Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Remote Icon
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: Thanks for the SVG by the way, I was about to create a store promo banner for the app. Oh lovely - once this is final, can you point me to it please? Would it be possible to get some final icon until next Sunday, so we can ship that with the update to LibO 4.0.1 (which will have vastly more users being able to actually use the remote)? Thanks, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Libre Graphics Meeting?
Italo Vignoli wrote: I think it is an excellent idea. Do not forget to ask for travel funds on board discuss, in order to allow the BoD to approve the amount. What Italo says. If you want to go, please hurry up, research your travel options, and tell the board (hint: we have board meeting tomorrow). :) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Libre Graphics Meeting?
Le mardi 19 février 2013 à 18:24 +0100, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : Italo Vignoli wrote: I think it is an excellent idea. Do not forget to ask for travel funds on board discuss, in order to allow the BoD to approve the amount. What Italo says. If you want to go, please hurry up, research your travel options, and tell the board (hint: we have board meeting tomorrow). :) Make sure you check typocamp.fr as well, it's in June. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Libre Graphics Meeting?
Le 2013-02-13 18:41, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi everyone, In a personal e-mail, Dave Crossland, who offered to help us with font repository integration, asked whether we'd have any representation at the Libre Graphics Meeting in Madrid. The deadline for submitting a proposal for a talk is tomorrow. I would very much be interested in giving a talk on what LibreOffice is doing, but perhaps there are others interested as well (in which case please speak up). Is it alright if I propose a talk? Is there a website? I would like to add it to the events calendar. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
Hello world, So on last Saturday's meeting we've decided to revive the flat icons by expanding on GNOME symbolic icon set to include LibreOffice icons. This would be way faster than starting from scratch and would help us gain a unified look on GNOME and a clean modern look on other platforms :) Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png (As of now these icons won't be replacing anything, they will merely be an available alternative.) ___ Regards, Issa Alkurtass Motah Program, KACST Warning: This message and its attachment, if any, are confidential and may contain information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message and its attachment, if any. You should not copy the message and its attachment, if any, or disclose its contents to any other person or use it for any purpose. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail and its attachment, if any, are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of King Abdulaziz city for Science and Technology (KACST) in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. KACST accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email. ?: ??? ??? ??? ? ?? ?? (?? ) ? ?? ? ??? ??? ? ? ???. ??? ?? ??? ? ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ? ??? ? (?? )? ??? ?? ??? ?? ? ??? ??? ?? (?? ) ?? ?? ??? ? ?? ? ?? ? ?? ? ??? ???. ? ??? ??? ??? ? (?? ) ?? ??? ??? ??? ? ? ? ?? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??? ??. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
2013/2/19 Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa Hello world, So on last Saturday's meeting we've decided to revive the flat icons by expanding on GNOME symbolic icon set to include LibreOffice icons. This would be way faster than starting from scratch and would help us gain a unified look on GNOME and a clean modern look on other platforms :) Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png (As of now these icons won't be replacing anything, they will merely be an available alternative.) Niiccee!!! :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre www.escuelaslibres.org.ar --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
Must say I love that, even if I liked symbolic colors too, as Mirek proposed some times ago (blue for text related ones, green for images related etc etc). Anyway, I think these icons can really be great, and after having a complete set and doing some user testing, maybe we should set them as future defaults ones. Le mar. 19 févr. 2013 19:49:27 CET, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit : 2013/2/19 Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa Hello world, So on last Saturday's meeting we've decided to revive the flat icons by expanding on GNOME symbolic icon set to include LibreOffice icons. This would be way faster than starting from scratch and would help us gain a unified look on GNOME and a clean modern look on other platforms :) Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png (As of now these icons won't be replacing anything, they will merely be an available alternative.) Niiccee!!! :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre www.escuelaslibres.org.ar --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
