything I left
unfinished please let me know.


It would be great if you could contribute to the new download page 
Christoph prepared:

http://go.mail-archive.com/MMFitVgxxIb8J1es2D87zpuWImg=

The discussion takes place on the website list, but no action seems to 
be taken in the meantime.


I started a new wiki page for UI element proposals, trying to integrate 
different mockups by looking and discussion the single elements:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/UI_Elements

There are some other threads active at the moment, but you'll find your 
way through the masses of mails...


Best regards
and welcome back

Bernhard






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Re: [libreoffice-design] Specifications for present UI and Graphics (was: Design Tenets Proposal)

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Rafael, all

just taking a very small part of your mail to reply, because this is a 
different topic that shouldn't be hidden at the end of a long mail.

Rafael Rocha Daud schrieb:

[...]

Talking of what, who do we need to talk to to get some directions on the
capabilities of our current graphical libraries? Is there a
specification, and someone who might be able to explain it if I get
stuck? I want to continue working in the Styles and Formatting window,
but I don't know what graphical elements I can throw in, explore etc.


The best one to reply here is Christoph - but let him some time to reply 
as he is in parental leave (even if he is more and more active again...)


As the UI is nearly unchanged from the OOo UI, you should have a look at 
the OpenOffice.org specifications. I found this index:


http://specs.openoffice.org/ui_in_general/index.html

Don't know if it is helpful at the moment.

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Packaging idea for LibreOffice software

[Christopher Lee]

That also makes community distribution much easier.  If the CDs could be
easily made too, it would be even better.  But this looks fantastic and very
attractive-- I'd certainly use it.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Nik  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been buried under research for the last few months and I've just
> returned to see that I'm buried under hundreds of Emails to get through.
> While I'll work through them in the next few days to catch up, there was
> something I wanted to show you guys before I left, but didn't...
>
> It is a packaging idea for people who distribute LibO on CD/DVD.
> Granted, it's not going to be everyone's idea of "practical" or
> "professional" but it does demonstrate a valuable link to our values and
> gives us a chance to really stand out.
> Why?
> Because the package is made entirely from paper.
>
> A4 paper and A3 paper, folded in on itself, to hide the edges and in a way
> that makes the packaging both a brochure, and a case.
> It fits two Discs neatly, can be printed on any printer (bleed is accounted
> for).
> It does not require any glueing or cutting (true to the values of Origami,
> from which it is inspired).
> If printed on 100% recycled paper (as intended) it would show our
> commitment to sustainability. More than traditional PVC cases at least.
> Above all else, it is actually just very nice to hold. Many people I gave
> it to said it reminded them of old 5.25inch floppy disks from "back in the
> day".
>
> Intrigued?...
> http://liberated.nikashsingh.**org/html/papercase.html
>
> This might be more of an idea that sits well with us tree-hugging
> student-types, but I just thought it might be worth sharing.
> If you guys think it's worth exploring, I can upload the template so you
> can print one and fold it for yourself.
> It really has to be held to be appreciated I think.
>
> And it may be the best existing indication of how I imagine our "branding
> language" could look and feel.
> Simple, clean, honest, pure and vibrant.
>
> -Nik
>
>
> Bernhard, Christoph, I'm really off-tempo here, if there is anything I
> should work on immediately (while I have this break) or anything I left
> unfinished please let me know.
>
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[libreoffice-design] Packaging idea for LibreOffice software

[Nik]

Hi all,

I've been buried under research for the last few months and I've just 
returned to see that I'm buried under hundreds of Emails to get through.
While I'll work through them in the next few days to catch up, there was 
something I wanted to show you guys before I left, but didn't...


It is a packaging idea for people who distribute LibO on CD/DVD.
Granted, it's not going to be everyone's idea of "practical" or 
"professional" but it does demonstrate a valuable link to our values and 
gives us a chance to really stand out.

Why?
Because the package is made entirely from paper.

