[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?
Hello Tom, Le 08/02/2014 21:59, Tom Davies a écrit : However, I'm a bit confused by the No Stylist, no Navigator, missing settings.. Do you mean those things are not open by default? They seem to be there for me after doing an install but just not open and ready to use. In my FR installs the Stylist and the Navigator are installed but not displayed. I know very few users who actually know these tools exist and what they are meant for, not telling about displaying or using them :( As for the default settings, I have been wondering since the very first times of OOo 1.1.1 why the French apostrophe is not setup (the setting is available) while the French quote is. As a consequence most French users use the wrong character and create faulty documents. The automatic setting would be s easy to add... Other lacking settings: display non-printing chars, activate the backup copy, prefer the richer LibO dialogs, adjust zoom settings. In Writer: add an Insert from file toolbutton, set the Table toolbar position non-floating. In Draw: add a Fontwork toolbutton (the Fontwork toolbar can't do what this button does; or did I miss smthg?) Optionally, some extensions can really help, like AltSearch. I'm not sure if someone from documentation is also working on the types of things you are writing. Even if they are there is a good chance they have stalled and might appreciate someone else taking over what they have done so far and that might help give you some other ideas or confirm some of the ones you had already. Well, what I'm writing is about FR installs, though some common denominator could be found between languages (Stylist and Navigator come to mind). -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Who on Earth is the LibO installation target?
On 08/02/2014 15:30, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Hi Jean-François, Very good repost indeed, and unfortunately true in my own experience of company wide implementations of LO in SMEs. The current marketing guff attempts to sell (and I use that word loosely) LO to businesses just by stating it is enterprise-ready. Unfortunately, this completely ignores the fact that most SMEs have no or little IT support contracts, and those that do use firms that are mostly clueless about configuring LO to work correctly in their IT environment. I have experienced this first hand with various different IT support firms (from local to national) in various companies over the past, notwithstanding the various enterprise environment LO/AOO specific bugs - e.g. reading and writing to network shares to name but one. As an example of how clueless some IT support departments can be about LO, I saw a post on the AOO list the other day representing an English borough council IT support entity that had attempted to send a 27 page audit document to the list in the vain hope that someone in charge would respond to the questions...OK, I would expect that from someone whose job is not to manage IT, but seriously, from the IT support entity itself (third party subcontractor by the looks of it). If the specialist IT support people don't know what IT is, how is anyone else in a SME on whom the job is thrust going to know ? (perhaps that particular situation also speaks volumes for how low market penetration and awareness of LO in public administration in the UK is, and certainly doesn't reflect very highly on the IT support firm). Anyway, to cut a long digression short, yes, I would agree that the project doesn't currently address the needs of SMEs or even administrations other than through the buy a support contract mantra, which is currently how the Board appear to see development and penetration of LO increasing and TDF with LO really establishing itself long term. Of course, as no doubt anyone from the marketing team reading this would say Please feel free to contribute materials to the project, the door is wide open. ;-) Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Icons for 'Zoom optimal'
I've closed the survey this morning, and here are the results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Lb85oCbN6BphO5Yq_C4PFxCXwiwgDtH-y0IaafrG3hA/viewanalytics Crystal: Adjust 15 83% I don't think that this icon fits with my other choices 3 17% Galaxy: Adjust 4 21% Zoom optimal 15 79% HiContrast: Adjust 5 26% Zoom optimal 14 74% Human: Adjust 13 68% Zoom optimal 6 32% Industrial: Adjust 13 72% Zoom optimal 5 28% Oxygen: Adjust 13 72% Zoom optimal 5 28% Sifr: Zoom optimal 14 78% I don't think that this icon fits with my other choices 4 22% Tango: Adjust 14 74% Zoom optimal 5 26% And changes done: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/4117/ Regards, Rodolfo 2014-01-13 13:46 GMT-02:00 rodolf...@gmail.com: Please, help to choose which of these existent icons for each theme should be kept to represent the command 'Zoom optimal' Zoom optimal means 'Zoom to fit in window'. Until recently, some LibreOffice modules used three different names for this same action, and used two different icons for that. Which one do you prefer to 'survive' for each icon theme? I've invited you to fill out the form Zoom optimal icons. To fill it out, visit: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Lb85oCbN6BphO5Yq_C4PFxCXwiwgDtH-y0IaafrG3hA/viewform -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation
Hello, first sorry for crossposting, but I want to reach as many project members as possible. The further discussion should take place at the website-list. The LibreOffice extensions website is currently running on Plone with an add-on called Plone Software Center. There were a discussion to renovate the extensions site some weeks ago. I started my work on new content types in the mean time. I created this new types in a new add-on for Plone that is based on Dexterity content types. This types are more future-proof because Dexterity creates smaller files, less overhead and will be the future of Plone. I created the following hierarchical structure of content types (current naming): * ExtCenter * ExtProject * ExtReleasesSection * ExtRelease * Downloadablefile The first four types are of the container class. The general configuration is done in the ExtCenter (e.g. LibreOffice versions, platforms etc.). Independent from the CMS, that we use for the reimplementation/renovation I would like to discuss with you the structure of the new extensions site, the fields that are displayed in the different pages (e.g. a project page, a release page, a downloadable file page) and the information (fields) we would like to fill in the contributors. I published already two screenshots of the new types on my blog (http://amantke.de/blog/2014/02/libreoffice-extensions-repository-draft-of-new-views-part-1/). They are pure Plone default layout. If we choose to go further with Plone a new layout will be added once the content add-on is finished. But I would like to discuss the structure of the new extensions site and the information (fields) - in the edit-form and in the public page of each content type on the website-list. My current work is only a first draft. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
