Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread Andrew Pullins
where whould the money go??? I mean we all do this for free. who gets paid
or what would the money go to. its somthing that I have wondered about
donating to open source projects. id be glad to donate to some of them but
there are so many people working on this thing, where would it go. I do not
know.

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[libreoffice-design] Opinions on new icons for the Start Center?

2011-12-10 Thread alexander.wilms

Hi guys,

I made some new icons for the Start Center so that we can replace the 'legacy' 
ones:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Alexander_Wilms#Stuff

What do you think? @Steffan: I think placing the jigsaw piece inside the 
document logo makes the icon look to busy.

Alex

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[libreoffice-design] Mobile icons

2011-12-10 Thread Andrew Pullins
Hello peoples

I just created a white board for LibreOffce
Mobile[1]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Mobile_icons.
 I modeled them to look like iOS icons seance im pretty sure that on iOS
your app needs to look like all other icons, square with rounded edges. for
android we can have any icon we want so I left it up to the people to
diside if we want to keep our current icons for android or use icons like
what I have made.

tell me what you think.
Andrew

[1]
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Mobile_icons

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[libreoffice-design] Re: Mobile icons

2011-12-10 Thread Andrew Pullins
Oh I forgot

each of the icons in the SVG section are separate links, and I do not know
why they look like they do one the wiki page

cheers.
andrew

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Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread Camille Moulin
Hi All,

About the radical change of the UI toward a more efficient toolkit, you
might be interested in reading Michael Meeks' presentation for
OOocon2008  Layout: towards a pretty UI
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/friday_1470.pdf
I don't know if the technical side is still relevant, but the approach
still stands IMHO.

Camille

On 09/12/2011 05:11, Andrew Pullins wrote:
 sean


  I know that the main UI devs are against sudden change to the UI, but
 there are somethings like this idea of
 changing toolkits for at least the gui side of things that DO need to be 
 discussed
 sooner rather than later and it would certainly be easier to test new ui
 features and ideas by writing them straight into the new UI rather than
 have them in the old one.

 why is a sudden UI change a bad thing. I know that we can not
 just implement Citrus in one release but if we could why would it be such a
 bad thing to do. was M$ Office changing there UI to their new ribbon UI
 that big a deal. people are going to have to get used to it one way or
 another. whether they get it one peace at a timetechnical side  like most 
 FOSS people
 will, we just change it on them all at once, or if they change from M$O to
 LO. again not to say that we could, would or should do this. we just need
 to get away from the 16 year or so old UI and make something new.

 and besides its not like the Citrus UI is all that different from the
 current one. it is very intuitive, just a little different. I mean what
 could possibly be under the page menu... could it be things related to
 page... the only thing that you need to get used to is the changing of the
 UI. but once you relies that there is no longer any text options because
 you have selected an image, and if you where to go back to a area in which
 you can start typing they come back, it should all make seance.

 and if you think that is strange and you have a M$ Office just go into word
 and make a table. you will see a table tools, with new design and lay out
 suddenly appear. they released that there are some tools that you do not
 need all the time, and should only appear when you do.



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Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread Rushir Parikh
Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2 releases 
you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it, it is never 
going to happen.

On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Camille Moulin camille.mou...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 About the radical change of the UI toward a more efficient toolkit, you
 might be interested in reading Michael Meeks' presentation for
 OOocon2008  Layout: towards a pretty UI
 http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/friday_1470.pdf
 I don't know if the technical side is still relevant, but the approach
 still stands IMHO.
 
 Camille
 
 On 09/12/2011 05:11, Andrew Pullins wrote:
 sean
 
 
 I know that the main UI devs are against sudden change to the UI, but
 there are somethings like this idea of
 changing toolkits for at least the gui side of things that DO need to be 
 discussed
 sooner rather than later and it would certainly be easier to test new ui
 features and ideas by writing them straight into the new UI rather than
 have them in the old one.
 
 why is a sudden UI change a bad thing. I know that we can not
 just implement Citrus in one release but if we could why would it be such a
 bad thing to do. was M$ Office changing there UI to their new ribbon UI
 that big a deal. people are going to have to get used to it one way or
 another. whether they get it one peace at a timetechnical side  like most 
 FOSS people
 will, we just change it on them all at once, or if they change from M$O to
 LO. again not to say that we could, would or should do this. we just need
 to get away from the 16 year or so old UI and make something new.
 
 and besides its not like the Citrus UI is all that different from the
 current one. it is very intuitive, just a little different. I mean what
 could possibly be under the page menu... could it be things related to
 page... the only thing that you need to get used to is the changing of the
 UI. but once you relies that there is no longer any text options because
 you have selected an image, and if you where to go back to a area in which
 you can start typing they come back, it should all make seance.
 
 and if you think that is strange and you have a M$ Office just go into word
 and make a table. you will see a table tools, with new design and lay out
 suddenly appear. they released that there are some tools that you do not
 need all the time, and should only appear when you do.
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use

2011-12-10 Thread Rushir Parikh
Nicely done :P
~Rushir


On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Erich Christian erich_...@irq.at wrote:

 Hi guys,

 hope I may just forward an embarrassing topic which is not a huge
 challenge but would probably do a good job   :-) pls pick it up.