I must say these icons will make LO look a lot more elegant! Great! On 2013-02-19 19:51, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Must say I love that, even if I liked symbolic colors too, as Mirek proposed some times ago (blue for text related ones, green for images related etc etc). Anyway, I think these icons can really be great, and after having a complete set and doing some user testing, maybe we should set them as future defaults ones. Le mar. 19 févr. 2013 19:49:27 CET, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit : 2013/2/19 Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa Hello world, So on last Saturday's meeting we've decided to revive the flat icons by expanding on GNOME symbolic icon set to include LibreOffice icons. This would be way faster than starting from scratch and would help us gain a unified look on GNOME and a clean modern look on other platforms :) Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png (As of now these icons won't be replacing anything, they will merely be an available alternative.) Niiccee!!! :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre www.escuelaslibres.org.ar --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
Le 19/02/2013 19:46, Issa Alkurtass a écrit : Hello world, So on last Saturday's meeting we've decided to revive the flat icons by expanding on GNOME symbolic icon set to include LibreOffice icons. This would be way faster than starting from scratch and would help us gain a unified look on GNOME and a clean modern look on other platforms :) Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png Great! They are absolutely great. Both sets. Elegant and simple (this implies that). Very easy to read. Keep on the good job, Issa! PS: I'd have smthg else than a drawer as the Save icon, but well... -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sawrote: Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png ++ They look better then the current ones but the LO UI feels still cluttered with so many icons displayed. Areas of concern: * Icon shape starts at different highshttp://ubuntuone.com/70gT9RcCdaGO2GIcHYsxjn(the printer button is higher then the new-file button...) * Icon lines are too thick and make them look a bit blurry * The icons are a bit too round for my taste * The UI of the drowdown menu feels out of place (all those thin lines) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
Looks absolutely fantastic! -Emir 19 Şub 2013 tarihinde 22:06 saatinde, Thibaut Brandscheid şunları yazdı: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sawrote: Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png ++ They look better then the current ones but the LO UI feels still cluttered with so many icons displayed. Areas of concern: * Icon shape starts at different highshttp://ubuntuone.com/70gT9RcCdaGO2GIcHYsxjn(the printer button is higher then the new-file button...) * Icon lines are too thick and make them look a bit blurry * The icons are a bit too round for my taste * The UI of the drowdown menu feels out of place (all those thin lines) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
Hi All I (finally) found the proposal by Mirek for Color coded icons (included in the fabulous Citrus UI proposals) : http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/color-codes/ I would like to know what people think of this idea. As I already sayed long time ago, I personnaly think this adition could help find the icon/fonction users are searching more easily. Anyway, If some people think the idea is good, we could complete the flat icon set (maybe reusing some of the faenza icons), then make user testing with this color coded option. Kévin Le mar. 19 févr. 2013 21:36:52 CET, Emir Yâsin SARI a écrit : Looks absolutely fantastic! -Emir 19 Şub 2013 tarihinde 22:06 saatinde, Thibaut Brandscheid şunları yazdı: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sawrote: Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed together the buttons for the main toolbar https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test.png Since we don't necessarily want to go monochrome we can have our own colored version of them as well https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Symbolic-test-colored.png ++ They look better then the current ones but the LO UI feels still cluttered with so many icons displayed. Areas of concern: * Icon shape starts at different highshttp://ubuntuone.com/70gT9RcCdaGO2GIcHYsxjn(the printer button is higher then the new-file button...) * Icon lines are too thick and make them look a bit blurry * The icons are a bit too round for my taste * The UI of the drowdown menu feels out of place (all those thin lines) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Libre Graphics Meeting?