A4 paper and A3 paper, folded in on itself, to hide the edges and in a 
way that makes the packaging both a brochure, and a case.
It fits two Discs neatly, can be printed on any printer (bleed is 
accounted for).
It does not require any glueing or cutting (true to the values of 
Origami, from which it is inspired).
If printed on 100% recycled paper (as intended) it would show our 
commitment to sustainability. More than traditional PVC cases at least.
Above all else, it is actually just very nice to hold. Many people I 
gave it to said it reminded them of old 5.25inch floppy disks from "back 
in the day".


Intrigued?...
http://liberated.nikashsingh.org/html/papercase.html

This might be more of an idea that sits well with us tree-hugging 
student-types, but I just thought it might be worth sharing.
If you guys think it's worth exploring, I can upload the template so you 
can print one and fold it for yourself.

It really has to be held to be appreciated I think.

And it may be the best existing indication of how I imagine our 
"branding language" could look and feel.

Simple, clean, honest, pure and vibrant.

-Nik


Bernhard, Christoph, I'm really off-tempo here, if there is anything I 
should work on immediately (while I have this break) or anything I left 
unfinished please let me know.


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Re: [libreoffice-design] [Vote] Consistent theme for screenshots

[Vamsi Kodali]

On 07/07/2011 04:23 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi all,

there have been lots of mail in this thread [1] about the advantages 
and disadvantaged of a recommendation for a consistent theme for 
screenshots covering documentation screenshots as well as marketing 
screenshots.


During the discussion several people agreed on a proposal by Jean 
compromising between readability on greylevel printing and branding 
language compliance in colored online doc versions or marketing material.


It is based on the Clearlooks theme (on GNOME, ports to KDE and 
Windows XP available too) with a definite font with weight and size 
(Liberation bold 11 pt for window titles) and adds a LibreOffice 
palette color (Libre Green 2) for highlighted areas like windows headers.


If you want to establish a recommendation to use this modified theme 
for screenshots, please add "+1" here:

-1
Others want to propose a broad variety of different themes on 
screenshots in order to show the diversity of LibreOffice and it's 
possibility to be installed on different platforms in the 
documentation screenshots.


They fear that new contributors might turn away when they find out, 
that there is a recommendation how to create screenshots for 
documentation and marketing.


If you prefer a way without caring about recommendations, just 
creating the screenshots you like, please add your "+1" here:
+1. I think we should follow the default themes for Windows and Mac OS X 
where the one unified theme for all Linux distros.



A second question has been raised by Marc inside the thread:
He asked for a unified cursor style to be included in thee package.

His proposal: Use a standardized cursor theme like "OpenZone white" 
for the screenshots and include this cursor in the theme for the colors.


If you agree with him on the cursor/pointers, please sign here for a 
second time with "+1":
-1. I think we can take screenshots without any cursors. Even if we end 
up deciding to have cursors, I vote for following default OS theme 
cursors (see my other vote above)


On the other hand I think that most platforms provide similar pointers 
and cursors, so this part doesn't need to be included in this voting. 
I'd propose a more inclusive wiki page including a recommendation to 
use a consistent cursor. "-1"


So you have two votes - I hope you understand what I mean...

Best regards

Bernhard



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RE: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages

[nick rundy]

Just a comment: Word 2010 still has this "merge page ends" capability. I'm not 
understanding what you mean when you said "Microsoft changed the behavior from 
2003 to 2007 and made this feature 'more hidden.'"

> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages
> From: christ...@dogmatux.com
> To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:39:37 +0200
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> just a short comment, since I once analyzed some of the today available
> views in Writer (during the OOo UX times). I think that the enhancement
> request is just a "half-way" solution that just adds some more
> complexity to Writer without solving the real issue.
> 
> For example, even Microsoft changed the behavior from 2003 to 2007 and
> made this feature "more hidden". I assume they wanted to completely
> remove it, but feared the feedback by the existing user base.
> 
> My take: The enhancement request should target a real "Draft" view,
> which considers page breaks and the width of the real pages without
> showing the borders etc. This would also solve a lot of other issues in
> this area ... not only one. But, this is really tough work - I omit all
> the details, but I talked with one of the Devs during the FOSDEM and I
> got some introduction in the internal issues of the Writer structure
> (there, we talked about an outline view).
> 
> Do you agree somehow? If yes, I'd like to rewrite the enhancement
> request.
> 
> Cheers,
> Christoph
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, den 08.07.2011, 17:26 -0400 schrieb nick rundy:
> > thanks Sigrid
> > here's my enhancement request:  
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39080
> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:05:17 +0200
> > > From: sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com
> > > To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages
> > > 
> > > Hi Nick, 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:46:03 -0400
> > > nick rundy  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > can you please provide the link to the bugzilla specific site that 
> > > > deals with LibreOffice? I will create my own bug. Thanks
> > > 
> > > Sure, you'll find bugzilla here: 
> > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
> > > 
> > > You need to select LibreOffice as product. This bugzilla is shared 
> > > between many different projects. 
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > > Sigrid
> > > 
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RE: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages

[nick rundy]

If I understand you correctly, you are proposing to keep "Print Layout" how it 
is and instead add a new view-layout called "Draft Layout." And this "Draft 
Layout" would merge the ends and beginnings of pages together like the pic I 
uploaded to imgur illustrates?
If I understand this correctly, the "Draft Layout" sounds like a great 
solution. But I would kindly suggest adding a setting that lets users set 
"Draft Layout" as the default layout that Writer displays when it is opened. So 
when I open Writer to begin a document, "Draft Layout" is the view that is 
selected by default. I would have to manually change it if I wanted "Print 
Layout" or "Web Layout". Does this make sense?

> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages
> From: christ...@dogmatux.com
> To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:39:37 +0200
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> just a short comment, since I once analyzed some of the today available
> views in Writer (during the OOo UX times). I think that the enhancement
> request is just a "half-way" solution that just adds some more
> complexity to Writer without solving the real issue.
> 
> For example, even Microsoft changed the behavior from 2003 to 2007 and
> made this feature "more hidden". I assume they wanted to completely
> remove it, but feared the feedback by the existing user base.
> 
> My take: The enhancement request should target a real "Draft" view,
> which considers page breaks and the width of the real pages without
> showing the borders etc. This would also solve a lot of other issues in
> this area ... not only one. But, this is really tough work - I omit all
> the details, but I talked with one of the Devs during the FOSDEM and I
> got some introduction in the internal issues of the Writer structure
> (there, we talked about an outline view).
> 
> Do you agree somehow? If yes, I'd like to rewrite the enhancement
> request.
> 
> Cheers,
> Christoph
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, den 08.07.2011, 17:26 -0400 schrieb nick rundy:
> > thanks Sigrid
> > here's my enhancement request:  
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39080
> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:05:17 +0200
> > > From: sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com
> > > To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages
> > > 
> > > Hi Nick, 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:46:03 -0400
> > > nick rundy  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > can you please provide the link to the bugzilla specific site that 
> > > > deals with LibreOffice? I will create my own bug. Thanks
> > > 
> > > Sure, you'll find bugzilla here: 
> > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
> > > 
> > > You need to select LibreOffice as product. This bugzilla is shared 
> > > between many different projects. 
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > > Sigrid
> > > 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Icons

[Christoph Noack]

Hi Andrew!

Great that you like the LibO icons ... concerning the remaining once, my
answer might be not that helpful, since I'm not an expert when it comes
to our source code repository. There, you find all the (default) icons
being based on the Tango theme.

Web access is available here:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/artwork/

But how to extract them - don't know. Maybe the Tango theme page is
better suited for your needs:
http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project

Hope this helps :-)

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Freitag, den 08.07.2011, 15:39 -0400 schrieb Andrew Pullins:
> How would I get all of the icons for LibreOffice. I mean all of them, save,
> undo, format paintbrush, and all the rest of them. Not just the cool
> LibreOffice ones.
> 



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RE: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages

[Christoph Noack]

Hi all,

just a short comment, since I once analyzed some of the today available
views in Writer (during the OOo UX times). I think that the enhancement
request is just a "half-way" solution that just adds some more
complexity to Writer without solving the real issue.

For example, even Microsoft changed the behavior from 2003 to 2007 and
made this feature "more hidden". I assume they wanted to completely
remove it, but feared the feedback by the existing user base.

