Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Jan Holesovsky]

Hi Mateusz,

Mateusz Zasuwik píše v Út 15. 10. 2013 v 13:28 +0200:

> >  Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it.  The only missing piece (and
> >> that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show
> >> in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup -
> >> can you please provide such a mockup too?
> >
> >
> > I asked him for new concept but now he is away so please be patient.
> 
> It is his work. What do you think?
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/KWpS7tu.jpg 

Looks good :-) - just I'd myself would prefer some kind of welcome
message or welcome graphics (without text is preferred, as that makes
that easier from translation point of view) that was mentioned elsewhere
in the thread, over a sterile 'No recent documents'.  Do you think your
friend could try something in that lines too?

Thanks so much,
Kendy


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Mateusz Zasuwik]

2013/10/15 Mateusz Zasuwik 

>  Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it.  The only missing piece (and
>> that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show
>> in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup -
>> can you please provide such a mockup too?
>
>
> I asked him for new concept but now he is away so please be patient.
>


It is his work. What do you think?

http://i.imgur.com/KWpS7tu.jpg 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Mateusz Zasuwik]

>
> Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it.  The only missing piece (and
> that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show
> in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup -
> can you please provide such a mockup too?


I asked him for new concept but now he is away so please be patient.

So what about with the easiest solution?

http://i.imgur.com/tt34Dg7.png

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[libreoffice-design] Re: Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Pedro]

Hi Kendy


Jan Holesovsky wrote
> Mateusz Zasuwik píše v Po 14. 10. 2013 v 23:01 +0200:
> 
>> I asked him for better mockup and he did this.
>> 
>> http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg

+1 on this design (the small icons are not user friendly)


Jan Holesovsky wrote
> The only missing piece (and
> that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show
> in case there are no recent documents

I agree that it could be a nice banner with a welcome message in the lines
of "Thank you for choosing LibreOffice. Please click on one of the document
types on the right to create a new document" (assuming the design by Mateusz
is accepted.

Best regards,
Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Michael Meeks]

On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 00:33 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Mateusz Zasuwik wrote (14-10-13 23:01)
> > Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is

I rather imagine this was done by a GSOC student based on a design
provided by the UX team :-) if the result is horrible, I'd want to know
how closely it matches the design provided. It is rather expensive
chopping and changing this stuff around continually - drawing some new
pixels takes a few minutes, re-writing, testing, validating,
translating, delivering the new code takes man weeks.

Anyhow - this IIRC was Kendy's baby, I'd CC him on any discussion (if
you can maintain that CC) :-)

ATB,

Michael.

> It is when empty. Therefore the request from Kendy for something else.
> 
> > here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I
> > showed him new LibreOffice, he ask "what is purpose of these small icons?"
> 
> Yep...
> 
> > Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and
> > intuitive!
> >
> > I asked him for better mockup and he did this.
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg
> 
> +1
> 
> And I think it's usefull too for a next step, the file menu!
> 
> Michael, something intersting?


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Jan Holesovsky]

Hi Mateusz,

Mateusz Zasuwik píše v Po 14. 10. 2013 v 23:01 +0200:

> I asked him for better mockup and he did this.
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg

Beautiful - thanks for this.  This is of course easily possible to do,
if the Design team consensus is that it should look this way.  The best
is if you change it yourself in glade, and provide us with the
resulting .ui file - try

glade share/config/soffice.cfg/sfx/ui/startcenter.ui

do the changes, and restart LibreOffice.  You should immediately see
that.

The next time please omit the pejorative parts of your mail - we have
provided the snapshots & merged it to master early exactly in order to
be able to have feedback in time before the feature freeze, so that we
still have time to make it perfect for 4.2 :-)

Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it.  The only missing piece (and
that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show
in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup -
can you please provide such a mockup too?

Thank you,
Kendy


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

[Jan Holesovsky]

Hi Mirek,

Mirek M. píše v Ne 13. 10. 2013 v 18:05 +0200:

> > Oh, when I noticed Kendy's mail I thought about something more like that:
> > https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/File:**Wallpaper-LibreOffice-2-**
> > 1600px.png
> >
> > A jpeg which can be changed by user like the personas so that even
> > companies can replace it with their logo or so.
> 
> 
> Given that this picture would appear only if no document has been opened, I
> don't see the use of allowing customization of the upfront graphic. (That
> would just encourage people NOT to open any documents -- that's not what we
> want.) I'd also like to avoid fancy graphics, as it'd be a stark difference
> to go from no recent files with a fancy graphic to a single thumbnail of a
> recent file and the rest of the window blank and, as per our minimalism
> principle, I'd like to keep our UI as simple as possible.
> 
> As I understand it, it's not a wallpaper Kendy's looking for, but rather an
> indicator that there are no recent files to display.
> 
> Care to confirm, Kendy?

Terribly sorry - best to keep me CC'd for quick turnaround :-)

I was more looking for a wallpaper (as K-J suggests) or the 'welcome
information' (as Cor said) - I think it gives better first time
experience than a 'no recent documents found'...

Sorry for not being clear in my request :-(

Thank you in advance,
Kendy


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