Hi Thorsten, On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Italo Vignoli wrote: I think it is an excellent idea. Do not forget to ask for travel funds on board discuss, in order to allow the BoD to approve the amount. What Italo says. If you want to go, please hurry up, research your travel options, and tell the board (hint: we have board meeting tomorrow). :) I'm still waiting to hear whether the LGM accepted my talk, in which case they would fund my trip. I should know that by the 25th. In case they don't, I would still love to go, but I don't know if TDF would be willing to pay for the expenses. The cost would be about 6000 CZK, which is about 237 EUR. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat/Symbolic Icons Update
Hi Axel, Emir Yâsin, All, You're right, having the possibility to contrast the icons is a good think. What we could do, keeping the color coded style, is having basic color as the same warm grey for each icon, and the importants elements of the icon colored. Exemple : take the proposal of landscape/portrait mode here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set#Landscape_Mode.2C_Portrait_Mode. Having the old orientaion in grey, and the new colored (following Mirek colors, it would be old page grey, new page blue (colors idea here http://clickortap.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/color.png). I will make an exemple this evening, there I'm at the office and can't design anything. But with all the icons being in svg, it should be really easy to do this (change/add colors). Then for the organisation. At the beginning of the flat icon set proposal, it worked like this : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set#Design_process. I think it was quite a good organisation, except we should add that skipping an icon and returning later should be considered as really exceptionnal (or we will finis with hundreds of icons to return ...) Emir, I don't know at all how retina displays work, but for sure, as the icons are SVG, they are easily scalable, without being blured. Maybe it can be enough, this is something to test. Kévin 2013/2/20 Emir Yâsin SARI bitig...@me.com Thanks Alex. Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention: New icons should also be Retina Display compatible. It would cause quite a frustration if new icons looked blurry on new Mac displays. Just a reminder. Apple provides optimization guides on these links: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/GraphicsAnimation/Conceptual/HighResolutionOSX/Optimizing/Optimizing.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012302-CH7-SW1 http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/userexperience/conceptual/applehiguidelines/IconsImages/IconsImages.html But I think these are already scalable, so if someone with a Retina display could test it, that'd be great. And Issa, thanks again for the great mock-ups. Best regards, Emir 20 Şub 2013 tarihinde 03:12 saatinde, Axel şunları yazdı: Issa, nice work. My first choice goes to the colored version. As additional argument, I was knowing that our brain is built to recognize the colors faster than the symbols and then symbols faster than text. If all the symbols have the same color, you need to decipher the meaning of few symbols to pick the one you want. So, ++ for colors from me. You made the samples using the large version of icons and this is ok for now, but when creating the final icons, we must be sure they look very well at small size. Emir, I agree with all your areas of concern and I think we'll resolve these step by step. Kevin, it is a good idea to have color coded icons, but there is a catch: sometimes is better to create contrasts to highlight the significant element of an icon even if this requires to drop a rule you'd like to keep. For example, look at Spelling and Grammar / Auto Spellcheck icons. The only difference between them is that tiny underline. What if the first icon has the check mark gray? Maybe this is not the best example because here could be a better solution to differentiate, but the basic idea is this should be judged from case to case. From my point of view, if everyone agree we need a colored version, I think our next step is to select the colors we want to use. The ones used in this mockup look somehow sad for my taste. What do you think? When this step is done, we should discuss the symbols that we think could be improved or we agree they have problems. (How do you think is easier to track the discussions around each icon? Should we create a new thread for any icon we want to analyze/debate? Or maybe is better to work in wiki pages to see together the icons, their history and the related comments?) Axel On 19.02.2013 22:45, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Hi All I (finally) found the proposal by Mirek for Color coded icons (included in the fabulous Citrus UI proposals) : http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/color-codes/ I would like to know what people think of this idea. As I already sayed long time ago, I personnaly think this adition could help find the icon/fonction users are searching more easily. Anyway, If some people think the idea is good, we could complete the flat icon set (maybe reusing some of the faenza icons), then make user testing with this color coded option. Kévin Le mar. 19 févr. 2013 21:36:52 CET, Emir Yâsin SARI a écrit : Looks absolutely fantastic! -Emir 19 Şub 2013 tarihinde 22:06 saatinde, Thibaut Brandscheid şunları yazdı: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sawrote: Before we get any further with them I wanted to see what people thought of the idea so I mashed
Re: [libreoffice-design] Libre Graphics Meeting?
On 2/20/13 12:22 AM, Mirek M. wrote: I'm still waiting to hear whether the LGM accepted my talk, in which case they would fund my trip. I should know that by the 25th. In case they don't, I would still love to go, but I don't know if TDF would be willing to pay for the expenses. The cost would be about 6000 CZK, which is about 237 EUR. I do not see any problem in paying such an expense through SPI. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