 TIA !

 cheers
 Erich

  Original-Nachricht 
 Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use
 Datum: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:44:15 +
 Von: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com
 An: disc...@documentfoundation.org

 Hi Peter,

 On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 17:08 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
  I've been trying unsuccessfully to find a source of buttons to add to my
  web pages. Any thought/pointers anyone?

Are you looking for a I support LibreOffice type button that you
 can
 link to us with ? :-) if so, I'm not sure we have one.

All the best,

Michael.
 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread August Sodora
 Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2 
 releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it, 
 it is never going to happen.

Do you think you could even completely spec the Citrus UI in 2 release
cycles? Because again, NOTHING will be implemented without specs.

August Sodora
aug...@gmail.com
(201) 280-8138



On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rushir Parikh rush...@gmail.com wrote:
 Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2 
 releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it, 
 it is never going to happen.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread Rushir Parikh
What do you mean by spec? (I'm 14 :P, I just know design not terms)
~Rushir


On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:56 PM, August Sodora aug...@gmail.com wrote:

  Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2
 releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it,
 it is never going to happen.

 Do you think you could even completely spec the Citrus UI in 2 release
 cycles? Because again, NOTHING will be implemented without specs.

 August Sodora
 aug...@gmail.com
 (201) 280-8138



 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rushir Parikh rush...@gmail.com wrote:
  Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2
 releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it,
 it is never going to happen.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use

2011-12-10 Thread Erich Christian
well... ;-)  thx 4 grace, it's almost christmas :P
took the risk preferably to coming up with a gross proposal  :-D
cheers
Erich

Am 10.12.2011 20:52, schrieb Rushir Parikh:
 Nicely done :P
 ~Rushir
 
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Erich Christian erich_...@irq.at wrote:
 
 Hi guys,

 hope I may just forward an embarrassing topic which is not a huge
 challenge but would probably do a good job   :-) pls pick it up.

 TIA !

 cheers
 Erich

  Original-Nachricht 
 Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use
 Datum: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:44:15 +
 Von: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com
 An: disc...@documentfoundation.org

 Hi Peter,

 On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 17:08 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 I've been trying unsuccessfully to find a source of buttons to add to my
 web pages. Any thought/pointers anyone?

Are you looking for a I support LibreOffice type button that you
 can
 link to us with ? :-) if so, I'm not sure we have one.

All the best,

Michael.
 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
here are some examples of specs (I think) for two parts of ubuntu :

notification system : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD

Other ubuntu examples : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategorySpec

I hope it can help.

Then, I think we should find other specs examples (gnome, kde, firefox ?)

Maybe then do a sort of spec template ?

I wish I had the time to write one about a Citrus UI part that I would love
to see implemented.

Kévin

2011/12/10 Rushir Parikh rush...@gmail.com

 What do you mean by spec? (I'm 14 :P, I just know design not terms)
 ~Rushir


 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:56 PM, August Sodora aug...@gmail.com wrote:

   Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2
  releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about
 it,
  it is never going to happen.
 
  Do you think you could even completely spec the Citrus UI in 2 release
  cycles? Because again, NOTHING will be implemented without specs.
 
  August Sodora
  aug...@gmail.com
  (201) 280-8138
 
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rushir Parikh rush...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2
  releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about
 it,
  it is never going to happen.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-design] All at once?

2011-12-10 Thread August Sodora
No problem. By spec I mean specification, that is a at least a
wireframe and behavioral description of some component. The page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards contains links
to a bunch, some more complete than others. The idea is that as
specifications are created, developers will implement them and we can
iteratively work to approach some desired future.

August Sodora
aug...@gmail.com
(201) 280-8138



On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Rushir Parikh rush...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do you mean by spec? (I'm 14 :P, I just know design not terms)
 ~Rushir


 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:56 PM, August Sodora aug...@gmail.com wrote:

  Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2
 releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it,
 it is never going to happen.

 Do you think you could even completely spec the Citrus UI in 2 release
 cycles? Because again, NOTHING will be implemented without specs.

 August Sodora
 aug...@gmail.com
 (201) 280-8138



 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rushir Parikh rush...@gmail.com wrote:
  Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2
 releases you can release a beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it,
 it is never going to happen.

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[libreoffice-design] New icon set

2011-12-10 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone,
I want to talk about making a new icon set, if people here are up for it.
The icon set would be much simpler than the current one, all icons
utilizing only two colors. I'm bringing up the idea because I'd like to
modernize the icon set.
Here's the whiteboard:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set .
Tell me if you'd be interested in working on this. If so, we'll need to
decide on how to proceed, what format to use, what resolutions to develop,
how we could automate converstion of colors to get a light version of the
set and high-contrast versions, etc.

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