My take: The enhancement request should target a real "Draft" view,
which considers page breaks and the width of the real pages without
showing the borders etc. This would also solve a lot of other issues in
this area ... not only one. But, this is really tough work - I omit all
the details, but I talked with one of the Devs during the FOSDEM and I
got some introduction in the internal issues of the Writer structure
(there, we talked about an outline view).

Do you agree somehow? If yes, I'd like to rewrite the enhancement
request.

Cheers,
Christoph


Am Freitag, den 08.07.2011, 17:26 -0400 schrieb nick rundy:
> thanks Sigrid
> here's my enhancement request:  
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39080
> 
> > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:05:17 +0200
> > From: sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com
> > To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] merge Print Layout pages
> > 
> > Hi Nick, 
> > 
> > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:46:03 -0400
> > nick rundy  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > can you please provide the link to the bugzilla specific site that deals 
> > > with LibreOffice? I will create my own bug. Thanks
> > 
> > Sure, you'll find bugzilla here: 
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
> > 
> > You need to select LibreOffice as product. This bugzilla is shared between 
> > many different projects. 
> > 
> > HTH
> > Sigrid
> > 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] The future of design suggestions

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Kévin, Phil, all,

Kévin PEIGNOT schrieb:

Hi Bernard

Yes move it somewhere else, out of your own space. I already have an idea
about something to add

Thanks for this good job !

Kévin
Le 7 juil. 2011 23:43, "Phil Jackson"  a écrit :

Hi Bernhard

Let's go with your proposal about moving it out of your user page - we
need to do something quickly before we lose interest from any the
contributors.

Cheers

Phil Jackson


Moved the page to the Design area:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/UI_Elements

and added the Design category.

Please play with the page, add your ideas, categorize and sort them, so 
we can discuss the next steps based on some examples.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-design] reply to existing threads when subscribed late (was: Consistent theme ...)

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Florian, all,

just recently I discovered how to avoid new threads when you want to 
reply to an existing mail without having subscribed before:


Florian Reisinger schrieb:

Sorry for starting a new thread, but I could not reply to the last mail,
because I signed up later...
[...]


You'll have to follow three steps:


1) Find out the message number of the mail you want to reply to.

The most easy way is to have a look at the headers:

You mail, Florian, contains this Return-Path:


The number in this path is the mail number.


2) Send a single mail request to the mailserver.

This is easily to be done by sending an empty mail to


(for your mail it would be design+get-2...@global.libreoffice.org )

3) Reply to the mail you receive (which should be the original mail).

As reply to the original message your reply will be positioned in the 
thread at the right place.


I don't know if this works even without being subscribed (in my eyes it 
should work nevertheless), but for subscribed people it works.


If this might be helpful for others too, it could be added to the wiki 
and written in a way applicable to all the LibreOffice lists.


Therefore I CC'd the website list (should be the right place for 
follow-ups) - perhaps someone is interested in doing this...


Best regards

Bernhard



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Re: [libreoffice-design] [Vote] Consistent theme for screenshots

[Christoph Noack]

Hi Bernhard,

thanks for managing this ...

Am Freitag, den 08.07.2011, 01:23 +0200 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
[...]
> It is based on the Clearlooks theme (on GNOME, ports to KDE and Windows 
> XP available too) with a definite font with weight and size (Liberation 
> bold 11 pt for window titles) and adds a LibreOffice palette color 
> (Libre Green 2) for highlighted areas like windows headers.
> 
> If you want to establish a recommendation to use this modified theme for 
> screenshots, please add "+1" here:

+1

Note: I still think that LibreOffice Green 1 would be more pleasing to
the eye in the long run, but Green 2 is okay as well.


> Others want to propose a broad variety of different themes on 
> screenshots in order to show the diversity of LibreOffice and it's 
> possibility to be installed on different platforms in the documentation 
> screenshots.
> 
> They fear that new contributors might turn away when they find out, that 
> there is a recommendation how to create screenshots for documentation 
> and marketing.
> 
> If you prefer a way without caring about recommendations, just creating 
> the screenshots you like, please add your "+1" here:

-1

Note: Guidelines help, even if there are sometimes reasons to not
enforce them (e.g. for the new features section, if only a "quickly
made" screenshot by a developer is available and we lack time to re-do
it.)

