[libreoffice-design] Re: Change The Main Program's Window
Hi Astron, this is another variant: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3931846/capture_001_23042012_122705.png The file backing_left.png is into archive. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3931846/backing_left.7z backing_left.7z -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Change-The-Main-Program-s-Window-tp3891169p3931846.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Tango Icons
Hi Stefan, On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 10:40 +0200, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: I figured out that the folder icons in our Tango theme are greyish while the ones from the official Tango project are blue. That's a misconception. Tango is an icon style, not an icon set. The official set is a bit of a proof of concept, with extra-liberal licensing applied so everyone can use it. Other Tango sets include for instance, the Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 icon sets, as well as sets like Tangerine etc. Oh ok... than the grey folders are OK to me... the only problem is when one wants to add a new folder type within that theme. It's worth noting that the official set, much like the set we inherited from Ooo, is currently unmaintained. Not really good news... Nevertheless, the grey (Tango, indeed) icons we currently ship look a bit drab. So, yes, do go ahead and replace them. I had (together with Alexander Wilms) a stab at our folder icons some time earlier (you can see that work in the start center and the toolbar Open icon), but I guess the icon just always turned out far too dark. In any case, I wouldn't mind seeing it replaced by the superior official set. Well, I'm not really an artist, I'ld love to leave that rework to someone else for choosing the right icon set to use then. FYI I added some icon with that commit for the file picker: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=9d499f5f9edd01cf5c4dbb2bc7625b3c5d10757a -- Cedric -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)
Hi Mirek, Astron, all, On 2012-04-20 at 09:16 +0200, Mirek M. wrote: I agree that the rulers should look better. Kendy -- would it be possible to change the look of the rulers? First of all - thank you for lots of good ideas. I am now going through them, to sort what is easy, and what is harder, but immediately I can answer, that changing any particular widget is +-easy. What makes the task of changing the entire chrome hard is that there is so many widget types - push buttons with many states (normal, pressed, hover, default), scrollbars (hover, pressed button, dragging the scroller), etc. etc. So - if you can propose a better looking ruler, that would be great, just please so far keep in mind that it should play well with the default Windows theme :-) - other than that, let's go for changing that! If you can create a proposal that would be applied to a screenshot of Writer, that would help a lot. Looking forward to this, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [RFC] tweaked b/w TDF logo for letterheads, stamps etc.
klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Am 21.04.2012 13:24, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hello Thorsten, mostly, I thought it looked good. I've edited it a tiny bit, to make the logo as large as the text and also trying to enforce the 1/2 width of a document symbol distance everywhere. I've added a variant (the bottom one) that should work without the Vegur font being installed (i.e. letters as paths)... that's it. Accidentally, I also replaced your file in the wiki... sorry. I took Astron's (and Thorsten's) proposal and align it to get a rectangle (like a stamp is). Then I made a half space between 10 and 117 to make it in typography. Thanks guys, looks great - I'd go with k-j's version then, but w/o the half space I guess. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] [RFC] tweaked b/w TDF logo for letterheads, stamps etc.
Hi Thorsten, Am 23.04.2012 11:45, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Am 21.04.2012 13:24, schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): Hello Thorsten, mostly, I thought it looked good. I've edited it a tiny bit, to make the logo as large as the text and also trying to enforce the 1/2 width of a document symbol distance everywhere. I've added a variant (the bottom one) that should work without the Vegur font being installed (i.e. letters as paths)... that's it. Accidentally, I also replaced your file in the wiki... sorry. I took Astron's (and Thorsten's) proposal and align it to get a rectangle (like a stamp is). Then I made a half space between 10 and 117 to make it in typography. Thanks guys, looks great You made the most of the work. - I'd go with k-j's version then, but w/o the half space I guess. No problem. I only followed the typographic for thousands seperator: e.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leerzeichen#Breite_des_Leerzeichens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_space -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)
Le 19/04/2012 14:17, Mirek M. a écrit : To be honest, I don't think a background image wound necessarily make our suite prettier. I'd prefer if the background stayed a solid color -- there's beauty in simplicity. +1 with an editable background color (some pale color by default). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)
Le 19/04/2012 17:01, Stefan Knorr (Astron) a écrit : To me, the idea seems sensible, but just as Mirek said, just adding a document background doesn't make the application that much prettier. +1 What is indeed quick to fix is the document background. Applying the same sickly hue of blue that the toolbar backgrounds currently use, looks actually quite okay. Try setting the document background to RGB(221,227,243), for instance. Why not. [1] A list of stuff we can probably remove from the standard toolbar: * Send as email (do people use that? for me, it doesn't play a role, because I usually want to check that I've done everything looks okay in an exported document.) yes * Print preview (I don't think that many people use it, ) hu? Live it alone, please. I do it all the time and know plenty of people using that icon. IMO, it can be removed if and only if a standard keyboard shortcut is assigned to the File/Print preview menu entry. * AutoSpellcheck (the only people who I've seen turn that off are people that are presenting stuff on OHP, but use a text document for that purpose; another use case would be making screenshots of eg diagrammes that you could add to another document later – we should encourage neither use case) * Format Paintbrush (counters our goal to encourage using styles) Oh yesss! * Add Hyperlink (is usually added automatically) dunno. Perhaps people creating errr... web pages... using Writer? * Gallery (completely useless right now) Yes. BTW, the Tools/Gallery menu should be Display/Gallery. * Non-printing characters (users set that once, never use it again) Mmmm... Remember that non-printing chars will govern the page borders appearance in 3.6.x (Cedric has reintroduced the former page borders that 3.5.x had lost). Thus, having a direct switch will be convenient, I think. * Data sources (probably used rather seldomly) Yes. Data sources are used by people with some knowledge, so pressing F4 is probably a no-brainer for them. * Help (?? there's a menu for that ) Yes. F1 is the way to go, anyway. [2] I still much prefer removing the status bar over removing the rulers. No, don't remove them as both are usefull. The rulers because you can see the current settings (I discourage using them to actually set parameters as this can be quite approximative). The status bar because it displays the... hem... document status. And, perhaps, can be used (double-click) for a quick access to some parameters. I'd add to the list: * Drawing tools First, there's a Display/Toolbars/Drawing that does that. Second, the question is: do people often use the drawing tools in Writer? IMO, they should be directed to the Draw module. * Styles and formatting (1) People using styles know what they are doing and have heard about F11, and (2) they usually set this once and for all. * Increase/Decrease paragraph margins Use styles instead :) I know of no-one who use these. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Change The Main Program's Window
Hello, I do not see the point in changing the icons for the startup application, you have not done anything but take away the documents in the icons. why are you working on this? what are you trying to fix or change about this? Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Change The Main Program's Window
Hello, Andrew 1. The file backing_left.png includes the post address TDF (under the logo). This is important in the image. You can see a picture of classical themes, which is excluded from LibreOffice. So I did not publish the rest of the image from folders images_classic.zip\res\..; images_classic.zip\framework\res\... But I use this updated theme (icons Galaxy_16*16 have been replaced by Classic) only and sometimes distracted in the Tango. 2. Reasons: - The Classic theme of the lightest (1.8 MB uncompressed archive). - The theme is very suitable for users who are accustomed to Microsoft_Office. But this is the most difficult theme, because it uses indexed colors and large icons the size of 26*26. 3. I do not want to change anything now, because there is only alpha_3.5;3.6 of the classic theme. --- ape -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Change-The-Main-Program-s-Window-tp3891169p3934403.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
