Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-24 Thread K-J LibreOffice

Am 23.07.2014 um 16:58 schrieb Mirek M.:

I agree that a forum is probably more fitting for design discussions
(especially if it allows attachments), provides more privacy (your e-mail
address isn't pubilc), and I have to admit I would've been more comfortable
with a forum when I first joined the mailing list.

That said, we shouldn't spread out our internal conversations over too many
channels, so if we agree to go with a forum, we'd need to let go of our
mailing list. We'd also need the Document Foundation to host our forum.

Would everybody here agree to move to a forum if TDF agreed to host it?


I don't think that we can easily change our workflow to a forum and 
leave the ml for the design project. It should be a general decision by 
the BoD because all projects should work in one way.
And I personally won't work in a forum because there is no profit for me 
against now. But many disadvantages:

- no sheduling AFAIK
- up to now you need an external Open ID which I don't want to use
- what about archiving and finding?
- How to get a message that something new is in there as long as I'm not 
directly involved?


IMHO we will get the biggiest advance by a redmine project. There we can 
ticketing, sheduling, archiving, linking, assigning, observing, etc.

I requested a design project in redmine as supposed [1] [2].

[1] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/571
[2] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06696.html

Give Redmine a try.


We
should discuss this on our IRC chat this week.


I'm not able to be within the IRC on sunday.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-24 Thread Pedro Rosmaninho
And why not both?

Get a forum for constant idea discussion, and for outside people to chip
in, give their opinion and even atract new blood and use redmine to
structure projects when these are decided to move forward.

And not wanting to use an external ID as a reason is a really poor one.
Don't you have accounts in any forum or message board besides this one?


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:22 PM, K-J LibreOffice 
wrote:

> Am 23.07.2014 um 16:58 schrieb Mirek M.:
>
>  I agree that a forum is probably more fitting for design discussions
>> (especially if it allows attachments), provides more privacy (your e-mail
>> address isn't pubilc), and I have to admit I would've been more
>> comfortable
>> with a forum when I first joined the mailing list.
>>
>> That said, we shouldn't spread out our internal conversations over too
>> many
>> channels, so if we agree to go with a forum, we'd need to let go of our
>> mailing list. We'd also need the Document Foundation to host our forum.
>>
>> Would everybody here agree to move to a forum if TDF agreed to host it?
>>
>
> I don't think that we can easily change our workflow to a forum and leave
> the ml for the design project. It should be a general decision by the BoD
> because all projects should work in one way.
> And I personally won't work in a forum because there is no profit for me
> against now. But many disadvantages:
> - no sheduling AFAIK
> - up to now you need an external Open ID which I don't want to use
> - what about archiving and finding?
> - How to get a message that something new is in there as long as I'm not
> directly involved?
>
> IMHO we will get the biggiest advance by a redmine project. There we can
> ticketing, sheduling, archiving, linking, assigning, observing, etc.
> I requested a design project in redmine as supposed [1] [2].
>
> [1] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/571
> [2] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06696.html
>
> Give Redmine a try.
>
>
>  We
>> should discuss this on our IRC chat this week.
>>
>
> I'm not able to be within the IRC on sunday.
>
> --
> Grüße
> k-j
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-24 Thread Dennis Roczek

/me just followed the discussion by accident.
I know that redmine has also the possibility to activate in the config 
per project a forum. I have no experience, but that would solve many 
"cons and problems" of k-j and many others to. There is also work 
ongoing to provide an Open-ID server by the TDF to get a single-sign-on 
on all services by the TDF :-)


So request a design project in redmine and request that the forum (at 
least fora test) gets activated. (just a technical note, I cannot 
provide any content regarding design!)





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