By the way, the question itself is a bit hard to understand - so please
guys be aware that
"-1 = recommendation is good", and
"+1 = no recommendation wanted".

> A second question has been raised by Marc inside the thread:
> He asked for a unified cursor style to be included in thee package.
> 
> His proposal: Use a standardized cursor theme like "OpenZone white" for 
> the screenshots and include this cursor in the theme for the colors.
> 
> If you agree with him on the cursor/pointers, please sign here for a 
> second time with "+1":

-1

Changing cursor themes is an additional step and usually not required
when taking screenshots (assuming that the cursor doesn't vary too much
between the operating systems). But, if somebody adds this as an
optional recommendation and provides a package for that - why not use
it?

> On the other hand I think that most platforms provide similar pointers 
> and cursors, so this part doesn't need to be included in this voting. 
> I'd propose a more inclusive wiki page including a recommendation to use 
> a consistent cursor. "-1"

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-design] [Vote] Consistent theme for screenshots

[David Nelson]

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Bernhard Dippold
 wrote:
> If you want to establish a recommendation to use this modified theme for
> screenshots, please add "+1" here:

-1

> If you prefer a way without caring about recommendations, just creating the
> screenshots you like, please add your "+1" here:

+1
The English docs team can use the existing recommendations in the
Contributors' Guide.

> A second question has been raised by Marc inside the thread:
> He asked for a unified cursor style to be included in thee package.
>
> His proposal: Use a standardized cursor theme like "OpenZone white" for the
> screenshots and include this cursor in the theme for the colors.
>
> If you agree with him on the cursor/pointers, please sign here for a second
> time with "+1":

-1

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [Vote] Consistent theme for screenshots

[Florian Reisinger]

Sorry for starting a new thread, but I could not reply to the last mail, 
because I signed up later...


Hi Bernhard: thanks for doing this.


 >Le 2011-07-07 20:02, planas a écrit :

   On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 01:23 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote:


   Hi all,

   there have been lots of mail in this thread [1] about the advantages and
   disadvantaged of a recommendation for a consistent theme for screenshots
   covering documentation screenshots as well as marketing screenshots.

   During the discussion several people agreed on a proposal by Jean
   compromising between readability on greylevel printing and branding
   language compliance in colored online doc versions or marketing material.

   It is based on the Clearlooks theme (on GNOME, ports to KDE and Windows
   XP available too) with a definite font with weight and size (Liberation
   bold 11 pt for window titles) and adds a LibreOffice palette color
   (Libre Green 2) for highlighted areas like windows headers.

   If you want to establish a recommendation to use this modified theme for
   screenshots, please add "+1" here:


+1


My favourite +1

   Others want to propose a broad variety of different themes on
   screenshots in order to show the diversity of LibreOffice and it's
   possibility to be installed on different platforms in the documentation
   screenshots.

   They fear that new contributors might turn away when they find out, that
   there is a recommendation how to create screenshots for documentation
   and marketing.

   If you prefer a way without caring about recommendations, just creating
   the screenshots you like, please add your "+1" here:

+ 1 (best to use the system defaults for both LO and the OS)


   A second question has been raised by Marc inside the thread:
   He asked for a unified cursor style to be included in thee package.

   His proposal: Use a standardized cursor theme like "OpenZone white" for
   the screenshots and include this cursor in the theme for the colors.

   If you agree with him on the cursor/pointers, please sign here for a
   second time with "+1":

+1 (although it wasn't really discussed with feedback and meant as 

aproposal)

-1

 -1 (prefer system defaults)


 


   On the other hand I think that most platforms provide similar pointers
   and cursors, so this part doesn't need to be included in this voting.
   I'd propose a more inclusive wiki page including a recommendation to use
   a consistent cursor. "-1"

   So you have two votes - I hope you understand what I mean...

   Best regards

   Bernhard




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